October 8, 9, & 10, 2005

[Russell Smith]

19:35:32 [thedog] Best Moments

19:35:55 [pamela] My best momento was Lillia’s awakening.

19:36:05 [azavala] thedog> SUS MEJORES MOMENTOS

19:36:21 [fernando] MI MOMENTO DE CENTRO MAGNETICO FUE ELDIA DE ANTIER AL ESTAR SENTADO EN LA COCINA DE LA CASA DE REPENTE EMPIEZO A OBSERVARME Y A OBSERVAR A MI ESPOSA QUE ESTABA DELANTE DE MI Y VER OBJETIVAMENTE MI MAQUINA Y VER LA MAQUINA DE MI ESPOSA Y PERSIBIR UNA SENSACION DE VALORIZACION DE ELLA DE LO QUE A SID

19:36:26 [azavala] pamela> MI MEJOR MOMENTO FUE EL DESPERTAR DE LILLIA.

19:36:46 [marianne] My BM was an insight about inner considering: when I still want the other person to change it is inner considering, when I am willing to change it is external considering

19:36:57 [jorge] Mi mejor momento de la semana fue el pasar un gran dìa con mi familia y trabajandocon mi ser.

19:37:23 [pamela] My second best momento was a deeper understanding of how Steward and then Master are in embryo and must be developed.

19:37:31 [marianne] Mi major momento fue una comprension a cerca de la consideracion interna: mientras todavia quiero que el otro cambia, es consideracion interna, si estoy disuesta a cambiar yo, es consideracion externa

19:37:38 [fernando] O CONMIGO EN LOS VEINTI SEIS AÑOS QUE EMOS ESTADO JUNTOS Y TODO LO QUE HA DADO POR MI

19:37:53 [juanpablo] mi mejor momento fue el jueves al comprovar que cuando el espacio esta lleno no hay lugar para la imaginacion y asi mismo esperimentar que tampoco hay cansancio de parte de la maquuina!

19:38:43 [azavala] pamela> MI SEGUNDO MEJOR MOMENTO FUE UNA PROFUNDA COMPRENSIÓN DE CÓMO EL MAYORDOMO Y DESPUÉS EL AMO ESTÁN EN EMBRIÓN Y DEBEN SER DESARROLLADOS.

19:38:59 claudia1 enters this room

19:39:13 [claudia1] buenas tardes a todos

19:39:36 [james] My best moments have been with Lillia and the new student Carol Ann. And also with seeing new higher possibilities in me… you have to see it before you can be it!!!

19:40:02 [marianne] fernando:sitting in the kitchen I suddenly started to observe myself and my wife and objectively seeing my machine and her machine and perceiving a sensation of appreciation for her and everything she has done for me and given me in the 26 years that we have been together

19:40:39 [thedog] fernando> That is beautiful.

19:40:41 [marianne] jorge: SPENDING THE DAY WITH MY FAMILY AND WORKING ON MY BEING

19:40:51 [claudia1] mi mejor momento fue darme cuenta que estuve considerando internamente, cuando crei poder hacer cambiar a alguien con mis comentarios

19:40:59 [azavala] james> MI MEJOR MOMENTO HA SIDO CON LILIA Y LA NUEVA ESTUDIANTE CAROL ANN. Y TAMBIÉN AL VER NUEVAS POSIBILIDADES EN MI….TÚ TIENES QUE VERLO ANTES DE QUE PUEDAS SERLO!!!

19:41:15 [azavala] thedog> fernando.- ESO ES HERMOSO.

19:41:19 [thedog] jorge> Bravo.

19:41:28 [fernando] quiero preguntar como se difencia cuando esta influyendo un yo y cuando esta influyendo el formatorio

19:41:31 [Verónica] Uno de mis mejores momentos fue el poder trabajar un evento que se me presentó el lunes en la tarde, en donde aplique algunos ejercicios que me permitieron transformar la emoción que se sucitó de este evento, y comprendí que lo único real que tengo es el Trabajo para Ser…

19:42:06 [marianne] JUANPABLO: VERIFYING THAT WHEN THE SPACE IS OCCUPIED THERE IS NO ROOM FOR IMAGINATION AND AT THE SAME TIME EXPERIENCING THAT THERE IS NO TIREDNESS IN THE MACHINE

19:42:32 [alejandra] Mi mejor momento fue es despertar de Lily! Fue un momento Maravilloso ver todos sus esfuerzos vueltos realidad.!!

19:43:13 [marianne] claudia1> REALIZING THAT I WAS CONSIDERING INTERNALLY, WHEN I THOUGHT THAT I COULD CHANGE SOMEONE THROUGH MY COMMENTS

19:43:53 enrique enters this room

19:44:10 [thedog] juanpablo> Fantastic. You see, it gets easier. It is only a question of efforts and sincere attempts.

19:44:12 [enrique] buenas tardes a todos

19:44:16 [claudia1] otro momento es que puedo darme cuenta con más facilidad que estoy expresando negatividad y puedo cambiarlo rapidamente, llevo mejor relación con mi familia

19:44:26 [marianne] fernando> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK HOW TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE WHETHER IT IS AN I INFLUENCING ME OR THE FORMATORY

19:44:43 [thedog] claudia1> A very good realization.

19:44:59 [azavala] thedog> juanpablo.- FANTÁSTICO. VES, SE HACE MÁS FÁCIL. ES SÓLO UNA CUESTIÓN DE ESFUERZOS E INTENTOS SINCEROS.

19:45:28 [azavala] thedog> claudia1.- UNA MUY BUENA COMPRENSIÓN.

19:45:32 [enrique] mi mejor momento fue que aunque tenga presiones de vida al recordar recordarme las presiones no se ven tan grandes, sino en su medida correspondiente

19:46:23 [marianne] BEING ABLE TO WORK AN EVENT THAT PRESENTED ITSELF ON MONDAY WHEN I DID SOME EXERCISED WHICH ALLOWED ME TO TRANSFORM THE EMOTION THAT WAS GENERATED BY EVENT AND REALIZING THE THE WORK ON BEING IS THE ONLY REAL THING I HAVE

19:46:38 [claudia1] hacer el primer choque conciente es: al recibir una impresión, respirar y recordarme?

19:47:17 [marianne] alejandra> SEEING THE AWAKENING OF LILY AND SEEING ALL HER EFFORTS TURNING INTO REALITY

19:47:26 [thedog] fernando> Try to see everyting with many definitations, that will keep it from being formatory and will weaken the influence, if it is from a false personality’s I.

19:48:16 [marianne] claudia1> IT IS EASIER TO SEE WHEN I AM EXPRESSING NEGATIVITY AND I CAN CHANGE IT RAPIDLY, I HAVE A MUCH BETTER RELATIONSHIP WITH MY FAMILY

19:49:12 [thedog] marianne> The mud is always on the shoes and not the foot.

19:49:35 [fernando] Alejandra te quero comentar que en el chat antewrior tu me diste una respuesta de que todo es bilogico y fue para mi una respuesta exelente pero lo que quiero decirte que el efecto que me proboco fue sanante gracias

19:49:35 mariana enters this room

19:49:56 [marianne] enrique> BM EVEN THOUGH I HAVE PRESSURE IN MY LIFE WHEN I REMEMBER TO REMEMBER MYSELF THE PRESSURES DO NOT LOOK SO BIG ANYMORE, BUT ARE IN THEIR CORRESPONDING MEASURE

19:50:17 [mariana] BUENAS TARDES A TODOS

19:50:38 [thedog] claudia1> You have a very valuable ability in being able to do that. Yee-Haw !

19:50:55 [marianne] claudia1> TO DO THE FIRST CONSCIOUS SHOCK MEANS THAT WHEN I RECEIVE AN IMPRESSION I BREATHE AND REMEMBER MYSELF?

19:51:09 [juanpablo] algo que no entiendo es que e esperimentado que algunas relaciones no son de probecho y e decidido alejarme ,ami casi ya no me fricciona pero ala otra persona si ¿ como trabajar en esos caso lo cual siempre es lo mismo ?¿no seria mejor alejarme ?

19:51:51 [azavala] thedog> fernando.- TRATA DE VER TODO CON MUCHAS PERSPECTIVAS, ESO TE EVITARÁ SER FORMATORIO Y DEBILITARÁ SU INFLUENCIA, SI ES QUE VIENE DE LA FALSA PERSONALIDAD DE UN YO.

19:52:32 [marianne] fernando> ALEJANDRA I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT THE ANSWER YOU GAVE ME IN LAST WEEKS CHAT THAT EVERYTHING IS BIOLOGICAL WAS AN EXCELLENT ANSWER AND THE EFFECT IT CREATED WAS HEALING. THANK YOU

19:52:52 [thedog] enrique> Magnifico. Two rules of life: 1. Don’t sweat the small stuff; 2. (and more important than rule 1) Everything is small stuff.

19:53:05 [azavala] thedog> marianne.- EL LODO SIEMPRE ESTA SOBRE LOS ZAPATOS Y NO EN LOS PIES.

19:53:39 [mariana] MI MEJOR MOMENTO FUE EL DIA DE HOY AL ESTAR EN EL GRUPO Y ESCUCHAR A UN ESTUDIANTE EL DAR SU MOMENTO DE CENTRO MAGNETICO,LA ENSEÑANSA FUE EL DE VERME REFLEJADA EN EL

19:54:23 [Verónica] Cómo entender lo que Nicoll en el tomo III en la pag. 28, dice: “El Destino es lo que deberíamos ser…. El Destino significa en realidad lo que fue ordenado primordialmente, nuestro propio y verdadero destino….”

19:54:24 [alejandra] fernando> De nada!! Es un Placer!! Gracias a Ti!!

19:54:50 [azavala] thedog> claudia1.- TIENES UNA MUY VALIOSA HABILIDAD AL SER CAPAZ DE HACER ESO.- YEE-HAW!

19:54:59 [marianne] juanpablo> SOMETHING I DO NOT UNDERSTAND: I HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT SOME RELATIONS ARE NOT USEFUL AND I HAVE DECIDED TO MOVE AWAY. FOR ME IT ALMOST DOES NOT CAUSE ANY FRICTION ANYMMORE BUT IN THE OTHER PERSON IT DOES. HOW SHOULD I WORK THIS? ISN’T IT BETTER TO STAY AWAY IF IT IS ALWAYS THE SAME?

19:55:53 [juanpablo] e notado que es cada vez mas dificil dejar de trabajar en mi !¿esto significa que las osilaciones son menores ?! y que llegara el tiempo que no osile mas ? y en consecuencia que el amo esta proximo ? o es pura imaginacion?

19:56:13 [claudia1] cuando nuestros hijos ya tienen la mayoría de edad y nosotros hemos explicado todas las consecuencias de algunos actos debemos dejarlos elegir o todavía es nuestra responsabilidad todavía que sigan por donde nosotros creemos que es el mejor camino?

19:57:00 [marianne] Verónica> HOW CAN I UNDERSTAND NICOLL IN BOOK 3, PAGE 28: DESTINY IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE… DESTINY REALYY MEANS WHAT HAS BEEN PRIMARILY ORDERED, OUR OWN AND TRUE DESTINY?

19:57:01 [azavala] thedog> enrique.- MAGNÍFICO. DOS REGLAS DE VIDA: 1.- NO SUFRAS POR LAS COSAS PEQUEÑAS; 2 (Y MÁS IMPORTANTE QUE LA REGLA No. 1).- TODAS LAS COSAS SON PEQUEÑAS.

19:58:01 [enrique] ESTOY APRENDIENDO A HACER VITRALES, Y HE EXPERIMENTADO QUE ES MUY LABORIOSO, Y EL RESULTADO PARECE MUY POCO SIN EMBARGO OBSERVANDO DETENIDAMENTE ME DOY CUENTA DE LOS ESFUERZOS, CON EL TRABAJO SOBRE MI MISMO ES IGUAL,EL QUE QUIERA MEDIR LOS RESULTADOS ES UNA PREGUNTA DE LA MAQUINA, si es—–

19:58:08 [thedog] marianne> To do the first conscious shock is to be aware that you are receiving an impression … you remain seperate from it. You exist and the impression of it exists. You are remembering yourself and experiencing these impressions.

19:58:59 [marianne] juanpablo> I HAVE NOTICED THAT EACH TIME IT IS MORE DIFFICULT NOT TO WORK ON MYSELF! DOES THIS MEAN THAT THERE ARE LESS OSCILLATIONS? AND THAT THERE WILL BE A TIME WHEN THERE ARE NO MORE OSCILLATIONS? AND AS A CONSEQUENCE THAR THE MASTER IS NEAR? OR IS IT PURE IMAGINATION?

19:59:13 [enrique] una vision de todo ello corresponde al mayordomo, como equilibrar esta situacion entre los resultados y la simple vision de ellos?

20:00:29 [marianne] claudia1> WHEN OUR KIDS ARE OF AGE AND WE HAVE EXPLAINED ALL THE CONSEQUENCES OF SOME ACTS SHOULD WE LET THEM CHOOSE OR DO WE STILL HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THEY FOLLOW WHERE WE THINK IS THE BEST WAY?

20:00:30 [fernando] el poder persibir que al estar preguntando son los yoes que estan integrados en esta maquina y que puedn ser ellos los que lo estan preguntando puede ser una realidad

20:00:34 [azavala] thedog> marianne.- HACER EL PRIMER SHOCK CONSCIENTE ES DARSE CUENTA DE QUE ESTÁS RECIBIENDO UNA IMPRESIÓN….TÚ PERMANECES SEPARADA DE ÉSTA. TÚ EXISTES Y LA IMPRESIÓN DE ELLO TAMBIÉN EXISTE. TÚ ESTÁS RECORDANDOTE A TI MISMA Y EXPERIMENTANDO ESAS IMPRESIONES.

20:02:09 [marianne] enrique> A VISION OF EVERYTHING CORRESPONDS TO STEWART, HOW CAN I BALANCE THIS SITUATION BETWEEN THE RESULTS AND JUST THE VISION OF THEM?

20:02:19 [thedog] juanpablo> Yes, sometimes you must cut the cord. If they change it may be different, but you can only change you, not them. It is a law. The guy says, “My friends wanted to steal and kill and I did not, so now they are no longer my friends.

20:03:40 [marianne] fernando> TO BE ABLE TO PERCEIVE THAT WHILE ASKING THERE ARE I’S INTEGRATED IN THE MACHINE AND THAT IT COULD BE THOSE I”S THAT ARE ASKING, THIS COULD BE A REALITY.

20:03:43 [mariana] en el libro de perspectivas,en el capitulo de ahora estoy sentado aqui,menciona que los centros son como acumuladores,llenos de energia,mi pregunta es cuando llega un momento de centro magnetico hay gasto de energia ES PREGUNTA

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20:05:00 [thedog] Verónica> It is simple. We are like oak trees. Its destiny is to make acorns. My destiny it to create 2 higher bodies and objective consciousness. We should be our destiny, to be what we are supposed to be.

20:05:09 [azavala] thedog> juanpablo.- SÍ, ALGUNAS VECES DEBES CORTAR LA CUERDA. SI ELLOS LO CAMBIAN PUEDE SER DIFERENTE, PERO TÚ SÓLO PUEDES CAMBIARTE A TI, NO A ELLOS. ES UNA LEY. EL TIPO DICE, “MIS AMIGOS QUIEREN ROBAR Y MATAR YO NO, DE MODO QUE ELLOS YA NO SON MIS AMIGOS.

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20:05:56 [marianne] mariana> IN ‘VIEWS’ IN THE CHAPTER OF I AM SITTING HERE NOW, IT IS MENTIONED THAT THE CENTERS ARE LIKE ACCUMULATORS, FULL OF ENENRGY. WHEN WE HAVE A MAGNETIC CENTER MOMENT, IS THAT USING UP ENERGY?

20:07:31 [thedog] juanpablo> No, it is not imagination. It is how it works. The external will always exist, oscillation or note but you will be independent form it. It will still rain.

20:07:34 [azavala] thedog> Verónica.- ES SIMPLE. NOSOTROS SOMOS COMO ROBLES. SU DESTINO ES HACER BELLOTAS. MI DESTINO ES CREAR DOS CUERPOS SUPERIORES Y UNA CONCIENCIA OBJETIVA. NOSOTROS DEBEMOS SER NUESTRO DESTINO, SER LO QUE SE SUPONE DEBEMOS SER.

20:08:28 [mariana] y si esto fuera cierto como puedo recuperar nuevamente la energia?seria recomendable el hacer un ejercicio despues de un momento de centro magnetico?

20:08:59 [marianne] enrique> I AM LEARNING TO DO GLASS STAINED WINDOWS AND I HAVE EXPERIENCED THAT IT IS A LOT OF WORK AND THE RESULT SEEMS VERY LITTLE. HOWEVER OBSERVING IT CLOSELY I REALIZE THAT THE EFFORTS WITH WORK ON MYSELF IS THS SAME. THE ONE THAT WANTS TO MEASURE THE RESULTS IS A QUESTION OF THE MACHINE

20:09:23 [marianne] enrique> THIS WAS THE FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION, THE SECOND PART I HAD ALREADY TRANSLATED

20:09:27 [thedog] claudia1> All birds must leave the nest. You can only direct and create conditions but not help (choose for them).

20:10:27 [marianne] mariana> AND IT THIS IS SO, THEN HOW CAN I RECUPERATE THAT ENERGY? WOULD IT BE RECOMENDABLE TO DO AN EXERCISE AFTER A MAGNETIC CENTER MOMENT?

20:10:38 [azavala] thedog> juanpablo.- NO, NO ES LA IMAGINACIÓN. ASÍ ES COMO TRABAJA. LO EXTERNO SIEMPRE EXISTIRÁ, CON OSCILACIONES O SIN ELLAS, PERO TÚ SERÁS INDEPENDIENTE DE ELLAS….TODAVÍA CONTINUARÁ LLOVIENDO.

20:10:51 [jorge] Se comenta en fragmentos que la Luna tiene 96 leyes y la tierra 48 y asì Con los demàs mundos cada mundo tiene un orden de Leyes, es necesario ò Importante saber cuales son estas ? por ej. las 48 Leyes de la tierra.

20:12:00 [thedog] enrique> The vision usually comes first. To know, in order to be … and to do. Keep a direction towards the vision. As a man thinketh, so is he.

20:12:06 [azavala] thedog> claudia1.- TODOS LOS PÁJAROS DEBEN ABANDONAR EL NIDO. TÚ SÓLO PUEDES DIRIGIR Y CREAR CONDICIONES, PERO NO AYUDAR (ESCOGER POR ELLOS).

20:12:53 [marianne] jorge> IN ‘SEARCH’ IT SAYS THAT THE MOON IS UNDER 96 LAWS AND EARTH UNDER 48 AND SO ON WITH THE OTHER WORLDS, EACH ONE HAS ITS OWN ORDER OF LAW. IS IT NECESSARY OR IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHICH ARE THESE LAWS? P.E. THE 48 LAWS OF THE EARTH?

20:14:22 [azavala] thedog> enrique.- LA VISIÓN USUALMENTE VIENE PRIMERO. SABER, CON EL PROPÓSITO DE SER…Y HACER. MANTÉN LA DIRECCIÓN HACIA LA VISIÓN. COMO UN HOMBRE PIENSA, ASÍ ES ÉL.

20:15:55 [thedog] mariana> No it is saving energy. Imagine many horses tied to a cart. Each trying to pull the cart in many directions at the same time. Wastes alot of energy and some horses are drug against the way they want to go. A magnetic center moment is when they all pulled in the same direction and wow..

20:16:13 [thedog] mariana> the cart went far and fast.

20:19:35 [azavala] thedog> mariana.- NO ES AHORRANDO ENERGÍA. IMAGINA MUCHOS CABALLOS ATADOS A UN CARRUAJE. CADA UNO DE ELLOS TRATANDO DE JALARLO EN MUCHAS DIRECCIONES AL MISMO TIEMPO. DESPERDICIAN MUCHA ENERGÍA Y ALGUNOS CABALLOS SON LLEVADOS AL CONTRARIO DEL CAMINO DONDE QUIEREN IR.- UN MOMENTO DE CENTRO MAGNÉTICO

20:19:51 [thedog] enrique> Measure only efforts, therein is freedom. Results are ALWAYS guaranteed.

20:20:11 [azavala] ES CUANDO TODOS ELLOS JALAN EN LA MISMA DIRECCIÓN Y WOW….EL CARRUAJE VA LEJOS Y RÁPIDO.

20:20:50 [marianne] thedog> your answer to enrique should be an aphorism. it is great.

20:21:40 [marianne] thedog> tu respuesta para enrique deberia ser un aforismo. es genial

20:21:57 [azavala] thedog> enrique.- MIDE SÓLO LOS ESFUERZOS, ALLÍ RADICA LA LIBERTAD. LOS RESULTADOS SIEMPRE SON GARANTIZADOS.

20:22:04 [jorge] èl aforismo 18 considera lo que la gente pienza de tì no lo que dice . Se refiere a ponernos en los zapatos de otros? .Es decir actuar còmo a ellos les gustaria que actuemos con ellos?

20:24:36 [marianne] jorge> APHORISM 18 SAYS TO CONSIDER WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT YOU, NOT WHAT THEY SAY. DOES THIS REFER TO PUTTING YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES? I.E. TO ACT HOW THEY WOULD LIKE US TO ACT?

20:25:35 [claudia1] el amor a los hijos se puede convertir en apego?

20:26:37 [thedog] jorge> There are only 18 forces. 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 + 3 = 18. Each world adds 3, and it is also under all the laws from the worlds above. Examine what is new here on earth that are the 3 laws for world 48. What 3 laws for planets 24, sun 12, etc.

20:26:57 [marianne] claudia1>

20:27:17 [marianne] claudia1> CAN THE LOVE FOR YOUR CHILDREN TURN INTO ATTACHMENT?

20:27:40 [mariana] se puede considerar externamente a alguien que se que esta mintiendo?

20:27:41 [juanpablo] si las inpresiones que vienen atravez de la vista , no vienen de afuera hacia adentro sino que de adentro hacia afuera ! esas impresiones son creadas por nosotros segun el estado en que estemos?

20:28:45 [marianne] mariana> CAN YOU CONSIDER EXTERNALLY SOMEONE WHO IS LYING TO HIMSELF?

20:29:52 [azavala] thedog> jorge.- HAY SÓLO 18 FUERZAS. 3+3+3+3+3+3= 18. CADA MUNDO AÑADE 3 Y ESTÁ TAMBIÉN BAJO LAS LEYES DEL MUNDO ANTERIOR. EXAMINA QUÉ ES NUEVO AQUÍ SOBRE LA TIERRA QUE SON LAS 3 LEYES DEL MUNDO 48. CUÁLES LAS 3 LEYES DEL PLANETA 24, DEL SOL 12, ETC.

20:30:13 [marianne] juanpablo> IF THE IMPRESSIONS PERCEIVED THROUGH SIGHT, DON’T COME FROM OUTSIDE TO THE INSIDE BUT RATHER FROM THE INSIDE OUT, ARE THESE IMPRESSION CREATED BY US ACCORDING TO THE STATE WE ARE IN?

20:31:07 [thedog] jorge> Imagine knowing someone that you do not like but are nice to. He would think you like him cause you are nice to him and say nice things. He scould consider what you think about him. In this way he will try to see himself from a separate view and maybe get a glimps of what he really is…

20:31:36 [thedog] jorge> and what impression he makes and what people actually would think about him.

20:32:08 [enrique] gracias por su compartir saludos a todos thank you the dog and everybody see you next week.

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20:32:25 [thedog] claudia1> Yes, it must at first. We give our center of gravity to them. later we must take it back into ourself.

20:33:37 [thedog] mariana> Everyone lies to themselves, so yes you can external consired everyone.

20:33:43 [fernando] no le contestaron a los yoes

20:34:16 [marianne] fernando> THERE WAS NO ANSWER ABOUT THE I’S.

20:35:05 [azavala] thedog> jorge.- IMAGINA QUE CONOCES A ALGUIEN QUE NO TE GUSTA, PERO CON QUIEN ERES AGRADABLE. ÉL PENSARÁ QUE TE AGRADA PORQUE TÚ ERES AGRADABLE CON ÉL LY DICES COSAS AGRADABLES. ÉL PODRÍA CONSIDERAR QUÉ ES LO QUE PIENSAS DE ÉL. DE ESTA MANERA EL TRATARÁ DE VERSE A SÍ MISMO DESDE UNA VISIÓN SEPARADA

20:35:19 [thedog] juanpablo> Yes, the more practice the more pathways for receiving things from inside.

20:35:47 [juanpablo] thanks russ

20:35:54 [azavala] Y PODRÍA TENER DESTELLOS DE CONOCIMIENTO DE LO QUE REALMENTE ÉL ES Y QUE IMPRESIÓN CAUSA Y LO QUE LA GENTE PODRÍA VERDADERAMENTE PENSAR DE ÉL.

20:36:04 [juanpablo] gracias a todos buenas noches

20:36:14 [alejandra]>[thedog] Fernando’s statement = 20:03:40 [marianne] fernando> TO BE ABLE TO PERCEIVE THAT WHILE ASKING THERE ARE I’S INTEGRATED IN THE MACHINE AND THAT IT COULD BE THOSE I”S THAT ARE ASKING, THIS COULD BE A REALITY.

20:36:38 [marianne] hugs to everyone and I am looking forward to seeing you all in Sanger on Friday. YEEHAH.

20:36:42 [azavala] thedog> claudia1.- SÍ, AL PRINCIPIO. DAMOS NUESTRO CENTRO DE GRAVEDAD A ELLOS. MÁS TARDE DEBEMOS TOMARLO DE REGRESO HACIA NOSOTROS.

20:36:57 [alejandra] Buenas Noches

20:37:00 [mariana] gracias a todos ,gracias Marianne y Alfonso por traduccir,gracias RUSS

20:37:20 [marianne] abrazos para todos y me da mucho gusto poder estar con todos ustedes en Sanger el proximo viernes. yeehah

20:37:30 [azavala] thedog> mariana.- TODO MUNDO SE MIENTE A SI MISMO, ASÍ QUE TÚ PUEDES CONSIDERAR EXTERNAMENTE A TODOS.

20:37:47 [alejandra] marianne> See you Friday!!!!

20:37:51 [thedog] fernando> I am not sure of you question. We have many i’s. many passengers. we can occupy the place with particular passengers or pick up anybody. choose.

20:38:09 [marianne] mariana> THANKS TO EVERYONE. THANKS TO MARIANNE AND ALFONSO FOR TRANSLATING

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20:38:29 [pamela] Gracias a todos.

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20:38:49 [thedog] Thanks for being here. See you next week.

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20:39:00 [Verónica] la pregunta de Fernando esta en 19.41.26

20:39:01 [james] Hasta Luego!!!

20:39:11 [azavala] thedog> juanpablo.- SÍ, CUANTO MÁS PRACTICOS, MAS SENDEROS PARA RECIBIR COSAS DESDE ADENTRO.

20:39:19 [claudia1] Gracias a todos por todo!!!

20:39:19 [jorge] Gracias a Russell y atodos por este Chat.

20:39:33 [marianne] Verónica> FERNANDO QUESTION IS IN 19:41:26

20:39:37 [Verónica] Gracias a todos, buenas noches… los veo el proximo sabado… Marianne buen viaje… A los demás los veo el lunes en el chat

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20:40:58 [claudia1] Gracias Russ, te mando un beso

20:41:10 [azavala] thedog> fernando.- NO ESTOY SEGURO DE TU PREGUNTA. TENEMOS MUCHOS YOS, MUCHOS PASAJEROS. NOSOTROS PODEMOS OCUPAR EL LUGAR CON PASAJEROS EN PARTICULAR O ESCOGER A CUALQUIERA. ESCOGE.

20:41:26 [azavala] thedog> GRACIAS POR ESTAR AQUÍ.- LOS VERÉ LA PRÓXIMA SEMANA.

20:42:31 [fernando] gracias por todo nos vemos el lunes

20:42:42 [thedog] See you friday Marianne

20:43:22 [azavala] thedog> TE VERÉ EL PRÓXIMO VIERNES MARIANNE

20:43:34 [Verónica] besos a todos… especialmente a Russ

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20:44:42 [azavala] BUENAS NOCHES!!!

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15:59:41 [jperrrott] B.M. Tony Usher delivering (on his feet) ‘Notes on a Decision to Work’ to the rest of the class!

16:00:40 Tony enters this room

16:00:42 stevew enters this room

16:01:31 [Tony] Hello everyone.

16:02:11 [jperrrott] Tony> Hi Tony!

16:02:26 thedog enters this room

16:02:37 stephen enters this room

16:02:53 [thedog] Best Moments

16:03:10 [stevew] BM: Perceiving during a LightWalking exercise that all that is just “happened”.

16:04:36 [stephen] hi everyone

16:04:50 [thedog] Gratz Tony

16:05:03 [thedog] Awesome Steve

16:05:22 [stevew] BM2: Seeing that even in sleep the LA-FA-DO triad is set up … but happens un-remarked and produces an automatic result by purely mechanical selection. We arrive at TI without observing how.

16:05:28 [jperrrott] stephen>

16:05:50 [stephen] my BM for the week has been making some attempts to stop an unconcious muscle movement

16:05:56 scrivs enters this room

16:05:59 [stephen] feeling more present because of it

16:06:31 [scrivs] Hi all.

16:06:32 [thedog] Good to see you here stephen

16:06:38 pamela enters this room

16:07:35 [jperrrott] scrivs>

16:07:50 [pamela] BM: Hearing everyone’s best moments in class this a.m.; and, our current, new student’s truly, great efforts.

16:08:24 [scrivs] jperrrott>

16:08:36 [james] BM The “I Am” at class this morning; bringing the new understandings of the week into the “I Am” and reaching a new 10.

16:08:39 [stephen] thanks. it’s good to be here

16:08:51 [stevew] (That’s TI of the “previous” cycle of the enneagram, of course, where we look at how to do what has already been selected.)

16:10:02 [jperrrott] stevew> All the difference as between the cycle commencing

16:10:30 [jperrrott] stevew> …by choice, or by reaction!

16:10:32 [Tony] B.M. watching documentry interview with FBI agent who interviewed bad criminals, he said after a couple of hours they reveal their illusion/imagination that they are trying to fullfill by committing their crimes..

16:10:39 [thedog] BM: Continued study of the oscillation chart and an inkling of some new understanding, maybe a revelation, trying to break through.

16:12:16 [stevew] thedog> Can you share any hints?

16:12:19 [thedog] Tony> Nice Tony, Did the FBI guy say what was his illusion/imagination that he was trying to fullfill by becomming an FBI agent?

16:12:50 [stevew] thedog> Nice!

16:13:39 [Tony] thedog>

16:14:45 [stephen] pamela> which new student?

16:14:52 [pamela] Carol Ann

16:15:08 [pamela] stephen> Carol Ann / Roberts girlfriend.

16:15:46 [stephen] oh neat!

16:16:27 [thedog] stevew> It is the composition of its spaces and not points (oscillations fill spaces, overlapping, connecting, extending…), which is a rattling in me noggin. Watch this space.

16:18:34 [james] thedog> The oscillation chart with the various major and minor oscillations on scale-1,2,3 of an octave?

16:18:43 [stevew] thedog> A composition of instances … in time and in space.

16:18:55 [scrivs] jperrrott> After a push a pause. After an ‘I AM’ an ‘AM I ‘. Expansion and contraction. Absolute at each end. And all other points or spaces in between. Yes?

16:20:20 [thedog] stevew> The moments (points) are an octave apart, yet their spaces (oscillations) touch.

16:20:49 [thedog] james> Yes

16:20:56 gary enters this room

16:21:18 [gary] evening all

16:21:38 [stephen] … and even now noticing the tendency for this unconcious habit, it’s pretty strong in there

16:22:24 [jperrrott] scrivs> Possibly! The ‘I’ of the Weave “AMs” – after which all that “AMs” converges towards ‘I’.

16:22:28 [stevew] thedog> The term “moment” is also used in mathematics for the action of a force that creates momentum. Interesting to juxtapose that with “moment” as instant in time.

16:22:41 [pamela] thedog> Do the points in these oscillations change their function per their location to the oscillation rather than to the entire octave?

16:23:04 [jperrrott] gary> Hi Gary! You might want to share your recent observation/constation?

16:23:37 [pamela] thedog> Is it diatonic rearranged?

16:23:54 [jperrrott] stevew> …and in structural mechanics (bending moment).

16:24:09 [gary] jperrrott> yes.

16:24:16 [thedog] stevew> I like it.

16:24:59 [scrivs] jperrrott> Sure. Nice. But on a personal scale , nearer the heart….then every breath echoes the birth of the universe ..?

16:25:44 [scrivs] ‘I make the tides of breathing ny life and death’.

16:26:33 [stevew] scrivs> What momentum causes the universe to continue between breaths?

16:27:08 [jperrrott] scrivs> Sure, but draw closer and forget the mystical metaphor (for the moment). Each breath is a cycle of YOUR life! Then look at Hush der Dem!

16:28:12 [scrivs] stevew> A force has a moment about a fulcrum , whether it moves( creates momentum) or not. That refers to another definition I think.

16:28:42 [thedog] pamela> The points are often the moment of change. The occur at specific places in relation to the whole. Existence is often in the spaces. In music, we label the points. I color, we label the spaces.

16:30:08 [thedog] stevew> Hmmm, someone slaps it on the ass?

16:30:35 [scrivs] stevew> Good Question. Dunno.A lot of cosmologists would like to know. Tell me. Now. If you know . SVP.

16:30:39 [gary] During my first day at College I was given my first assignment which is to be on the subject of business management, I was asked to read it through before the Tutor went over it with us. Whilst the Tutor was speaking about what needed to be done for the assignment I became identified with fear ..

16:31:16 [stevew] scrivs> A good question should never be answered by someone else.

16:32:27 [jperrrott] thedog> Nice one! The slap of the bum, casues a reaction that triggers a mechanical continuum.

16:33:19 [thedog] The big bang maybe should be called the big slap.

16:33:31 [scrivs] stevew> But I am someone else.

16:34:14 [gary] to the point that i just wanted to get the hell out of there! I asked the Tutor a question about a part that I’d not understood and when he answered i still did not get it, due to not being able to hear him due to my being identified…..

16:35:53 [jperrrott] thedog> The Universe has been trying to get comfortable ever since!

16:36:24 [scrivs] Who’s doing the slapping?

16:37:30 [thedog] gary> That is very good. Exposeing it is, makes it possible to defeat.

16:37:39 sperrott enters this room

16:39:20 [gary] However during this experience I was being watched or was I watching myself? I knew when the Tutor answered my question that I’d not understood also, it appeared obvious to me that the tutor also knew that I’d not understood! Also I was being told to calm down, to relax, to step back and take…

16:41:29 [Tony] thedog> What are the other the Associative influences other than hypnotism?

16:41:55 [Tony] thedog> Please

16:42:46 [gary] a look at what is needed to be done, that I have parts that do not believe that this sort of work is possible for me that it’s the experience of the Child’s emotional state, which I do recognise as in the feeling of him, he is very scared, so I will help him succeed and grow.

16:43:47 [thedog] gary> See everything as just data. Impersonal. Even allow the contradictory data conjured by man or by our many I’s (personalities). It is just data; some right and some wrong, some closer some farther. Take it all in, then evaluate its value. What is useful, what is harmfull, etc.

16:44:12 [jperrrott] thedog> I suppose that, if I’m chopping down a tree, there are a number of oscillations that, whilst separateed by octaves are in fairly close proximity.

16:45:03 [gary] thedog> Thank you Russell.

16:45:56 [stephen] gary> it’s always better to see it happen than not notice at all!

16:47:22 [sperrott] gary> I have similar exepriences at University. The other day we were grouped into a circle and the teach aksed us to all recall a book we had enjoyed reading and then say why, what we were wearing, how it touched us and what it reminded us of in our own lives etc etc – following a general….

16:47:51 [thedog] Tony> Form, suggestion, relationship and superiority.

16:47:52 [gary] stephen> Yes, I agree, I’ve lived through many time like these!

16:48:31 [stevew] I saw, today, an article on religious fundamentalism. I was struck, as I read it, by how alone the 5s can feel as “God in the universe” if it denies the 3s. Such “responsibility”.

16:48:46 [stephen] gary> great. more attempts bring more cofidence! 😉

16:49:07 [sperrott] gary> …introduction of ourseles by ourselves to the group. So far I had observed parts that had been shy, afrid of being shown up; ones that felt important and superior to others, ones that felt ol and out of place in the group and ones that felt kind and good spitited…….but in this …

16:50:39 [jperrrott] stevew> Especially if it ONLY denies the 3s and forgets to re-affirm the 1s!

16:51:16 [pamela] gary> Society, upbringing, etc. creates the fear of our selves; but being awake, we can step back and see it is just an impression of events, I can take them in new and re-develop myself.

16:51:20 [Tony] thedog> Are they mentioned in All and Everything or somewhere else?

16:51:21 [sperrott] gary> …particular class, I watched the thought..’right, so when will it be my turn?’…….’.im I am fourth if she starts at this end’…..’oooh shit, they will all look at me’…….’Man! I am scared’.,……’perhaps I should just go to the loo and get out of it’……’no, you cant do that, you.

16:51:26 [stevew] jperrrott> Seems to me that it can only re-affirm the 1s if connected to it.

16:52:28 [jperrrott] stevew> Precisely!

16:53:07 [sperrott] gary> …will have to in the end anyway’…..I observed my heart beating faster and then the thought….’well, if this is going on for me, I wonder if anyone else is feeling like this…..I looked around and watched the shufflings, ruddy cheeks and sweeeming discofort of some others and saw I was..

16:53:09 [gary] sperrott> Yes, I recognise that!

16:53:25 [sperrott] gary> …not alone.

16:55:19 [thedog] The 5s has its Re, So and TI at the 1s’ Do, Fa and La. Hmm

16:55:26 [sperrott] gary>I felyt kindness for those who were uncofortable and compassion because I have the tools and guidance and maybe they do not. How woluld they cope?I watched, the first, a good looking young lad- he had a good front although he seeme

16:55:57 [gary] pamela> Yeah, I can se what you mean, Thank you.

16:57:44 [sperrott] gary> …to be having to work for it. He had an added dilemma, that he and the girl opposite him were obviously very attracted to each other so he had an impression to make that was not aqnything to do with the class…….and the girl next to me squirmed in her seat….I could see others waving…

16:57:53 [thedog] Tony> Views from the real world. Influences chapter, 2nd or third chapter from end.

16:57:58 [gary] scrivs> Yes, thats what helps, need to remember that I’m going to die.

16:58:14 [sperrott] gary> their feet and jiggling their knees and when they spoke they fiddled and tried to look confident.

16:58:29 [Tony] thedog> Thank you

16:59:10 [scrivs] gary> And everyone you lay eyes on………..

16:59:12 [stephen] sperrott> what did you do? 🙂

16:59:35 [gary] scrivs> Indeed!

17:00:06 [sperrott] gary> It was an interesting project – so much to observe. By the time it got to me, I had ammassed alot of force to put against those parts of my machine that habitually fall into fear. I am not saying it was a breeze, I watched some fear and hurrying going on whilst I spoke of my choice of

17:00:19 [pamela] good nite all, other obligations calling

17:00:21 [thedog] Tony> That would be a good memory piece about Chemico phisical and the associative influences and the laws of attraction and repulsion.

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17:00:35 pamela enters this room

17:01:05 [Tony] thedog> Will do

17:01:19 [sperrott] gary> ….book but I amssed so much force from it and next time I will experiment further and bear kindness for others fears and issues in mind as much as I can…..

17:01:20 pamela exits from this room

17:02:43 [stephen] what time is the monday chat?

17:03:09 [sperrott] gary> I also notice at University that people are there to learn and therfore receptive to sharing ideas. I havent found thisd in life on the whole. I have manily found people who want to impress on me that they do know somehting or another. Do you find that at college? That it is an inspirational

17:03:11 [thedog] stephen> It is spanish. 6pm

17:03:27 [sperrott] gary> environment?

17:03:46 [stephen] good chance to learn some spanish 😀

17:04:00 [thedog] DING DING DING

17:04:30 [thedog] Great hour. Thanks for making it important to be here.

17:04:38 [sperrott] thanx

17:04:52 [jperrrott] thedog> Dong – dong – dong! Bye now!

17:05:09 [Tony] Night everyone

17:05:09 [stephen] thank you all, good night

17:05:11 thedog exits from this room

17:05:22 [james] Have a good work week!!!

17:05:29 jperrrott exits from this room

17:05:37 [gary] sperrott> sounds like good work, thanks for sharing it. Was my first day so can report much yet on that subject.

17:05:43 [Tony] Night everyone.

17:05:50 [gary] sperrott> can’t

17:05:57 [stevew] Bye, all! XX

17:06:07 stevew exits from this room

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17:06:33 [gary] Bye for now.

17:07:04 [sperrott] N night all.xxxxxxxxxxx

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17:45:52 [scrivs] last/ 1000

19:01:38 alejandra enters this room

19:04:24 mariana enters this room

19:04:54 [mariana] HOLA ALE,BUENAS TARDES

19:05:32 [alejandra] mariana> Hola, Buenas tardes tambien a ti!!

19:07:08 [alejandra] Mi mejor momento de la semana, fue el dia de hoy comprendiendo mas el capitulo SOL de Secretos Cosmicos!!

19:08:28 [mariana] QUIERO COMPARTIRTE QUE MI MEJOR MOMENTO FUE EL DIA DE HOY AL JUGAR UN JUEGO DE MESA CON MIS PRIMOS Y DARME CUENTA QUE EL JUGAR CON NIÑOS ME PROVOCA UN ESTADO DE PRESENCIA MUY FUERTE POR LA SENSIBILIDAD QUE TE COMPARTEN

19:09:59 [alejandra] mariana> Es maravilloso poder aprender de los ninos ya que ellos tienen mayor coneccion con su esencia!!

19:10:26 [mariana] TENGO UNA PREGUNTA,SE PUEDE TENER UN MOMENTO DE CENTRO MAGNETICO ESTANDO DORMIDO?PUEDE PASAR ESTO EN UN SUEÑO O ES IMAGINACION?

19:12:35 [alejandra] mariana> Si,cuando estamos dormidos nuestros centros pueden tener conecciones!!

19:13:07 [alejandra] mariana> pero estos momentos son solamente accidentales asi que no podemos contar con ellos.

19:14:12 [alejandra] mariana> y quizas no sean muy fuertes como lo son cuando estamos despiertos.

19:15:18 [mariana] MIRA HE ESTADO ESTUDIANDO EL TEMA DE CENTRO MAGNETICO ,ANOCHE SOÑABA QUE ESTABA A PUNTO DE MORIR LO CUAL EN EL SUEÑO MARIANA DECIA,ESTO ES UN MOMENTO DE CENTRO MAGNETICO,ME DESPERTE Y ME SENTI PRESENTE .

19:16:31 [mariana] ENTIENDO QUE EL CENTRO MAGNETICO ,ES UN MOMENTO EN EL QUE HAY UNA UNIFICACION DE LOS CENTROS,CREA MEMORIA Y DA UNA ENSEÑANZA,HAY ALGUNA OTRA CARACTERISTICA?

19:16:51 Verònica enters this room

19:17:28 [Verònica] Hola buenas tardes, preciosas… ofrezco una disculpa por entrar tan tarde pero la màquina me gano y no me dì cuenta que hora era

19:18:07 [mariana] HOLA VERO QUE GUSTO DE QUE YA ESTES AQUI,BUENAS TARDES

19:18:08 [alejandra] mariana> Eso es maravilloso. Esos momentos son los que debemos recordar para poder trabajar mas en nuestro SER!!

19:18:34 [alejandra] Verònica> Hola Vero!!

19:20:12 [Verònica] Les comparto que mi mejor momento fue el sàbado, tuve un evento con mi hija, en donde se antepuso el Trabajo a pesar que para la máquina fue fuerte y se querìa identificar y considerar internamente, pero el Trabajo no me dejo y me afiancè de él y verifiquè ciertamente que tengo la habilidad de

19:20:13 [alejandra] mariana> Estamos conectados con algo mas Alto, Nuestro Mayordomo mas presente y algunas veces sentimos coneccion o comprension con Dios.

19:20:28 [Verònica] elegir, y elegí el Trabajo…

19:21:30 [alejandra] Verònica> Guau!!! es Grandioso

19:23:25 [Verònica] El viernes jugué el Juego, obtuve cuerpo, excedentes, cartas muchas cartas, y me morí sin Escuela¡¡¡ En ese momento comprendí, que la Escuela te da la segunda y tercera línea y que sin ellas no hay rumbo ni dirección, aunque haya esfuerzos… Y me siento muy afortunada de tener esta Escuela

19:23:43 fernando enters this room

19:24:10 [fernando] buenas tardes con amor y precencia

19:26:23 [alejandra] Verònica> Que comprension tan maravillosa, gracias por compartirla con nosotros!!

19:26:47 [alejandra] fernando> Hola buenas tardes!! Bienvedido!!

19:29:24 [alejandra] Tienen algunas preguntas o mas comentarios

19:29:51 [fernando] mi momento de centro magnetico fue el sabado al tener que seguir trabajando la actitud de mi esposa que se sigue oponiendo a que valla a las reuniones de los sabados y me pongo en .os zapatos de ella despues de haberla dejado por mucho tiempo sola cuando yo hacistia a la logia masonica y eso le ca

19:30:08 [mariana] QUIERO COMPARTIRLES ALGO EL VOLVER A REINICIAR EL TRABAJO CONMIGO MISMA YA HECE TRES SEMANAS Y HE HESTADO MUY SENSIBLE Y ANTE UN EVENTO DONDE SE MANIFIESTE LA EMOCION YA SE AGRADABLE O DESAGRADABLE ME DAN GANAS DE LLORAR ,COMO SABER QUE ESTA EMOCION NO ES MECANICA?

19:30:38 [fernando] usa el reproche que me manifiesta

19:30:46 jorge enters this room

19:31:12 [fernando] gracias ALEJANDRA

19:32:21 [alejandra] fernando> Muy bien,continua con tus esfuerzos y un dia vendran todos tus resultados!!

19:33:01 [jorge] Hola buenas tardes a todos , mi mejor momeno de la semana fue el tener una conversaciòn con mi padre y fue muy productiva.

19:33:15 [Verònica] Fernando, te comparto que el sábado tuve un evento con mi hija, y la máquina asoció algo parecido… sin embargo me permití ver la vara completa… si no he estado con ella compartiendo más tiempo, por estar en el Grupo… pero también tuve la siguiente asociación: si le he estado dedicando

19:33:18 [fernando] Jorge buenas tardes

19:33:38 [alejandra] jorge> hola!! Excelente momento!!

19:35:32 [alejandra] mariana> Depende de como eras antes de despertar , sino llorabas antes entonces esto no es probable mecanico porque toma atencion erronea para llorar.

19:35:35 [Verònica] mi tiempo a la Escuela para poder Ser, para transformarme… el Trabajo me tiene que dar la respuesta y sabes me “agarré” en ese momento del Trabajo… y creeme que no me arrepiento de invertir ni un solo minuto en la Escuela¡¡¡

19:38:47 [jorge] En el ej. Caminar Objetivo No importa que se haga contando menos pasos que mil? los que propone Russell? ò el caso es hacer el ej. aunque sean menos pasos.

19:38:52 [fernando] no obstante que tube la suerte de ser despertado en Vallarta tengo que reconocer que estar conciente de existir unido a una maquina biologica que cuando nace se encontro con un mundo ya echo al cual como todos solo se tubo que adaptar a ese mundo y ahora que quieres que esa maquinq cambie ese curs

19:39:40 [alejandra] mariana> Podemos llorar cuando estamos felices, podemos llorar cuando estamos tristes, podemos llorar cuando tenemos una nueva comprension y podemos llorar cuando tenemos remordimiento por nuestras acciones. Solamente observalo y sabras de donde viene!!

19:39:53 [fernando] o de vida es muy trabajoso mientras no concientise que efectivamente no soy esa maquina

19:40:20 [mariana] GRACIAS ALE

19:41:13 [alejandra] jorge> Si el numero de pasos no es importante, solamente nuestros esfuerzos eso es lo IMPORTANTE!!

19:41:15 [fernando] grcias ´por tu comentario Vvero como siempre es refrescante para mi

19:43:26 [alejandra] fernando> Trata de mantener el recordar, recordar esa comprension y crecera en ti y te alludara a llegar ser libre de Fernando!!

19:46:51 [jorge] El ej. de recordar recordarse se puede hacer con un sòlo centro? sì lo elijo asì y he observado que cuando quiero recordarme en un centro los otros centros se quieren recordar tambièn y asì lo hago.

19:48:47 [fernando] el sabado propuse una pregunta quiza mal echa ; que si en el momento de estar preguntando era algun yo , existe alguna confucion en mi forma de entender que es lo que se manifiesta un yo el centro formatorio o alguno de los centros

19:49:01 [alejandra] jorge> Si estas en lo correcto, para recordar el recordar cualquier cosa nos va ha traer a un estado de Recuerdo de Si,lo cual envuelve muchos centros.

19:49:17 [jorge] en el ej . de caminar objetivo se tiene que mirar a los pies , lo que he observado de que sea asì es que no distrae mi atenciòn . Algo màs podrias añadir a este?

19:49:59 [jorge] es decir al porque es necesario ver lor los pies .

19:50:53 [alejandra] fernando> Si el Yo viene con palabras ese viene el aparato Formatorio!!

19:52:50 [alejandra] jorge> Lo que Russell me puso hacer en el caminar Objetivo me dijo ve hacia tus pies he imagina un globlo y ahi unicamente vas ha tener toda tu atencion en cada uno de tus centros.

19:53:37 [jorge] Te agradesco Alejandra y a todos por compartir en este chat, voy a continuar laborando . Nos vemos el Sabado.

19:54:04 [fernando] gracias Alejandra y tambien se puede inbolucrar que el formatorio influye en cualquiera de los centros

19:54:05 [Verònica] alejandra> es hacer un triple al mismo tiempo al Caminar Obj.

19:54:14 [alejandra] jorge> Gracias Por hacer tu prioridad el trabajo en ti mismo!!

19:54:38 [jorge] Gracias a Ustedes . Vay.

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19:54:58 [Verònica] alejandra> wow amiga¡¡¡¡

19:55:00 [alejandra] Verònica> Si, Vero!!

19:56:51 [alejandra] fernando> Nuestra Meta es no estar en el Formatorio asi que debemos utilizar la Tercera Respuesta para disminuir el aparato formatorio.

19:57:27 [fernando] correcto y gracias Alejandra

19:57:28 [mariana] GRACIAS A TODOS ,GRACIAS ALE POR ESTAR AQUI

19:59:28 [alejandra] sI!!!

19:59:47 [fernando] agradesco todas sus atenciones y les deceo lo mejor de esta vida a todos QUE ALCANCEN EL MAYOR ESTADO DE CONCIENCIA nos vemos el proximo CHAT

20:00:28 [alejandra] Verònica> En el libro de Prespectivas Capitulo Influencias.

20:00:51 [Verònica] alejandra> perfecto¡¡¡

20:01:27 [alejandra] Verònica> Gracias a todos por sus presencia!!

20:01:31 [Verònica] En el proximo chat del lunes, traeremos algunas preguntas o comprensiones al respecto de este tema: Influencias del libro de Perspectivas…

20:02:12 [Verònica] Gracias a tí, por tu compartir… que tengas una maravillosa semana llena de Trabajo

20:02:16 [alejandra] fernando> Gracias Fernando por tu presencia y comentarios!

20:02:41 [alejandra] mariana> Hasta Luego Mary!! nos vemos el Sabado!!

20:02:43 [Verònica] Nos vemos el sábado en el chat de Russ

20:03:03 [mariana] HASTA LUEGO ALE GRACIAS

20:03:09 [alejandra] Verònica> Gracias Vero por tu compartir y alluda!!

20:03:37 [mariana] NOS VEMOS EL SABADO BESOS Y SALUDOS A TODOS

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