June 26 & 27, 2004

[Russell Smith]

Mexico/America

[thedog] You need God … if you have no rules.

[thedog] Share the EXERCISE you did most this week; how many times did you do it; what were your results; how will you improve on your efforts for next week.

[Verónica] Hola, buenas tardes. Good afternoon dear master

[thedog] Verónica> Greetongs to you Miss Veronica

[carlosc] Hola a todos

[thedog] ceejay> Hola Carol Jean Lewis-Zavala

[azavala] HOLA…HELLO, HELLO!!!

[thedog] Share the EXERCISE you did most this week; how many times did you do it; what were your results; how will you improve on your efforts for next week.

[azavala] thedog> COMPARTAN EL EJERCICIO QUE MÁS HICIERON ESTA SEMANA CUANTAS VECES LO HICIERON , CUALES FUERON LOS RESULTADOS, COMO INCREMENTARAN SUS ESFUERZOS PARA LA PRÓXIMA SEMANA.

[enrique] buenas tardes a todos

[Verónica] El ejercicio que estuve realizando en la semana fue el Yo Soy, por lo menos lo hice una vez al día, el resultado PRESENCIA y màs PRESENCIA durante todo el día.

[enrique] el ejercicio que màs practique fue el yo soy, todos los dias de la semana.al mismo tiempo hice algunos ejercicios maestros y veo la necesidad de estar màs presente para estudiar los secretos cosmicos.

[marianne] the exercice I did most was active listening. I did not count it but I tried to be present whenwever I talked to people. The results were awesome. I could feel my presence increase and I could love and compassion flow

[thedog] My exercise this week was picking a center every time I left the house. I had a sense of being much taller than myself. My head seemed to be up at the top of the trees and I was looking down. Next week I’ll try to see the tops of the trees.

[marianne] veronica: the exercise that I realized this week was the I Am , I did it al least once a day, the result was presence and more presence all ay long.

[Verónica] La próxima semana que para mí comienza mañana, será de realizar el Yo Soy, escuchar activamente, vara de dos puntas, y algunos maestros. El resultado lo veré el próximo sábado.

[enrique] los resultados son de mayor presencia.

[carlosc] El ejercicio que mas hice esta semana es el de la atencion triple, lo hice diario, los resultados fueron un mayor equilibrio de la maquina, observar a los yoes como se manifiestan y una mayor presencia de la presencia, y lo voy a mantener durante toda la siguiente semana

[mauricanto] buenas tardes a todos

[marianne] enrique: the exercise I did most was I AM, every day of the week at the same time I did some master exercises and I see the necessity to be more present to study cosmic secrets.

[thedog] marianne> Very great. Your attemps to do it every time you talk to others will, by Law, give you great results.

[azavala] thedog> MI EJERCICIO ESTA SEMANA FUE ELEGIR UN CENTRO CADA VEZ QUE DEJARA LA CASA. TUVE LA SENSACIÓN DE SER MÁS ALTO DE LO QUE SOY. MI CABEZA PARECIA ESTAR EN LA PUNTA DE LOS ARBOLES Y MIRABA HACIA ABAJO. LA PROXIMA SEMANA TRATARE DE VER LA PUNTA DE LOS ARBOLES.

[thedog] Verónica> Great. Next week, tell me you did it twice each day…….

[marianne] veronica: next week which starts tomorrow, I want to realize the I am, active listening, 2 ends of the stick, and some master xercises. I will see the result next saturday

[azavala] thedog> marianne.- MUY BIEN. TUS INTENTOS DE HACERLO CADA VEZ QUE HABLAS A LOS OTROS TE DARA, POR LEY, GRANDES RESULTADOS.

[marianne] enrique:; the results are more presence

[azavala] thedog> Verónica.- BIEN. LA PROXIMA SEMANA, DIME QUE LO HICISTE DOS VECES POR DIA…

[MigueAngel] I have been doing daily my memory work, reviewing The Essence of the Teachings of the Masters, the result: they are rooted in my mind. next week i will work with reviewing fears-identification.

[mauricanto] el ejercicio que mas hice esta semana fuè el de los aforismos, no falle un dia.

[marianne] carlosc: The exercise I did most is the threefold attention, I did it every day, the results were more balance in my machine, observing the Is that manifested themselves and a bigger presence of the presence and I will keep it up during next week

[mauricanto] the exercise that i did this week was the Dogtales every day in the weekend

jorge enters this room

[mauricanto] and i would like to work for the next week the unnecesary chat/talk

[thedog] EVERYONE LISTEN TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. IF YOU DO EXERCISES, EVEN ONCE EVERY DAY, YOU GET MORE PRESENCE. IT IS A LAW……IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPEN IF YOU DID THEM 50 TIMES EACH DAY

[marianne] mauricanto: the exercise I did most was studying the aphorism, I did not fail one day.

[azavala] MigueAngel> HE ESTADO HACIENDO DIARIAMENTE MI TRABAJO DE MEMORIZACIÓN, REPASANDO “LA ESENCIA DE LAS ENSEÑANZAS DE LOS MAESTROS” EL RESULTADO ES QUE HAN ENRAIZADO EN MI MENTE. LA PROXIMA SEMANA TRABAJARE REPASANDO LA IDENTIFICACIÓN CON LOS MIEDOS.

[thedog] AND IF YOU WANT FREEDOM QUICKLY….DO THEM 50 TIMES AN HOUR

[jorge] Buenas tardes a todos .Good afternon Russell.

[thedog] yOU WILL CUT A LIFETIME SUBJECTIVE JOURNEY DOWN TO A MONTH OBJECTIVE JOURNEY.

[thedog]>[jorge]

[azavala] thedog> CADA UNO ESCUCHE LO QUE ESTAS DICIENDO. SI HACES EJERCICIOS, INCLUSO UNA VEZ POR DÍA, OBTENDRAS MAS PRESENCIA. ES UNA LEY…IMAGINA QUE PASARÍA SI LO HICIERAS 50 VECES CADA DÍA.

[azavala] thedog> Y SI QUIERES LA LIBERTAD RAPIDAMENTE…HAZLOS 50 VECES EN UNA HORA.

[Verónica] Esto que nos indicas en estos momentos, tiene relación al comentario que nos hiciste en un desayuno: vale más la constancia que la calidad en el Trabajo?

[thedog] MigueAngel> Hush Der Dem. Would you share that please?

[azavala] thedog> RECORTARAS UNA VIDA DE JORNADA SUBJETIVA A UN MES DE JORNADA OBJETIVA.

[marianne] My best moment was when I was able to consciously stop myself from doing something I had done all my life. Mi mejor momento fue cuando era capaz de pararme de hacer algo que habia hecho toda mi vida

[azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- HUSH DER DEM. ¿PODRÍAS COMPARTIR ESO POR FAVOR?

[marianne] Veronica: what you are saying now, is it in relationship to what you mentioned at breakfast: the consistency is more important than the quality of the work?

[thedog] marianne> I am sure, God stopped a moment and turned to look when he heard that someone consciously stopped themselves. Bravo!

[mauricanto] Mi mejor momento fuè ahora antes de aterrizar donde el avion se movia con aire muy agresivo.. senti miedo sin embargo al hacer cierto ejercicio, me senti muy feliz y tranquilo.

[thedog] Verónica> Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

[Verónica] Thaks. Gracias

[azavala] thedog> marianne.- ESTOY SEGURO, DIOS PARO UN MOMENTO Y VOLTEO A MIRAR CUANDO ESCUCHO QUE ALGUIEN CONSCIENTEMENTE SE PARO A SÍ MISMO. BRAVO.

[mauricanto] Mi best moment was now before lannding when the plane has moved very agresive with the wind.. i felt scared but at made any kind of exercise, i felt happy and calmdown.

[marianne] mauricanto: my best moment was now before landing when the airplane was moved by some very aggressive air. I was afraid, however by practising a certain exercise I fel very happy and peaceful

[marianne] dog para veronica: si, si, si, si

[jorge] Mi mejor momento fue el dia de hoy cuando a pesar de una fricciòn que tube con Yolanda en esta semana estamos ahora bien gracias al trabajo sobre sì.Utilizando el razonamiento activo se armonizaron la fricciòn.

[thedog] mauricanto> Great. Now do that before the plane shakes…and you will be calm before it happens and when it happens.

[marianne] my best moment was today – even though I had a friction with Yolanda during the week, we were fine today thanks to the work on ourselves. Using active reasoning we could harmonize the friction.

[mauricanto] thedog> ah ok.

[marianne] the last statement was from jorge

[jorge] Me gustaria saber de que manera se puede proceder cuando a pesar de que ù tilizas las herramientas de trabajo y no cambian las cosas. Hay alguna sugerencia?ò es que se usan mal las herramientas de trabajo?

[renatta] HOLA A TODOS MI MEJOR MOMENTO SE HA PRESENTADO ESTA SEMANA, HE ESTADO ESTUDIANDO, LEYENDO, MEMORIZANDO LA ENSEÑANZA DE LOS MAESTROS Y DANDOME CUENTA QUE SOLO EL CONTACTO CON LAS IDEAS ME PONE EN OTRA POSIBILIDAD, ESTOY MUY CONTENTA POR ESO.

[azavala] thedog> mauricanto.- BIEN. AHORA HAZ ESO QUE HACIAS ANTES DE QUE EL AVION SE ESTREMECIERA…Y TU ESTARÁS EN CALMA ANTES DE QUE SUCEDA Y CUANDO SUCEDA.

[marianne] jorge: I would like to know how to procede when things do not change even though I am using the tools of the work. Do you have a suggestion? does it mean I am using the tools incorrectly?

[thedog] jorge> The friction is never with someone else…it is with yourself. We must see that all dificulties are within us. We must change to be free from external influences. Then we can love our neighbor.

[renatta] HUSH DER DEM: PERMANECE PRESENTE EN CADA RESPIRACIÒN, NO DEJES QUE TU ATENCIÒN VAGUE NI LO QUE DURA UNA SOLA RESPIRACIÒN, RECUERDATE SIEMPRE Y EN TODAS LAS SITUACIONES.

[thedog] renatta> Bravo Renatta

[enrique] Cuando se dice en el segundo parrafo del capitulo dos del libro de secretos cosmicos”y asì nuestra infinitud que todo lo mantiene decidiò cambiar el principio del sistema de funcionamiento de ambas leyes sagradas fundamentales… dependiente de fuerzas provenientes del exterior. en mi caso, pedir,

[jorge] Hola Miguel Angel estas ahi?

[marianne] renatta: hi to everyone. My BM was this week. I was studying, reading, memorizing the teachings of the masters and I realized that I only have a possibility if I am in contact with the ideas of the 5th way – that made me very content

[azavala] thedog> jorge.- LA FRICCION NUNCA ES CON ALGUIEN MAS…ES CONTIGO MISMO. DEBEMOS VER QUE TODAS LAS DIFICULTADES ESTAN DENTRO DE NOSOTROS MISMOS. DEBEMOS CAMBIAR Y SER LIBRES DE LAS INFLUENCIAS EXTERNAS. ENTONCES PODEMOS AMAR A NUESTRO VECINO.

[thedog] I think Miguel has lost contact with the chat

[marianne] renatta: hush der dem: be present at every breath. Do not let the attention wander for the duration of a single breath. Remember yourself always and in all situations.

[azavala] thedog> PIENSO QUE MIGUEL PERDIO CONTACTO CON EL CHAT.

[enrique] pedir, pedir, pedir, con los ejercicios es una manifestaciòn interna de lo que externamente me “afecta”, la actitud correcta es seguir pidiendo, ¿es correcto?

[mariana] hola, buenas tardes a todos

[thedog] It is always a pleasure for me to share this time with you. Who has a question?

[jorge] Hola anamari que milagro?

[azavala] thedog> SIEMPRE ES UN PLACER PARA MI COMPARTIR ESTE TIEMPO CON USTEDES. ¿QUIEN TIENE UNA PREGUNTA?

[marianne] enrique: when it says in the second paragraph of the second chapter of cosmic secrets “and so our All maintaining endlessness decided to change the principle of the system of the functioning of both of these fundamental sacre laws …. dependet on forces coming from outside.

[renatta] ME PODRÌAN EXPLICAR POR QUE EL CENTRO EMOCIONAL SUPERIOR NO ESCAPA DEL DO DE ABAJO Y SOLO EL MENTAL SUPERIOR NO SE ENCUENTRA EN EL DO DE ABAJO?

[mariana] hola jorge como estas?

[marianne] enrique: in my case is asking,asking, asking the correct attitude with the exercises being an internal manifestation what affects me externally

[jorge] El sudar tiene tambien un efecto de limpieza emocional? ò nadamas organica.

[jorge] Bien tù?

[mauricanto] en el ejercicio de una hora en calma: me ha sucedido que los primeros 25 minutos me quedo semidormido, ya despues recontinuo con mis ejercicios sin moverme, es valido?

[marianne] renatta: can you explain to me Russ, why the higher emotional center does not escape the lower Do, and why only the higher mental center is not found in the lower DO?

[marianne] jorge: could sweating be an expression of an emotional leansing or is it just organical (physical)?

[marianne] emotional cleansing

[mariana] mi mejor momento fue el lunes,cuando retome el trabajo ya que,mariana se encontraba en un estado de consideracion interna,esta semana nada me ha impedido el realizar los ejercicios y las lecturas,y el resultado es el observar esas partes de mariana que no se quieren esforzar

[renatta] CÒMO LOGRAR QUE EL PODER DE LA FALSA PERSONALIDAD DISMINUYA, PARA QUE MI SER TOME FUERZA?

[thedog] enrique> We must eat and have air to breath and have a place to exist. We are dependent on outside forces coming together for our existence. This is to allow us to be able to create internally “a something” that is higher that the outside.

[marianne] mauricanto: in the exercise of lyiong still for 1 hour, it has happened that I am half asleep for thefirst 25 minutes and after that I continue with my exercises wihtout moving, is this valid?

[enrique] en la nota mi del libro en la pagina 40. “tes escalas, trece octavas, setenta y una vibaciones dice que para saber lo que es algo, lo debemos conocer en todas las escalas, lo q fue antes, lo q es mas alla, cuales son sus partes y de que parte ¿para que pueda saber entonces sobre de algo tengo que

[enrique] hacer tres eneagramas, y asì tener una referencia màs objetiva de lo que estoy buscando?

[azavala] thedog> enrique.- DEBEMOS COMER Y TENER AIRE PARA RESPIRAR Y TENER UN LUGAR PARA EXISTIR. DEPENDEMOS DE LAS FUERZAS EXTERIORES VINIENDO JUNTAS PARA NUESTRA EXISTENCIA. ESTO ES PARA PERMITIRNOS CREAR INTERNAMENTE “UN ALGO” QUE ES MAS ALTO QUE LO DE AFUERA.

[thedog] renatta> Si. The Enneagram is able to bring a process to LA. The Bottom Do can shove the process to LA. The TI is in contact with the Higher DO. Higher Emotional and the other four centers are a product of the lower DO…HMC, the Higher. G called it, Five against One.

[marianne] mariana: my BM was on Monday. When I returned from work I was in a state of internal considering. This week nothing has stopped me from doing the exercises and reading and the result is the observation of those parts of Mariana that do not want to do efforts.

[mauricanto] Cuando hago el ejercicio de tener mas presencia.. y de subirme a diez, experimento como la emocion asciende de la parte baja del vientre a la parte superior del pecho. Es una forma de verificar que lo estoy haciendo correctamente?

[marianne] renatta: how can I decrease the power of my false personality in order for my being to have more strength?

[thedog] Sweating is to cool the machine. I can imagine emotional stress to cause sweating, but it is not for that.

[joaquin] buenas tardes a todos ,besos y abrazos

[renatta] LA IDEA DE RE-LIGAR A MIS YOES ME CONDUCE A TRABAJAR CON ESA MULTIPLICIDAD PARA ENCONTRAR LA UNIDAD?

[thedog] mauricanto> Yes. You must be somewhat aware for the first part to recognize the second…and be present for it. Keep it up and even the first part will become the second.

[marianne] enrique: in the note MI of the book on page 40 “3 scales, 13 octaves, 61 vibrations” it says that in order to know what somehting is, we have to know it in all scales, what was before, what is further ahead, what are the parts, and the parts of parts. So if I want to do 3 enneagrams and if I want

[marianne] enrique: to have a more objective reference of what I am ooking for, wha can I knwo about this?

[azavala] thedog> renatta.- SI. EL ENEAGRAMA ES CAPAZ DE TRAER UN PROCESO A “LA”. EL DO INICIAL PUEDE EMPUJAR EL PROCESO HASTA “LA”. EL “SI” ESTA EN CONTACTO CON EL DO SUPERIOR. EL CENTRO EMOCIONAL SUPERIOR Y LOS OTROS CUATRO CENTROS SON UN PRODUCTO DE EL DO INFERIOR…EL CENTRO MENTAL SUPERIOR, EL SUPERIOR,

[thedog] mariana> Fantastic. Now just take one of them and convince him of the advantages of joining those who wis to work.

[azavala] G LO LLAMABA, CINCO CONTRA UNO.

[mariana] en el libro de secretos cosmicos,menciona que todas las cosas y todos los eventos podemos encontrar la ley de tres,en el en el harnel-aoot tambien se aplica esto? y solo trasformando se logra pasar a si aqui se aplica el harnelmiaznel?

[marianne] mauricanto: when I do the exercise of presence momentum .. and to mve up to 10, I feel as if the emotion moves up from the lower part of the stomach to the upper part of the breast. Is this a way to verify that I am doing it correctly?

[azavala] thedog> SUDAR ES BUENO PARA LA MAQUINA. PUEDO IMAGINAR QUE LA PRESION EMOCIONAL CAUSA SUDORACIÓN, PERO NO ES PARA ESO.

[marianne] renatta: the idea to regroup (to have control over) my I*s leads me to work on multiplicity in order to find unity?

[mariana] hola joaquin

[thedog] enrique> 3 scales, 13 octaves, 71 vibrations defines the middle octave in scale-1. Man is between animals and Angels. A car, between a bicycle and a plane. Even the parts of the bike evolve into the parts of the car and even to the plane. It is meant in this way.

[azavala] thedog> mauricanto.- SI, DEBES SER CONSCIENTE DE LA PRIMERA PARTE PARA RECONOCER LA SEGUNDA…Y ESTAR CONSCIENTE DE ELLA. SOSTENTAL E INCLUSO LA PRIMERA PARTE SE CONVERTIRA EN LA SEGUNDA.

[thedog] mauricanto> Yes.

[thedog] renatta> Yes

[azavala] thedog> mariana.- FANTASTICO. AHORA SÓLO TOMA UNO DE ELLOS Y CONVENCELO DE LAS VENTAJAS DE UNIRSE A AQUELLOS QUE DESEAN TRABAJAR.

[marianne] mariana: in cosmic secrets it says that we can find the law of 3 in all things and in all events. Does this apply also to the harnel aoot? Can we reach Ti only by trnsforming and is this how we apply the harnelmiaznel?

[jorge] Una sugerencia para empezar a ser imparcial?

[marianne] jorge: alguna sugerencia in order to start to be imparcial?

[thedog] mariana> The Harnel-Aoot is the interval SO-LA in an Enneagram, whic is just one interval in the growth of an octave that is the product of three forces.

[azavala] thedog> enrique.- 3 ESCALAS, 13 OCTAVAS, 71 VIBRACIONES DEFINEN LA OCTAVA MEDIA EN LA ESCALA-1. EL HOMBRE ESTA ENTRE LOS ANIMALES Y LOS ANGELES. UN AUTOMOVIL ESTA ENTRE UNA BICICLETA Y UN AEROPLANO. INCLUSO LAS PARTES DE LA BICICLETA EVOLUCIONAN HACIA LAS PARTES DEL AUTO E INCLUSO A LAS PARTES DEL

[azavala] AVION. QUIERO DECIR, EN ESTE CAMINO.

[azavala] thedog> mariana.- EL HARNEL-AOOT ES EL INTERVALO SO-LA EN UN ENEAGRAMA, EL CUAL ES JUSTAMENTE UN INTERVALO EN EL CRECIMIENTO DE UNA OCTAVA QUE ES EL PRODUCTO DE TRES FUERZAS.

[marianne] mi computer will shut down. So T say bye and thanks

[renatta] ME PUEDES DAR UN EJEMPLO DE LA DIFERENCIA ENTRE CRISIS Y HARNEL AOOT?

[enrique] Ok. I need study. thanks Russ

[thedog] marianne> Harnel Miaztnel is the process of movement from Do to Re to Mi. Then you need another force to enter and help you to Fa, then Harnel Miatznel goes from Fa to So to La to Ti where an inner force is needed for completion. Also needed, is another force to join the process at So.

[thedog]>[marianne] I love you. Thank for being who you are.

[azavala] renatta> thedog.- CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE BETWEEN CRISIS AND HARNEL AOOT?

[thedog] renatta> Crisis is when you don’t use the enneagram. Harnel-Aoot is just a place within it whne you do.

[jorge] Como empezar a ser imparcial?

[thedog] Great Chat. Thank you all for being here. See you next week. Love to you all from Pamela and I.

[mauricanto] Thanks Ruu

[mauricanto] Russ

[azavala] thedog> mariana.- HARNEL MIAZTNEL ES EL PROCESO DE MOVIMIENTO DE DO A RE A MI. ENTONCES NECESITAS OTRA FUERZA QUE ENTRE Y AYUDE A FA, ENTONCES HARNEL MIATZNEL VA DE FA A SOL A LA A SI DONDE UNA FUERZA INTERNA ES NECESARIA PARA COMPLETAR LA OCTAVA. TAMBIÉN SE NECESITA QUE SE UNA OTRA FUERZA PARA

[azavala] COMPLETAR EL PROCESO EN SOL.

[Verónica] Thanks Russ for your love and all…

[mariana] gracias,russ,gracias a todos

[jorge] Thanks Russell. greetins to Pamela.

[mauricanto] Gracias a todos, Greetings to Pamela-

[azavala] thedog> renatta.- CRISIS ES CUANDO NO USAS EL ENEAGRAMA Y HARNEL AOOT ES SOLO UN LUGAR DENTRO DEL ENEAGRAMA DONDE TU “HACES”

[thedog] carlosc> Great to see you here each week.

[Verónica] Buenas noches, queridos hermanos en el Trabajo. Gracias a Alfonso y a Marianne por su compartir. Un beso para todos los vallartenses.

[jorge] Gracias Joaquìn.

[azavala] thedog> EXCELENTE CHAT. GRACIAS A TODOS POR ESTAR AQUÍ. LOS VEO LA PROXIMA SEMANA. AMOR A TODOS DE PAMELA Y DE MI.

[enrique] Gracias a todos nos vemos.

[thedog] Love to all. DOG GONE Bye

[azavala] thedog> carlosc.- ES GRANDIOSO VERTE AQUI CADA SEMANA.

[mauricanto] joaquin>Arrivederchi

[joaquin] gusto en estar con uds.adios

[azavala] thedog> AMOR A TODOS. EL PERRO SE FUE. BY.

[jorge] Gracias a los traductores. Y HASTA LUEGO A TODOS.

[carlosc] Gracias a todos por compartir I see all friends the next week THANKS RUSS

[azavala] BUENAS NOCHES Y DULCES SUEÑOS!!!!! BY.

[jorge] Bay Vero.

[renatta] GRACIAS A TODOS, UN BESO JOAQUIN SALUDOS A CLAUDIA Y A TODOS POR ALLA, HASTA EL LUNES A LOS DE ACA, BESOS

[Verónica] Joaquin> revisa porfas tu correo, ya te envie lo que me pediste. Ciao. saludos a Claus y a los ninios.

England/America

[Tony] Hello

[thedog] Share the EXERCISE you did most this week; how many times did you do it; what were your results; how will you improve on your efforts for next week.

[thedog] Tony> Hi Tony.

[thedog] My exercise this week was picking a center every time I left the house. I had a sense of being much taller than myself. My head seemed to be up at the top of the trees and I was looking down. Next week I’ll try to see the tops of the trees.

[Tony] thedog> I AM and 3 Fold Attention

[Tony] thedog> I did them about 6 times each and had ‘highs’ from doing them and can improve by setting time aside and not rushing them.

[thedog] Best Moment: Angela has been reading Cosmic Secrets as Mr. P instructed. This week she was doing CH 4 and found the oscillations on her own–the whole kaboodle–and was very excited. She said she had read it before..but this time she saw that “it was brilliant”

[Tony] Also by taking oppertunities to do them when the oppertunities present themselves, rather than say I do them later.

[thedog] Tony> Imagine if 6 times giv you “highs”, what 60 times would do!

[Tony] thedog> Best Moment: The energy in class.

[thedog] Ya’ll are a lively bunch

[thedog] Tony> Great Tony. Give me a bit of what you observed.

[thedog] jperrott> Are you with us?

[thedog] stevew> Are you with us?

[Tony] thedog> As soon as I sat down I felt waves that took me to a very centered place.

[stevew] thedog> Yes.

[Tony] centred

[thedog] stevew> Share the EXERCISE you did most this week; how many times did you do it; what were your results; how will you improve on your efforts for next week…or your Best Moment.

[thedog] Tony> ‘centered’ is ‘right’ American

[Tony] thedog> I am not dyslexic in America!

[thedog] Tony> Yeah!

[jperrott] Sorry to be late in joining,! I’ve had a hard day with AOL (lost our address-books) with the result that dinner was late.

[jperrott] So, (as they say in Texas) what’s up?

[thedog] jperrott> Sorry for the hassles of the day for you, but glad you at least got you dinner

[Tony] thedog> The ‘dying’ exercise gave me a very different perspective on life.

[jperrott] thedog> It was fish – hake – s’marvellous!

[thedog] Tony> Great tool. Use it well.

[stevew] thedog> Most frequent exercise (apart from presence momentum) was three-fold attention; probably only around 4 or 5 times; creates a bigger centre of gravity for a while; need to review direction.

[thedog] Update: New house going up this week. Tanya (Scott’s Wife) is pregnant. James and Alejandra got married again (American cermony) yesterday…upstairs . Ponds are still full and overflowing (unusual for this time of year).

[jperrott] thedog> Wow! Everything seems full to overflowing!

[scrivs] ‘Nang.

[jperrott] scrivs> pong!

[Tony] scrivs> Hi Ken

[thedog] jperrott> Except my beer cup. It always has to be refilled.

[thedog] scrivs> Share the EXERCISE you did most this week; how many times did you do it; what were your results; how will you improve on your efforts for next week…or your Best Moment.

[jperrott] thedog> …until “lamp-shade” time, I believe!

[thedog] jperrott> jajajajajajaja Ha!

[scrivs] Tony> Ho! Tony.

[thedog] Any Questions … or is JP doing such a good job, he has already answered them.

[jperrott] BM My # 2 daughter, Jane, is with us at the moment. Dealing with a drug-abusing son might have destoyed her but, I’m glad to see and say, she’s blossoming after only 3 days with us – so she’s clearly doing a good job!

[scrivs] thedog> Memorising. Done a page of Views. The facility seemed to be evaporating-so there gad to be a greater effort. That plus presence momentum sveral times , but no count.

[thedog] scrivs> Even a couple times counts…although only a couple times.

[Tony] thedog> How can one be critical if there always is the other end of the stick?

[jperrott] thedog>

[thedog] jperrott> Is Jane going through Cosmic Secrets? If so, Yeah!

[jperrott] thedog> If you mean, with me during this visit, no! But, if you mean, in general, Yes!

[thedog] Tony> You only have to be critical until you can hold both ends equally. Being critical is when you only are able to hold one.

[thedog] jperrott> It is just a visit, not the ten day April Fools journey?

[jperrott] thedog> That’s right. I imvcited her here for any “running repairs” that might be necessary.

[thedog] jperrott> You are my Hero.

[jperrott] thedog> The Yeovil class are “covering for her” as necessary – now tht Ben is back in hospital.

[thedog] jperrott> Ouch.

[jperrott] thedog> Kind of you – but, in reality, I’m just an Ordinary Idiot!

[Tony] thedog> I don’t get #27 in that case?

[scrivs] jperrott> With good fortune we should be chez vous this upcoming Saturday.

[jperrott] scrivs> Good to here – I’m missing you already!

[thedog] Well my friends, as we are only an assembled ‘few’ and as Tony said, ” Best Moment: The energy in class. As soon as I sat down I felt waves that took me to a very centred place”. So if there are no questions, I’ll let you all get to bed early…if you wish.

[jperrott] s ‘here/hear!

[thedog] Tony> At the beginning, you need a critical mind, in order to find out what is truth. If you follow blindly, it doesn’t even serve God.

[scrivs] jperrott> That’s the 2nd time I’ve heard that in all my born days !!

[jperrott] He might just be bored! Anyone want to change that?

[scrivs] This too shall pass.

[jperrott] …thedog, that is!

[thedog] egocrat> Hello egocrat! Who are you and where in the world are you joining us from?

[egocrat] hi the midwest u.s sad to say

[egocrat] im a joe

[jperrott] egocrat> Is that a joe – in the sense of a jo-ee?

[egocrat] nah just a joe

[egocrat] all is well i hope

[jperrott] egocrat> O.K. (I think).

[thedog] egocrat> Welcome Joe! Are you currently studying the Fourth Way?

[egocrat] tis hard to find people with these interests and questions around here

[jperrott] egocrat> So, as the man said, how’dya find your way here?

[egocrat] I have been working with the texts since 1992 or so

[thedog] egocrat> If you are, we have schools in Texas, England, and Mexico.

[egocrat] recently cosidered group work with people in lexington ky but still considering

[egocrat] at an impasse texts no good alone

[egocrat] action and experience

[thedog] egocrat> I used to live in Lexington. Nice country. Glad you could join us.

[egocrat] been watching this site for awhile glad to see a chat posted

[egocrat] thnks

[thedog] Any other questions?

[egocrat] uuummm..

[egocrat] working with maintaining a balance between inner and outer life

[thedog] egocrat> If you check the web page http://www.thedogpub.com there is a section about our school. Next comes the purchase of my book – $$$$. Then, after that, who knows.

[egocrat] trying to not manifest in a negative way

[egocrat] but rather stand in awareness as it occurs and not identify

[egocrat] yes i have been wanting your book for some time

[egocrat] read all bennets stuff and of course gurdjieff’s so pleased to find this today

[thedog] egocrat> jperrott was a student of Mr. Bennett.

[egocrat] thats is awesome

[egocrat] bennett has definately helped clarify some stuff for me

[egocrat] im under guidence now with a sufi teacher

[egocrat] but it is hard and can be painful to look at yourself

[egocrat] then one must act upon the observation as we cant unsee

[egocrat] trying hard to manifest and i will be ordering your book as well

[jperrott] egocrat> It’s always seemed to me that “forgetting” is endemic!

[egocrat] manifest in a new way as opposed to the old

[thedog] egocrat> What man lacks is understanding of how to manifest the journey. Here we learn the Rules. You need God if you have no rules.

[egocrat] yes forgetting is a funny way to hide

[egocrat] yes

[thedog] egocrat> But with rules, the game is not that hard to play.

[egocrat] start with small aim,…??work tomake room for grace

[thedog] egocrat> jperrott was also sufi.

[egocrat] really?…

[egocrat] I did not know

[egocrat] i am a musician and studied theology and philosophy

[egocrat] hence i tend to live in head brain entirely toooo much

[egocrat] no good at all

[thedog] 4 minutes let for the chat. Make em’ good

[egocrat] god is too far away or too close??both…?

[thedog] egocrat> My book is based on music. I think you will be in a chord with it.

[jperrott] thedog> A-a-a-rgh!

[thedog] egocrat> You only need God, if there are no rules.

[egocrat] awright…that is definately a good thing

[thedog] That is it guys. The hour is up. See you all next week. Love THE DOG

[egocrat] yes thanks and god bless….

[jperrott] Dong! My message is ready; Love and best wishes to you all! l

[thedog] egocrat> Thanks for joining in, come back next Sunday, if you wish.

[thedog] DOG GONE

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