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25 July 2006 at 3:34 pm #17292
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Participant12:06:45 [MigueAngel] Another Best Moment was giving a second April Fools exercise to Javier and observing his recovering from losing his honey moon.
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12:06:55 [thedog] Everyone should be attentive when they join our chat and to make sure you are in thge Study House rom. Thank you
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12:07:17 [MigueAngel] Mariana 2 BM: on Thursday meeting, observing Mariana´s inexactitudes not attached.
12:07:26 [azavala] MigueAngel> OTRO DE MIS MEJORES MOMENTOS FUE DAR A JAVIER UN SEGUNDO APRIL FOOLS Y OBSERVARLO RECOBRAR SU PERDIDA LUNA DE MIEL.
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12:07:28 [claudia] Buenos Días a todos
12:07:33 [Verónica] Uno de mis mejores momentos fue ayer al estar haciendo mi ejercicio de memorización y encontrar una nueva forma para hacerlo y me resulto de maravilla, memoricé más que otras veces
12:07:50 [juanpablo] buenos dias a todos
12:08:14 [azavala] thedog> TODOS DEBERIAMOS ESTAR ATENTOS AL INGRESAR AL CHAT Y ESTAR SEGUROS DE QUE ESTAMOS EN EL STUDY HOUSE.- GRACIAS.
12:08:22 [MigueAngel] Verónica´s BM: yesterday doing my memory exercise and finding a new way to do it and resulting wonderful. I memorized more than ever.
12:08:24 [claudia] Mi mejor momento fue el martes al llegar a mi la comprensión de que aunque trabaje interiormente mi entorno no lo puedo cambiar
12:08:55 [thedog] Verónica> :0
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12:09:15 [MigueAngel] Claudia´s BM: on Tuesday receiving the understanding that even working innerly, my environment I can not change.
12:09:19 [renatta] Hola a todos buenos dìas, mis mejores momentos han sido seguir memorizando y darme cuenta que si puedo cumplir metas pequeñas.
12:09:48 [juanpablo] uno de mis mejores momentos fue el poder hacer mis ejercicios aun estando de vacaciones , ya que se ha convertido en un estilo de vida
12:09:56 [MigueAngel] Renatta´s BM: continuing memorizing and realizing I can fulfill small aims.
12:10:28 [MigueAngel] Juan Pablo´s BM: to be able to do my exercises even on holydays, and this is because they have becom a life style.
12:10:50 [thedog] Best Moment: Having Miguel here for the week. ;D
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12:11:25 [Verónica] Otro mejor momento fue el jueves al tomar asiento en el trolebus y ver a una persona… y verme reflejada en él… me sorprendió pero sin etiquetar el evento
12:11:47 [thedog] claudia>
12:12:05 [thedog] juanpablo>
12:12:21 [MigueAngel] Verónica´s another BM: on Thursday taking a sit at the bus and viewing a person and feeling reflected by him.. I got surprised but without labeling the event.
12:12:29 [azavala] thedog> MI MEJOR MOMENTO: TENER A MIGUEL ANGEL AQUÌ ESTA SEMANA.
12:12:36 [claudia] otros mejores momentos fueron al darme cuenta de algunas fricciones que acechaban y haberlas cambiado por sandías
12:13:13 [MigueAngel] Claudia´s more
12:13:40 [MigueAngel] BM: realizing some frictions and being able to change them into watermelons.
12:14:01 [carmen] buen dia a todos! mi mejor momento duro casi todo el dia de ayer, .fue el sentir, entender lo que significa el tomar la parte buena del aire, el entender que la ENERGIA necesaria para la vida no solo la del cuerpo fisico esta disponible, rodeandome, vivo entre ella, soy parte de ella y que solo
12:14:56 [mariana2] una pregunta han llegado momentos en los que yoes no tienen el interes por el trabajo ,pero hay otro grupo que sabe que lo tiene que hacer y lo hace, no hay lucha ,ni juicios ,pero falta el entusiasmo por el trabajo como llamarle a esto ?
12:15:35 [carmen] me basta aprovecharla concientemente..me lleno de un sentiminto de gratitud, esperanza..felicidad..
12:16:25 [MigueAngel] Carmen: My BM lasted almost all day long yesterday. It was feeling, understanding the meaning of taking the good part of air; understanding that the ENERGY necessary for life not just the body´s one is available, surrounding me and I live in it, I am part of it and I just need to take advantage
12:16:53 [MigueAngel] consciously. I felt full of a feeling of gratitud, hope and happiness
12:16:55 [jorge] En la vida es real cuando Yo soy ,G. Comenta acerca del aire que contiene una multitud de particularidades y que debemos saber acerca de cierta que era secreta para los iniciados y dice esta particularidad es que ….. A que se refiere G.?
12:18:30 [claudia] cuando el cuerpo físico muere es conveniente cremarlo o enterrarlo? La cremación afecta algúnproceso?
12:18:46 [thedog] After Best Moments … Who has a question?
12:18:59 [MigueAngel] Jorge´s Question: In life is Real when I am. G comments about air, that it contains a multitud of particularities and we must know the secret one for the iniciates… what did he mean?
12:19:03 [renatta] En el cap. de còmo ganar atenciòn se menciona a los deseos y a los no-deseos que pueden volverse positivos o negativos ¿a que se refiere con esto?.
12:19:18 [azavala] thedog> DESPUÈS DE SUS MEJORES MOMENTOS….¿QUIÈN TIENE PREGUNTAS?
12:20:15 [MigueAngel] Claudia´s Question: When the physical body dies, is it convenient to cremate it or bury it? cremation afects any process?
12:21:20 [MigueAngel] Renatta´s Question: In how can we gain attention´s chapter, it is mentioned "wishes" and non-wishes and that they can become possitive or negative, what is the meaning of this?
12:23:22 [juanpablo] si uno se cristaliza y despues del cuerpo fisico se sigue adelante ,que toma el lugar de los cinco sentidos ? ya que estos pertenesen al cuerpo fisico!
12:23:32 [mariana2] [mariana2] una pregunta han llegado momentos en los que yoes no tienen el interes por el trabajo ,pero hay otro grupo que sabe que lo tiene que hacer y lo hace, no hay lucha ,ni juicios ,pero falta el entusiasmo por el trabajo como llamarle a esto ?
12:23:44 [thedog] jorge> Air has many particles. If we are conscious, we can take in more. Yet, G used air as a simily to Astral matter .. so to take in the beauty of things, to look passed their exterior form and love them for what they are is also taking in the right stuff.
12:24:16 [MigueAngel] Juan Pablo´s Question: if one crystalize and we continue after the physical body, what takes place instead of the five senses?
12:24:36 [Verónica] Estuve leyendo Psicología de la posible evolución… y en la segunda conferencia habla sobre Qué es mentir… También explica "la identificación" "la imaginación" etc (como sustantivo) pero también explica "identificarse, imaginar, etc". (como verbo), sin embargo no me queda claro, qué es
12:24:46 [Verónica] "la mentira" como sustantivo y no como verbo
12:25:13 [claudia] La energía que se crea mediante los ejercicios y que logra pasar de "SI" a "DO" es lo que va a llenar los cuerpos superiores o lo que a crearlos?
12:25:51 [claudia] *lo que va a crearlos}
12:25:54 [thedog] claudia> No. What happens to the body after death doesn’t matter.
12:25:58 [MigueAngel] Mariana´s Question: there are moments in which the "I´s " don´t have any interest in the work, but there is another group that knows what to do and it does it. There is not struggle, nor judgments, but a lack of enthusiasm to the work, how can we call this?
12:26:47 [jorge] En la quinta platica de este libro ,casi al final de esta comenta que èl ya tiene un Yo subjetivo completamente definido. a que se refiere con este comentario?. a su maquina?
12:27:15 [MigueAngel] Verónica: I was investigating still about the meaning of the word "lie" as a substantive, not as the verb lying, and i am not clear yet.
12:28:03 [thedog] renatta> The motive behind them can be positive or negative. I can wish someone great happiness or I can wish that they will suffer.
12:28:21 [MigueAngel] Claudia: the energy created thanks to the exercises and that it succeed in going through "Ti" to "DO" is what is going to fill up higher bodies or is it going to create them?
12:29:41 [MigueAngel] Jorge´s Question: in the fifth conference by Ouspensky, almost the end, he comments that he has already a subjective "I" completely defined; what is he meaning? is he meaning his machine?
12:30:51 [azavala] thedog> jorge.- EL AIRE TIENE MUCHAS PARTÌCULAS. SI ESTAMOS CONSCIENTES, PODEMOS INTRODUCIR MÀS. SIN EMBARGO, GURDJIEFF UTILIZABA EL AIRE COMO UN SIMIL DE LA MATERIA ASTRAL…….ASI QUE TOMÀNDOLO EN LA BELLEZA DE LAS COSAS, IGNORAR SU FORMA EXTERIOR Y AMARLOS POR LO QUE ELLOS SON ES TOMARLO
12:31:00 [azavala] TAMBIÈN EN LA FORMA CORRECTA.
12:31:05 [renatta] ¿còmo defino ese pequeño instante en que el centro motriz dispara una emociòn negativa? ¿què sucede en ese lapso en que la emociòn ya se encuentra ahì y algunas veces no se contiene?.
12:31:38 [azavala] thedog> claudia.- NO. LO QUE LE SUCEDE AL CUERPO DESPUÈS DE LA MUERTE NO TIENE IMPORTANCIA.
12:32:58 [MigueAngel] Renatta´s Question: How do I define that little instant in which the moving center triggers a negative emotion? what happens in that lapse in which the emotion is there and sometimes I can´t contain it?
12:33:07 [thedog] MigueAngel> That is a great question. How did all the angels know when to sing? Direct knowing without sensing. In quantum theory. Two connected particles are separated, the when one switches polarity so does the other … no matter how far away they are. As if there is a connected wholeness.
12:33:27 [azavala] thedog> renatta.- EL MOTIVO DETRÀS DE ELLOS PUEDE SER POSITIVO O NEGATIVO. YO PUEDO DESEAR GRAN FELICIDAD PARA ALGUIEN O PUEDO DESEAR QUE ELLOS SUFRAN.
12:35:03 [mariana2] como empezar a trabajar el apego hacia una persona ?podria ser el alejarse de ella ?
12:35:32 [thedog] MigueAngel> Normal. Pushes and pauses. Some I’s have other intresets. Some will realize the value of the work later. Just keep working with the ones that want to work and be tolerant and compassionate to the ones whom do not.
12:36:13 [juanpablo] en base a las emociones negativas estas ya an sido creadas en nuestra infancia y solo se busca el pretexto para sacarlas ,o aun hoy en dia se crean nuevas?
12:36:25 [claudia] Cuando me siento más suceptible a enojarme o llorar es un momento de oscilación en el cual hay una cantidad mayor de energía a transformar? por decirlo así, que se a acumulado?
12:36:38 [MigueAngel] Abusados… esta respondiendo como si yo hiciera las preguntas… observen cual es la suya. La primera es de Juan Pablo
12:37:13 [MigueAngel] La segunda es de Mariana
12:37:32 [azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- ESA ES UNA GRAN PREGUNTA. ¿CÒMO SABEN TODOS LOS ANGELES CUÀNDO CANTAR? CONOCIMIENTO DIRECTO SIN SENSACIÒN. EN LA TEORÌA CUÀNTICA, DOS PARTÌCULAS CONECTADAS ESTÀN AL MISMO TIEMPO SEPARADAS, CUANDO UNA CAMBIA SU POLARIDAD IGUALMENTE LO CAMBIA LA OTRA….NO IMPORTA CUAN ALEJADAS
12:37:47 [azavala] ESTEN. ES COMO SI ESTUVIERAN CONECTADAS A LA TOTALIDAD.
12:37:53 [MigueAngel]>[thedog] You are answering under my name… the first one was Juan Pablos´s question and the second one Mariana´s
12:38:29 [thedog] Verónica> In English it can be a noun or a verb but neither changes the meaning. "I told a lie", or "I lied" … both mean the same thing
12:39:36 [MigueAngel] Juan Pablos´s Question: based on the negative emotions, are they already created since our childhood and it is just pretext we need to let them explote or are we even today creating new ones?
12:39:54 [azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- NORMAL. IMPULSOS Y PAUSAS. ALGUNOS YOES TIENEN OTROS INTERESES. ALGUNOS COMPRENDERÀN MÀS TARDE EL VALOR DEL TRABAJO. SÒLO MANTÈNTE TRABAJANDO CON EL QUE QUIERE TRABAJAR Y SE TOLERANTE Y COMPASIVO CON AQUELLOS QUE NO QUIEREN.
12:40:14 [thedog] claudia> All 3 bodies are forming at the same time, so it is more about creating inner conditions that allows them to become completed.
12:40:41 [jorge] A que se refiere G. cuando comenta en el mismo libro y en el cap. el mundo interior y exterior del hombre con comtemplaciòn?
12:40:51 [MigueAngel] Claudia´s Question: when i feel more suceptible to get angry and cry is it an oscillation moment in which there is more energy to transform and acumulated?
12:41:38 [azavala] thedog> Verónica.- EN INGLÈS PUEDE SER UN SUSTANTIVO O UN VERBO, PERO NO CAMBIA EL SIGNIFICADO. "YO DIJE UNA MENTIRA" O "YO MENTÌ"….AMBAS SIGNIFICAN LA MISMA COSA.
12:41:47 [thedog] jorge> Yes.
12:42:58 [azavala] thedog> claudia.- LOS TRES CUERPOS ESTÀN SIENDO FORMADOS AL MISMO TIEMPO, ASÌ QUE ES MÀS ACERCA DE CREAR CONDICIONES INTERIORES QUE LES PERMITAN A LOS CUERPOS SER COMPLETADOS.
12:44:24 [claudia] Quieres decir que entonces los cuerpos ahí están, sólo es cuestión de alimentarlos?
12:44:34 [MigueAngel] Russ: could we say that a lie is the wish to hide ourselves? the wish to keep untouched our comfort zone? the wish to not change our inexactitudes?
12:45:29 [MigueAngel] Claudia´s Question: you mean that the bodies, being there, it is just a matter of feeding them?
12:45:41 [thedog] renatta> Emotions are very fast and, quite often, hard to contain. Try to see what triggered them. Then when they are not there, try to create in yourself a something that will either stop them from getting out or be able to harness them if they do.
12:46:35 [thedog]>[MigueAngel] tell alfonso. he’s the one translating
12:46:38 [azavala] MigueAngel> thedog.- ¿PODEMOS DECIR QUE UNA MENTIRA ES EL DESEO DE ESCONDERNOS A NOSOTROS MISMOS? ¿EL DESEO DE MANTENER SIN TOCAR NUESTRA ZONA DE CONFORT? ¿EL DESEO DE NO CAMBIAR NUESTRAS INEXACTITUDES?.
12:48:16 [jorge] El Yo de un h. real representa el conjunto de funciones de su psiquismo general cuyos factores se originan en los resultados de la contemplaciòn, que quiere decir?
12:48:48 [MigueAngel]>[thedog] ok, I already tell them how to read them. no problem
12:50:11 [thedog] juanpablo> Both can happen. Many were created in our youth and some can even be created today. Man can be influenced by suggestion, form, relationship, and superiority. These influences can create a negativity in him … even tomorrow.
12:50:21 [azavala] thedog> renatta.- LAS EMOCIONES SON MUY RÀPIDAS Y CON FRECUENCIA DIFÌCILES DE CONTENER. TRATA DE VER QUÈ LAS DISPARA. ENTONCES CUANDO ELLAS NO ESTÈN AHÌ TRATA DE CREAR EN TÌ MISMA ALGO QUE DETENGA SU EXPRESIÒN O QUE SEA CAPAZ DE HACERLAS INOFENSIVAS SI SE EXPRESAN.
12:50:48 [MigueAngel] Jorge: What is the meaning of this: "the I of a real man represents the set of functins in his general psique which factors are originated in the results of contemplation." ???
12:51:46 [thedog] claudia> Perhaps, something got your horse running. Either you direct the force or allow it to pull you where it wishes to go.
12:52:06 [azavala] O APROVECHAR SU FUERZA SI SE ESCAPAN.
12:53:55 [thedog] MigueAngel> More perhaps a buffer to hide behind so I do not believe that I need to change.
12:54:35 [azavala] thedog> juanpablo.- AMBAS PUEDEN OCURRIR. MUCHAS SON CREADAS EN NUESTRA JUVENTUD Y ALGUNAS INCLUSO PUEDEN HABER SIDO CREADAS HOY. EL HOMBRE PUEDE SER INFLUENCIADO POR SUGESTIÒN, FORMAS, RELACIONES Y SUPERIORIDAD. ESTAS INFLUENCIAS PUEDEN CREAR NEGATIVIDAD EN EL….INCLUSO PARA MAÑANA.
12:54:41 [thedog] claudia> tes. Creating proper inner conditions for ther embronic and adolecent growth
12:54:59 [renatta] ¿còmo aprovechar su fuerza si se escapan? una forma serìa tenerlo presente para que no vuelva a repetirse y saber lo que tengo que hacer cuando se vuelva a presentar esa emociòn?
12:56:16 [MigueAngel] Renatta´s Question: how to take advantage of the strength of emotions if they escape? a way would be to have it in mind in order for this not to repeat and to know what to do when it comes again?
12:56:49 [azavala] thedog> claudia.- QUIZÀ ALGO MANTIENE A TU CABALLO CORRIENDO. IGUAL TÙ DIRIGES LA FUERZA O PERMITES QUE TE JALE A DONDE DESEAS IR.
12:57:33 [thedog] jorge> His contemplation is akin to seeing all the possibilities. Then, he will be able to manifest all his parts for a single purpose.
12:58:06 [azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- MÀS QUIZÀ UN AMORTIGUADOR PARA ESCONDER ASÌ QUE YO NO CREO QUE NECESITE CAMBIAR.
12:58:21 [mariana2] [mariana2] como empezar a trabajar el apego hacia una persona ?podria ser el alejarse de ella ?
12:59:20 [jorge] Cuando sera la reunion de dobles?
12:59:23 [thedog] renatta> Yes. It is possible to use the strong emotional force for self-rembering, if I can direct it there.
12:59:35 [azavala] thedog> claudia.- SÌ. CREANDO CONDICIONES INTERNAS PROPIAS PARA EL CRECIMIENTO EMBRIONARIO Y ADOLESCENTE.
13:00:31 [thedog] DING DING DING. Great Hour. Glad to have you all here each week. I look forward to being with you next Saturday. Love to each and every one
13:00:45 [MigueAngel] Mariana´s Question: how to start working on the feeling of being attached to a person? could it be to go away from her?
13:00:51 [juanpablo] gracias a todos
13:01:04 [juanpablo] thanks russ
13:01:04 [Verónica] Thanks Russ mi precioso
13:01:18 [MigueAngel] Jorge´s Question: when is it going to be our Doucles chat?
13:01:24 [MigueAngel] Doubles’
13:01:40 [jorge] Gracias a todos por compartir la enseñanza.
13:02:12 [claudia] Gracias Russ, Miguel Angel, Alfonso por hacer posible esta hora.
13:02:30 [MigueAngel] Voy a platicar con Russ para que sea la proxima semana
13:02:32 [james] Hasta Luego!
13:02:37 [claudia] Gracias a todos, saludos México y Sanger
13:02:41 [MigueAngel] Adios a todos… bye
13:02:42 [jorge] Vay GRACIAS.
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13:02:49 [renatta] Gracias a todos por su presencia, saludos a todos.
13:02:57 [azavala] thedog> jorge.- SU CONTEMPLACIÒN ES SEMEJANTE A VER JUNTAS TODAS LAS POSIBILIDADES. ENTONCES, ÈL SERÀ CAPAZ DE MANIFESTAR TODAS SUS PARTES PARA UN SOLO PROPÒSITO.
13:02:59 [thedog] mariana2> It is hard to answer. We want to be free (non-attached) inside. Absence can achieve that, but so can non-identification. Try both.
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13:03:25 [thedog] jorge> Check with Miguel. That is his call.
13:03:44 [azavala] thedog> renatta.- SÌ. ES POSIBLE USAR LAS EMOCIONES FUERTES PARA RECORDARSE A SÌ MISMO. SI PUEDO DIRIGIRLAS HACIA ALLÀ.
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13:04:43 [azavala] thedog> UNA GRAN HORA.- ESTOY CONTENTO DE TENERLOS AQUÌ CADA SEMANA. LOS VERÈ EL PRÒXIMO SÀBADO. LOS AMO A TODOS Y CADA UNO DE UDS.
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13:06:04 [carmen] un abrazo con mucho amor para cada uno..hasta el proximo
13:06:16 [azavala] thedog> mariana2.- ES DIFÌCIL DE CONTESTAR. NOSOTROS QUEREMOS SER LIBRES (NO ATADOS) INTERIORMENTE. LA AUSENCIA PUEDE LOGRAR ESO, PERO TAMBIÈN LA NO IDENTIFICACIÒN. INTENTA AMBOS.
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13:06:48 [alejandra] Hasta El Lunes en el Chat!
13:06:50 [azavala] thedog> JORGE.- CHÈCALO CON MIGUEL. ESA ES SU LLAMADA.
13:06:57 [mariana2] gracias a todos
13:07:03 [Verónica] Besos y abrazos para todos… nos vemos el proximo lunes o el sábado…
13:08:11 [azavala] FELIZ FIN DE SEMANA.- HAPPY WEEKEND!!!!!
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13:09:23 [azavala] TO/mariana2 SIEMPRE ES UN PLACER.- GRACIAS POR TU TRABAJO.- BY, BY!!!
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15:54:49 [thedog] Best Moments
15:56:16 [thedog] Beat Moment: Yesterday after April Fools, when the new awakened being could only look at me and say, "who’ld have thunk"
16:00:14 [thedog] Best Moment 2: Brecieving a letter from Richard Dunne, expressing his appreciation for my work and for the guidance he received from JEP. Thanks and welcome, Richard, to a new world.
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16:02:09 [thedog] Best Moment 3: Alexey, in class today, and his sincere expression of seeing truth of his life. Alexet will recieve the Double or Nothing exercise later doday. Congratz Alexey
16:02:27 gary enters this room
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16:02:46 alison enters this room
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16:03:10 [gary] Evening Dogs!
16:03:33 [thedog] Howdy Mr. Beer
16:04:21 stephen enters this room
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16:05:33 [jperrott] B.M. Richard Dunne – following both his A.F. and next morning.
16:06:08 [jperrott]>[thedog] Mr Beer has rejoined our class today!
16:06:54 [stephen] Best moment: hearing how excited and happy russell was with my work on the computer boardgame
16:06:56 [thedog] Best Moment 4: A few minutes ago when Stephen informed me that the Conscious Board Game was no 99.99% complete with most of the bells and whistles as an on line computer game and I played a game and it all worked perfectly. Go to Stephenchudleigh.com to download it.
16:07:24 [thedog]>[jperrott] kiss kiss yee-Haw
16:07:31 [alison] BM Reaching the end of a 12 year obligation when my ‘surrogate’ daughter married on Friday – it was no longer a requirement that I ‘watch out for her’ and another ‘guy rope’ was snipped
16:07:42 [stephen] … and is
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16:08:14 [gary] BM Juliet and I resolved a sensitive issue that had arisen between our children and a friend of theirs – this enabled Jordan to tell the truth and Aisha to hug Jordan! Wonderful stuff!
16:08:55 [jperrott] gary>
16:08:55 [scrivs] Ning All!
16:09:03 [thedog] gary> Bravo to you for your guidance !!!
16:09:09 [alison] BM When Richard, after April Fools, noticed me. He said ‘your hair is different’.. ‘your glasses are different’… They were not – he however was
16:09:36 [thedog] alison> lol
16:09:39 [jperrott] alison>
16:09:42 [Tony] B.M. The transformative effect, for me, of class today.
16:10:59 mike enters this room
16:11:01 [thedog] Best Moment 5: Last night when our guild guys in WoW changed our guild name for our Horde toons to "Rednek Jihad" What a hoot!!
16:11:02 [jperrott] Tony> Only he receives who pays in advance!
16:12:05 [gary] jperrott> Thanks for excepting me – I will draw up a programme!
16:14:04 [jperrott] ‘Excepting’ s what you did to yourself; ‘accepting’ is what happened today!
16:14:48 [thedog] Best Moment 6: Knowing that the English students are like Allstate Insurance … your in good hands.
16:14:57 [scrivs] thedog> Just 10 minutes ago getting an insight into how to solve thequ. of putting the elements on that graph. There are still anomalies tho’.
16:15:00 [gary] jperrott> oops!
16:15:52 [alison] BM It was a delight to see Richard struggle between what he had always ‘known’ and what he saw the possibility of owning. Such a delight that he came down on the side of ownership.
16:16:05 [jperrott] gary> Never worry abou t your errors – as long as you always learn from them. Succes is difficult to learn from – mostly, it simply happens!
16:17:16 [scrivs] alison> He who kisses a Joy as it flies lives in eternities sunrise.
16:17:29 [alison] mike> Evening.
16:17:43 [mike] BM: seeing that supermarkets and the perceived bad manners of others are good training against the click whirr response of the FP
16:17:47 [thedog] Best Moment 7: The depth of the students memory work in class. T’was like sitting in a Gurdjieff lecture.
16:18:10 [mike] alison> evening dear
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16:18:46 [jperrott] mike>
16:18:53 [scrivs] thedog> That is surely the way it should be!
16:19:22 [alison] mike> 🙂
16:19:26 [thedog] OMG, he must be awake … he actually signed in by name.
16:19:33 [richard] hi everyone
16:19:56 [jperrott] richard>
16:19:58 [alison] richard> Greetings friend
16:20:28 [mike] richard> hiya pal
16:20:31 [scrivs] jperrott> After years of defering to KP’s superior intellect , there was /is some residual stuff. Hence the hesitation/consideration. I suggest.
16:21:00 [richard] B.M. Having the realisation that I need not stress on things
16:21:38 [thedog] Scroll up to see previous chat or do /last 100 to see any you can’t scroll up to
16:22:19 [mike] jperrott> john, are you up this end next weekend or the weekend after?
16:22:36 [jperrott] scrivs> I understand. But, if you think about it, it was just another way of inner considering.
16:23:10 [jperrott] mike> 1st Sat in August.
16:23:29 [scrivs] jperrott> Agreed. No doubt.
16:23:38 [thedog] Other Best Moments ?????
16:23:41 [mike] jperrott> oki-doke
16:24:02 [scrivs] jperrott> But it was a close call.
16:25:02 [alison] BM There was silence this morning for the first 15 minutes of class – when my eyes eyes were closed it was as close as I could get to being in the presence of Mr G, when my eyes were open I was sitting in my own presence….
16:25:15 [richard] B.M.2 Looking forward to discovering all those things I don’t know about
16:25:31 [scrivs] thedog> Seeing how movies influenced my life at age 8 9 10 onwards.Not having Dad around to act as role model.
16:25:55 [thedog] Best Momenet …. What did you see, what did you add, what did you do of significant importance that moved you up a notch toward our common aim?
16:25:55 [jperrott] scrivs> Probably a post-call – if you think about it?
16:26:15 [mike] BM: Getting the full set of Highway To Heaven Season Two DVD’s in the post
16:27:09 [scrivs] jperrott> Meaning….some degre of justification? Sure. I’ll own up to that.
16:27:49 [alison] thedog> I saw more of the system of guy ropes that hold me down and how easy it is to snip them once seen – one does, however, need to keep ones eyes open….
16:28:18 [jperrott] scrivs> Great – because, if yu don’t it’ll continue to grasp you around your neck!
16:29:11 [gary] jperrott> In our last e-mail communication you said, "I expect it constructed itself" Well it did – in fact it put the "scene" together after the event!
16:29:14 [mike] alison> need to keep ones highs open – sorry, couldn’t resist
16:29:38 [richard] mike> Highway to heaven season two sounds great, I wouldn’t mind borrowing those from you
16:29:43 [alison] thedog> I added another week of work to my till – another field plowed
16:29:48 [jperrott] thedog> Being the intermediary for the question, "Can two human beings really love each other?"
16:29:55 [alison] mike> very droll!
16:30:17 [scrivs] jperrott> One second hand /used False Personality for sale. Going very cheaply. Offers invited.
16:30:35 [richard] mike> Byways to heaven sounds more like it
16:30:42 [thedog] alison> Yes ma’am, cause the ropes are more like vines and will seek to attach themselves back to the stake. One must keep one’s sissors sharp and well oiled …. or, perhaps, a chian saw would be better.
16:30:46 [jperrott] gary> Well spotted! That’s how it usually works – when we think we’re thinking!
16:30:54 [mike] richard> just been watching the episode arnie – the kid who lives in the box with his cat
16:31:02 [stephen] I’ve noticed that as I’m working on something, eventually I get to a point where I feel like I’m having a degree of success, and immediately after that point I lose a lot of momentum and make fewer efforts so it comes crashing back down again
16:31:16 [jperrott] scrivs> Who do you dislike enough to try and sell it to?
16:31:30 [richard] mike> Is it on Channel four?
16:31:38 [alison] thedog> I stayed awake to possibilities of change seeking to shine a light into any dark corner
16:31:51 [gary] jperrott> None, or very little objectivity!
16:31:59 [stephen] Is that related to the ‘immediate, opposite’ force that appears whenever you make one?
16:32:19 [jperrott] stephen> "Pride comes before…the fall."
16:32:30 susanhagan enters this room
16:32:31 [alison] thedog> I saw that whilst there are dark corners one cannot reside in the light
16:32:53 [richard] mike> Steve seagal films are well worth watching
16:33:09 [mike] richard> no, it’s on dvd, been watching it all week – excellent foodstuff for the EC
16:33:18 [scrivs] jperrott> Open .
16:33:34 [richard] mike> If you can view them without getting tangled up
16:33:38 [mike] richard> won’t go into the stuff i usually watch
16:34:03 [jperrott] gary> Correct. We must learn the flavour of intentional thinking (active reasoning) and so distinguish it from mechanical associations.
16:34:13 [richard] mike> arnie who?
16:34:42 [mike] richard> the kid who lives in the box
16:35:06 [richard] mike> I mean what’s his other name?
16:35:12 [mike] richard> great to get tangled up if you’re aware of it, you can use it
16:35:15 [alison] scrivs> Do not put it up for sale – dismantle it and use the parts to build a real one
16:36:08 [alison] scrivs> You have a blueprint of how a personality should look in the real world so the parts can be put together in another way now
16:36:33 [richard] mike> Youv’e not seen that big spicer scary movie obviously
16:36:34 [scrivs] alison> The humour in that was about the possibility of someone taking it off my hands.
16:36:45 [mike] richard> there’s mucho energy in tham thar emotions to be generated and put to benefit
16:36:47 [richard] mike> Spider
16:36:56 [scrivs] Or impossibility
16:37:34 [jperrott] scrivs> Unwillingness?
16:37:35 [mike] richard> arachnophobia?
16:37:36 [richard] mike> The Lord of the Rings wow what a situation he was entangles in
16:37:40 [thedog] jperrott> There can be love between: 2 beings both Man #1, 2 beings both Man #2, 2 beings Man #3 ……..; 2 beings, one a Man #1 and the other a Man #2, 2 beings ……………………. so, yes.
16:38:22 [gary] When I wake up some mornings I experience a seemingly sudden realisation that I am here in my body and that time is passing… can’t put in to better words than that… any ideas what is going on?
16:38:43 [richard] mike> A reviewer of that film and Harry potter movie said there was no humour in either
16:39:25 [susanhagan] Time IS passing
16:39:55 [alison] gary> No 33, one of the best ways of arousing the wish to work on oneself is to realise that one may die at any moment – but first one has to learn how to bear it in mind
16:40:01 [Tony] B.M. Saw I say stupid stuff because I am identified and not present enough to think b4 I speak.
16:40:12 [richard] mike> Abbott and Costello combined scary type films and funnies as well
16:40:15 [jperrott] thedog> Thanks – but we managed to get away from "type and polarity".
16:40:48 [thedog] gary> Reality
16:40:50 [richard] mike> Gurdjieff @
16:41:15 [scrivs] ..or, keep it in mind…
16:41:27 [jperrott] Tony> Through such observations – man escapes!
16:41:35 [gary] Thank you all!
16:41:54 [mike] richard> home
16:42:11 [mike] richard> .com
16:42:45 [richard] mike> Sorry I pressed Send inadvertantly, that should have read, Gurdjieff; Dogs play every day
16:42:50 [gary] thedog> Yes. There is a sense of the inner and outer worlds.
16:43:17 [jperrott] gary> When Our endlessness realised that, her saw that he had to change something!
16:43:19 [mike] richard> especially the puppies
16:43:59 [jperrott] gary> s/her/he (not that it matters).
16:44:21 [richard] mike> Well, lets start over
16:44:50 [mike] richard> anything to do with that tract about everyday being a friday
16:45:00 [mike] richard> for some people
16:45:09 [gary] jperrott> For me then its changing the laws of mechanicalness to those of conscious intention?
16:45:14 [richard] mike> Whenever I feel afraid, I whistle a happy tune
16:46:26 [mike] richard> pack up your troubles in your old….etc..and smile, smile, smile
16:46:52 [richard] mike> A fortune telling midget escaped from gaol, what was his description?
16:47:19 [richard] mike> Small, medium, at large
16:47:38 [thedog] jperrott> I was referring to "The love of Man #1-Man #7". From what we are, we can’t escape. How do we love? What would be "The love of man #5, #6, Man #7"? It is a relative
16:48:18 [gary] jperrott> I will work with that for this week and report back next week.
16:48:24 [jperrott] gary> Yes – in the context of your life – for which you are allowed to become the immediate god. .
16:48:29 [scrivs] " By and large " is an abbreviation of what phrase? No prizes. Just satisfaction.
16:49:08 [richard] mike> seriously, the oscillations in Cosmic Secrets remind me of all the opposites in my life that have pushed and pulled me around, now I have a chance to study them more in depth
16:49:22 [thedog] gary> What else would a sense of presence taste like
16:49:25 [jperrott] thedog> I understand and know that you were. I prefer the realtives in World 6!
16:49:35 [mike] richard> that’s terrible mate – making fun of the vertically challenged – could get done for that by the pc police
16:50:01 [scrivs]>[thedog] > Thank you for 16 47 38.
16:50:09 [mike] richard> and more importantly – do something about them
16:50:19 [gary] thedog>
16:50:36 [richard] mike> topsy turvy
16:50:56 [Tony] B.M. Seeing the mental gymnastics that I go through thinking about positive states when all the time it is not the state.
16:51:44 [mike] richard> curly wurly, up on your downers
16:51:44 [richard] mike> In the Sufis tonight I asked silently. how is it possible to have love>
16:52:26 [mike] richard> love can have you
16:52:58 [mike] richard> if you let it
16:53:13 [richard] mike> That’s about the size of the answer I got
16:53:19 [scrivs] thedog> Does 16 47 38 refer in any way to loving one’s neighbour?
16:54:12 [mike] richard> that makes two of us baby, wanna get it on?
16:54:34 [richard] mike> I saw that love is available in creation we don’t love , love is
16:55:04 [jperrott] scrivs> There are different manifestations of love in differring neighbourhoods.
16:55:35 [thedog] Tony> Incredible realisations Tony. Real stuff for being able to change. To Know, To Be, To Do … but, perhaps, "To See", comes first.
16:56:13 [richard] mike> Love is already going on all the time
16:56:38 [thedog] scrivs> Yes, a Man #6 loves his neighbor different than a Man #2 loves his.
16:56:47 [richard] mike> Ive just been watching the wrong channel
16:56:58 [mike] richard> always has been matey, we just don’t always see it
16:57:38 [scrivs] thedog> Who is my neighbour ?
16:57:41 [susanhagan] World 6 is ‘All Suns’..and according to what we heard this morning love is available only to those who are able to explore the points of view of others without opinion +attitude! Any connections?
16:57:43 [alison]>[thedog] How is your good lady? Well?
16:58:14 [thedog]>[alison] Yes Ma’am.
16:58:48 [alison]>[thedog] Excellent – please give her a kiss from me
16:58:52 [mike] susanhagan> Heartitude
16:58:54 [thedog] susanhagan> Bingo!
16:59:13 [stephen] susanhagan> that’s great
16:59:20 [gary] Is love the resultant of work on oneself – where no matter what comes your way inner and/or outer you have the ability to remain impartial!?
16:59:32 [stephen] susanhagan> where is it from?
16:59:57 [thedog] gary> Eureka!
17:00:25 [jperrott] gary>
17:00:26 [scrivs] jperrott> Good.
17:00:48 [stephen] susanhagan> was that a quote from somewhere? 16:57:41
17:00:58 [richard] mike> External considering seems The Way
17:01:23 [thedog] scrivs> Depends on where you live.
17:01:30 [susanhagan] Yes! From John in class this morning in answer to the question that he referred to earlier.
17:01:32 [stephen] susanhagan> just curious if i could follow up on that somewhere
17:01:49 [stephen] susanhagan> guess i’ll have to go to the source then
17:02:04 [thedog] DING DING DING.
17:02:29 [thedog] Thanks for being here, See ya next week.
17:02:31 [alison] Goodnight all
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17:02:41 [jperrott] Love and best wishes to all!
17:02:48 [susanhagan] Night!
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17:03:01 [mike] richard> well, it takes the focus away from the internal where we’re closed to being open and if we can’t open up then we can’t receive
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17:03:04 [stephen] Love
17:03:06 [Tony] Thank you, Night all
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17:03:15 [gary] Bye for now!
17:03:28 [scrivs] Sleep tight!
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17:03:39 [mike] thanks everyone
17:04:33 [richard] Hope to see everyone early August
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18:57:22 [alejandra] Buenas Tardes mis queridas amigas.
18:58:30 [Verónica] Hola preciosas, buenas tardes
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18:59:58 [Chris] Hola Buenas Tardes a todas las bellas que engalanan este chat!!!
19:00:11 [claudia] Hola, besos para todas
19:01:27 [alejandra] COMENZAMOS CON NUESTROS MEJORES MOMENTOS.
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19:02:40 [Chris] Les comparto mi mejor momento de la semana que fue el sabado, cuando note que la máquina se estaba enojando, pude frenarla y cambiar mi estado, fue maravilloso!!!
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19:03:17 [mariana] BUENAS TARDES A TODAS
19:03:45 [james] Chris> Maravilloso esfuerzo
19:03:58 [Verónica] Uno de mis mejores momentos fue hoy, al acompañar a mi mamá y compartir con ella, me puede adelantar a algunos eventos de fricción y en lugar de expresar negatividad, decidí compartir con ella lo mejor de mí en ese momento
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19:05:05 [james] Verónica>
19:05:32 [Chris] otro de mis mejores momentos fue poder darme cuenta de que no tengo porque enojarme ni molestarme con nadie, y que con mi trabajo y mi estado puedo darle otro ejemplo y es maravilloso ver como las otras personas reaccionan con mi trabajo
19:05:35 [claudia] Mi mejor momento fue recordar que cuando era niña, sólo tenía una preocupación, el presente.
19:05:37 [mariana] me gustaria compartir mi peor momento ,fue ayer cuando le dije una mentira a mi mama,esto provoco una friccion muy fuerte entre ella y mariana ,esto me permitio ver esta inexactitud y la verdad si que lo pensare muchas veces antes de mentir .
19:06:19 [james] Chris> Muy bien
19:06:21 [marianne] mejor momento fue ayer cuando russ le explico el doble a Alexis y poder ver que marianne tenia una cuenta pendiente y poder doblarlo en ese momento.
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19:06:44 [juanpablo] buenas tardes a todos
19:06:51 [james] claudia> Que hermoso
19:07:32 [james] marianne> Que maravilloso
19:07:34 [renatta] Buenas tardes a todos, mi mejor momento fue el dìa de ayer con mi hijo estabamos jugando y de pronto nos abrazamos le di lo mejor de mi en ese momento y cuando nos separamos sus ojos estaban humedecidos me dijo te quiero mucho, fue un momento que siento lo recordara por mucho tiempo.
19:07:50 [james] juanpablo> Buenas tardes amigo, bienvenido a este chat.
19:08:16 [juanpablo] uno de mis mejores momentos fue el percatarme ( que en cualquier momento el trabajo se puede venir abajo,aforismo 50)
19:08:52 [james] renatta> Es hermoso, gracias por compartirlo con nosotros.
19:10:01 [james] juanpablo> Si
19:11:54 [james] Despues de nuestros mejores momentos quien tiene preguntas o comentarios .
19:15:14 [Verónica] En la pag 37 dice, que la vibración 168 (SI en la escala -0) no se encuentra en la escala 1… en la pag 41 da una explicación… pero busqué en la pag 159 y el patrón que ví en el diagrama es diferente
19:15:47 [Verónica] mi pregunta es ¿por qué?, ya que en la pag 159 después de un SI sigue un RE…
19:16:50 [Chris] La estructura interna que estudiamos en mi, se refiere a como funciona la máquina desde su origen? es decir, desde el AND hasta sus funcionamientos completos?
19:16:53 [mariana] tengo una pregunta estoy haciendo el eneagrama del ser en la nota MI se encuentra el centro motriz y las herramientas de trabajo que pueden ser los ejercicios?
19:17:12 [james] Verónica> En la pag. 37 y 41, el diagrama se refiere a octavas internas. En la pagina 159 el diagrama nos muestra octavas externas.
19:18:54 [Verónica] james> Entonces, cuando se trate de octavas internas el patrón será que después de una nota SI, en la siguiente escala (octava?) desaparece y en la siguiente es una nota SOL… es así?
19:19:21 [renatta] el origen del ADN da principio a la vida y como tal es el principio duplicador de la octava que da origen a la octava misma y permite su crecimiento con la evoluciòn de los otros centros hasta llegar al Do superior?.
19:20:05 [james] Chris> Esto esta mostrando la correcta funcion de nuestra maquina desde su origen. Nos muestra no solamente todos los centros que estan en un hombre si no tambien que podemos estudiar como la naturaleza desarrollo desde el ADN hasta llegar al hombre.
19:21:39 [claudia] Para que nos sirven las octavas?
19:21:52 [james] mariana> Si tu estas haciendo un eneagrama de como trabajar en tu SER, entonces esta es la forma en que los ejercicios estarian en el eneagrama.
19:23:08 [Chris] el ADN es entonces solo un principio que da paso a la evolución del hombre?
19:23:41 [james] Verónica> Si estas en lo correcto cuando se refiere a las escalas interiores.
19:25:11 [Verónica] En la pag 39 habla sobre las observaciones de la Escala -2… por qué ocurre una pausa en dos ocasiones?
19:25:41 [james] renatta> Si, hasta que algo se duplique a si mismo exactamente no podemos tener vida asi que con el ADN todo lo demas viene.
19:26:12 [renatta] En la Literatura se marca que la nota MI es ya una nota donde viene toda nuestra aplicaciòn, en un cierto sentido depende del trabajo que hagamos, esto es porque en MI se da el trabajo practico conmigo misma?
19:26:57 [james] claudia> Todo lo que funciona y existe en el universo sigue la ley de las Octavas. asi que no podemos decir que entendemos todo hasta que podamos verlo en una forma de octava.
19:27:23 [mariana] en el proceso evolutivo del hombre en entre RE y MI se da un chispazo de razón en el hombre gracias al centro emocional en su partes altas ?
19:28:48 [claudia] Quiere decir que cada vibración en mi ser es como una nota musical?
19:28:54 [james] Chris> Si, es el comienzo de la vida que fue capaz de desarrollarse.
19:29:49 [Chris] en la pág. 40 las 3 escalas, 13 octavas y 71 vibraciones que se refiere a definir lo que una cosa es y conocer sus partes a que se refiere específicmente?
19:31:15 [james] Verónica> Hay 2 pausa en la escala 2 porque las octavas internas solamente existen entre Re y Do. Entonces los 2 intervarlos en la escala 1 que son DO -RE no tienen ninguna octava interna entonces es donde ocurren las pausas en la escala 2.
19:34:13 [james] renatta> No estoy seguro de tu referencia. De cualquier manera cuando llegamos a la nota MI tenemos que elegir todas nuestras habilidades (RE) y nuestras herramientas (MI) para completar la octava y tambien completar la primera octava interior (RE-MI).
19:35:03 [renatta] Leia que cuando al principio alguien quiere llevar a cabo un proposito generalmente queda resonando en RE y llega a MI pero despuès no hay avance, esto porque es producido ¿por la cercanìa con el primer intervalo?.
19:35:46 [Verónica] La pausa es donde se necesita un "choque consciente", es así?
19:37:36 [james] mariana> No estoy seguro de tu referencia me podrias dar mas informacion.
19:39:09 [james] claudia> Si, cada parte de nosotros tiene su propia vibracion y cada vez que nos observamos a nosotros mismo mas podemos observar mas la vibracion en nosotros mismos.
19:40:50 [mariana] me refiero a los dos huecos que hay en el eneagrama uno es entre RE y MI ,y el otro entre SIy DO.
19:42:33 [claudia] Entonces para que mis vibraciones no sean cacofónicas debo sonar en las tres escalas?
19:43:02 [james] Chris>se refiere a como definir lo que algo es. Si tu no sabes de donde viene o despues o de lo que es parte o de los que sus partes son entonces no podemos saber objetivamente lo que es.
19:44:49 [james] renatta> Cuando tu comienzas un proyecta sin haber usado las 17 lineas del eneagrama, solamente comienzas en Do y vas Re y Mi pero tu no sabes que octava tu tienes que traer en MI para poder pasar Fa asi que eso te para.
19:46:51 [james] Verónica> Cuando trabajamos para completar una octava nos manifestamos en la octava 0. Asi que la escala de las pausas de la escala 2 no estan envueltas.
19:48:37 [Chris] por que en una octava la nota que sigue es si y no re, porque finaliza la octava en Re?
19:49:26 [Verónica] De las notas creadas en cada escala: dice que son 6 en la Escala -0, 18 en la Escala -1, y 54 en la Escala -2… Mi pregunta es: en la Escala -1, para que sean las 18 notas, no se cuentan los Do’s… es así? porque únicamente así me da esa cifra…
19:50:49 [james] mariana> Las 2 Gaps (huecos) estan entre Mi-Fa y Si-Do y esto es en adicion de la octava (10) en la nota Mi la cual nos hace pasar la primera Gap (hueco).
19:53:38 [james] claudia> Primero tenemos que quitar las partes de nosotros (vibraciones) que son subjetivas y por medio de identificaciones que son partes cacafonicas en nosotros.
19:54:48 [renatta] Gracias James y Alejandra, saludos Marianne, un beso para todos, hasta pronto, que tengan una semana llena de energìa y presencia. Tengo que salir, gracias.
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19:55:13 [mariana] estas partes que le compartes a Claudia son las partes bajas de los centros?
19:55:46 [claudia] Gracias James, saludos y besos cariñosos para todos
19:57:22 [james] Chris> Cuando una octava va en ascension tiene que llegar hasta (SI) Y ENTONCES el proceso de Si-Do-Re puede comenzar a alcanzar el comienzo de la proxima octava.
19:57:30 [juanpablo] gracias a todos buenas noches
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19:58:40 [james] Chris> En una octava descendente Re es considerado la parte de abajo de la octava.Porque no hay octavas internas despues de ellas.
19:59:45 [james] Verónica> Exactamente. Los DO vienen de las notas creadas en la escala 0.
20:00:31 [Verónica] Y en la Escala -0, tampoco se cuentan?
20:00:54 [james] mariana> Si pueden venir desde ahi cuando somos mecanicos pero tambien vienen desde nuestras identificaciones.
20:03:14 [james] Verónica> Los 2 no se cuentan en la escala 0 porque ellos vienen de notas creadas de la octava desconocida. Asi que en escala 0 es donde Re, Mi, Sol son creadas asi que no cuentan en la escala 1 cuando ellos se vuelven DO.
20:03:56 [alejandra] hasta luego mis amigas preciosas nos vemos el dia sabado con nuestro querido maestro Russell.
20:04:06 [Verónica] james> gracias, me queda mucho mas claro…
20:04:22 [james] LA TAREA DE LA PROXIMA SEMANA SERA LEER EL CAPITULO MI.
20:04:59 [marianne] les mando un abrazo con mucho carino a todos.
20:05:11 [Verónica] Buenas noches, que tengan una maravillosa semana, y nos vemos el sábado… besos para todas especialmente para las Sangerianas… incluyendo a James… besos
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20:05:51 [mariana] gracias a todos una saludo y un beso con todo cariño
20:06:05 [Chris] Muchas gracias a todos, por sus comentarios y su tiempo, gracias James y Ale!!!
20:06:19 [james] Verónica> Gracias Vero, los queremos a todos.
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