April 17 & 18 2004

[Russell Smith]

America/Mexico

[csmith] for anyone interested, I’ve just downloaded the browser Mozilla 1.6, and the screen does not blink when it refreshes. Hooray.

[MigueAngel] azavala> Hermanooooo!!! me da gusto que estés aquí… ¿me ayudas a traducir?

[enrique] Hola buenas tardes a todos

[azavala] of course.- please del inglés al español.- saludos.

[azavala] BUENAS TARDES A TODOS.

[MigueAngel] Hola hermanos y amigos reales en el trabajo, empiecen a escribir su mejor y peor momento mientras entra Russell.

[azavala] MigueAngel> AQUÍ ESTAMOS FLAVIO Y ALFONSO.-

[MigueAngel] En su peor momento digan qué ejercicios usaron para trabajarlo.

[MigueAngel] azavala> ¡perfecto!

[enrique] mi mejor momento lo acabo de vivir con los hermanos en el trabajo al hacer el ejercicio del April Fool

[MigueAngel] We are here PRESENT dear master teacher and beloved friend.

[thedog] Best Moments

[azavala] FLAVIO.- MI MEJOR MOMENTO FUE HOY CUANDO MIGUEL ME DESPERTÓ.!!!!

[Verónica] Hola, un beso para todos

[MigueAngel] Enrique says: my best moment was just today with my fellow students doing our April Fools together.

[Cristina] Hola a todos, Hi every body

[MigueAngel] Flavio: My best moment was today when Miguel awakened me!!!

[thedog] MigueAngel> Glorious

[csmith] Instant chats with Symon, Seth, Russ, and a telephone conversation with Russ this week.

[carlosc] hola a todos

[csmith] er, uh, a telephone conversation with John P. this week.

[MigueAngel] Hola a todos otra vez, saludos de Carmen Celina.

[Verónica] Uno de mis mejores momentos de esta semana fue en la reunión de dormidos mientras efectuabamos el ejercicio de la posición incómoda.

[symon] csmith> ditto Charles

[renatta] mi mejor momento es aquì y ahora, hace unos minutos tuve l magnìfica oportunid de sentir la presencia de Cristica en mì

[Cristina] Mi mejor momento fue en la reunión de hace rato de fools, en donde hicimos el april fools todos juntos, fue una experiencia que sigue mantiendo mi prsencia en estos momentos

[azavala] csmith> DICE: EL CHAT CON SYMON, SETH, RUSS Y UNA CONVERSACION TELEFONICA CON RUSS ESTA SEMANA.

[enrique] Mi peor momento fuè al preguntarle a mi pareja sobre ciertas cuestiones de manera mecanica, despues de darme cuenta utilice el ejercicio de caminando en la luz, armonizando asì el evento

[thedog] To Flavio. You awakened yourself, you only needed a good reason

[MigueAngel] Renatas’best: here and now feeling my Christ Presence.

[azavala] symon> csmith.- DICE.- IGUAL QUE CHARLES.

[jorge] buenas tardes a todos.

[MigueAngel] Cristina’s: Our group April Fools’

[symon] BM i have been hanging out with a guy that creates tremendous internal FP reactions so every moment with im has been a selfremembering moment many oppourtunity to stop myself and observe

[azavala] thedog> A FLAVIO.- TU TE DESPERTASTE A TI MISMO, SOLO NECESITAS UNA BUENA RAZÓN.

[MigueAngel] Enrique’s worse: asking my couple about some questions mechanically, and after realizing this I used the light walking exercise, harmonizing the incident.

[csmith] symon> great work

[thedog] renatta> Then the Father is in view Bravo!

[mariana] saludos a todos,mi mejor momento fue hoy al realizar el ejercicio de april fools senti una gran presencia

[symon] working on ME has been many best moments this week

[csmith] enrique> worst is best. Anything that causes self remembering that you can remember is a best moment.

[MigueAngel] Mariana Bocos’ best: today, feeling a great presence in our group April Fools

[azavala] symon> ..DICE.- HE ESTADO TRATANDO CON UNA PERSONA QUE CREA UNA TREMENDA REACTION INTERNA ASI QUE CADA MOMENTO CON EL HA SIDO UN MOMENTO DE AUTORECUERDO CON MUCHAS OPORTUNIDADES DE PARARME A MI MISMO Y OBSERVAR.

[jorge] Mi mejor momento fue en mi trabajo,cuando me di cuenta de que al estar laborando hubo fatiga,con el ejercicio del impulso de la presencia se transformo la misma.

[azavala] CSMITH DICE A SYMON.- GRAN TRABAJO.

[thedog] Who has not received the Master Exercises…and, if not yet, when?

[gon] Si podia llorar, pero sucedia como sin plenitud. Antenoche pude hacerlo con plenitud y mucha alegria.

[azavala] thedog> renatta.- ENTONCES EL PADRE ESTA A LA VISTA.- BRAVO!!

[carlosc] mi mejor momento de la semana fue al soltar emocionalmente una situacion personal que me venia aquejando y en la cual la presencia estuvo intensa

[azavala] symon> DICE.- TRABAJAR SOBRE MI MISMO HA SIDO MI MEJOR MOMENTO ESTA SEMANA

[Verónica] Mi peor momento, fue hoy al mediodía cuando estaba haciendo limpieza, mi hija me hizo una pregunta y conteste con dureza. sin embargo alcancé a detenerme y no expresar emoción negativa.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo says: I was able to cry but withoud plenitud, yesterday night I was able to do it but with plenitud and joy.

[thedog] Flavio> Is your awakening as good as you wished it to be, or is it even better?

[azavala] csmith> enrique.- EL PEOR ES EL MEJOR. CUALQUIER COSA QUE CAUSA RECUERDO DE SI Y QUE PUEDES RECORDAR ES EL MEJOR MOMENTO.

[csmith] gon> is this objective crying?

[MigueAngel] Jorges’ best: in my job realizing working was tiredsome and with the presence momentum exercise the presence transformed everything.

[azavala] thedog> ¿QUIEN NO HA RECIBIDO LOS EJERCICIOS MAESTROS..Y SI TODAVIA NO, CUANDO?

[mariana] mi peor momento de la semana fue ayer al reaccionar con expresion negativa ante un cuestionamiento que se me hizo,no pude parar y reaccione

[thedog] gon> Bravo Gonzalo. You are my Hero. You are a leader and a man who is not afraid to claim what is his. I salute you

[MigueAngel] Carlos best: releasing emotionally a personal situation that was hurting me and my presence was intense.

[renatta] el peor: ayer, mi màquina estaba atrapada entre consid. int. e importancia personal, entonces hice la vara de 2 puntas, razon act. el triple y pude sentir còmo cambiaba mi estado.

[jorge] mi peor momento fue ayer al darme cuenta de que no pude parar a la maquina a tiempo y hubo disgusto pero no hubo transformacion

[azavala] thedog> A FLAVIO.- ¿ES TU DESPERTAR TAN BUENO COMO DESEABAS QUE FUERA O ES MEJOR?

[MigueAngel] Veronica’s worse: today doing my cleaning, my daughter made a question and I answered harshly and I was able to stop myself and not express negative emotion.

[thedog] carlosc> Seeing is the first step to being free. Good Job.

[azavala] FLAVIO DICE.- MI DESPERTAR ES ALGO QUE NO PODIA IMAGINAR. NO TENIA IDEA DE COMO PODRIA SER.- NO TENGO COMO COMPARARLO

[thedog] Verónica> Until a man can stop himself, everything else is only an illusion. Great for your awareness.

[MigueAngel] Renatta’s worse: yesterday my machine wast trapped between inner considering and self importance, then I did the two ends of the stick, active reasoning and a threefold, and I was able to feel my state changing.

[carlosc] mi peor momento fue el jueves cuando estaba entrando en callejones psicologicos que me estaban llevando a tener imaginacion negativa

[thedog] renatta> Again, that is right application of the work.

[MigueAngel] Jorges’worst: yesterday realizing I wasn’t able to stop on time my machin and there was unpleasantness but there was transformation.

[enrique] ¿es un sintoma del despertar y que se exprese a traves del llanto o la risa? csmith

[azavala] thedog> gon.- BRAVO GONZALO, TU ERES MI HEROE. ERES UN LIDER Y UN HOMBRE QUE NO TIENE MIEDO DE EXPRESARSE. TE SALUDO.

[Verónica] Antes de hacer el ejercicio del April Fool hicimos una lectura de Nicoll, el Bien por encima de la Verdad. Sentí la Presencia en mi presencia como una corriente eléctrica que me recorrió el cuerpo. Hermoso

[csmith] renatta> I’ve only recently realized that the worst is also the best if the result produces reproducable self-remembering. Good on you all!

[MigueAngel] Flavio says: My awakening is something I wasn’t able to imagine, neither I have idea on how was it possible to be. I have nothing to compare it with.

[thedog] jorge> The moment a man stops his machine is the moment he sees God.

[azavala] thedog> carlosc.- VER ES EL PRIMER PASO PARA SER LIBRE.- BUEN TRABAJO.

[MigueAngel] Carlos’worse: thursday entering in psychological bad streets with negative imagination.

[csmith] thedog> stopping thoughts is a close second for “seeing God”

[thedog] Flavio, Then you must be seeing rightly. Congratulations for claiming your right.

[gon] Conseptualmente una ventana permite o detiene la entrada de algo, tanto en un sentido como en el otro. Que nos dicen las ventanas de las que se comentan en el capitulo Si de Secretos Cosmicos. Que nos dicen estas ventanas en su orizontalidad?

[azavala] thedog> Verónica.- HASTA QUE UN HOMBRE PUEDE PARARSE A SI MISMO, TODO LO DEMAS ES SOLO ILUSION. GRACIAS POR TU CONCIENCIA.

[azavala] thedog> renatta.- DE NUEVO, ESA ES LA APLICACION CORRECTA DEL TRABAJO.

[MigueAngel] Enrique to Chares Smith: what is a symtom of the awakening that is expressed through crying and laughing

[MigueAngel] Veronica: before the April fools of today we did a reading… i felt my presence as an electric current. beautiful.

[azavala] csmith> renatta.- HACE POCO COMPRENDI QUE LO PEOR ES TAMBIEN LO MEJOR SI EL RESULTADO PRODUCE REPETICIONES DE RECUERDO DE SI. BIEN HECHO.

[symon] today in class there was a small discussion aboout how the church is ruining education and sience and i remembered galleleo and verified that nothing does change

[csmith] enrique> I cry more than I laugh. But if you look at the face of someone who is crying and the fact of someone who is laughing they often look very much the same.

[symon] it still moves

[azavala] thedog> jorge.- EL MOMENTO EN QUE UN HOMBRE DETIENE A SU MAQUINA ES EL MOMENTO EN QUE VE A DIOS.

[thedog] Verónica>

[renatta] el martes hice el ejercicio de “escuchar activo” ha sido impactante, no habìa nada sòlo era la persona y yo, 0 juicios, me he sentido diferente

[azavala] csmith> thedog.- PARAR LOS PENSAMIENTOS ES LA SEGUNDA FORMA DE VER A DIOS.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo: conceptually a window allows or stops the entrance of something, in both ways: What are the window telling us (the ones mentioned in chapter Ti) ? What are this windows telling us in their horizontallity?

[thedog] Very good best moments. I rejoice in your objective observations. Now, are there any questions?

[azavala] thedog> A FLAVIO.- ENTONCES VISTE DE MANERA CORRECTA.- FELICITACIONES POR RECLAMAR TU DERECHO.

[symon] thedog> are genes coding for proteins the first self remembering?

[jorge] Para no tragarse una emocion que se debe de hacer, y como.

[azavala] symon> HOY EN CLASE SE DIO UNA PEQUEÑA DISCUSION ACERCA DE COMO LA IGLESIA IMPARTE EDUCACION Y CIENCIA, ENTONCES YO RECORDE A GALILEO Y VERIFIQUE QUE NADA HA CAMBIADO.

[MigueAngel] Renatta: on Tuesday I did Active Listening and it was shocking. There was nothing , just that person and myself. No judgements, and I have felt different.

[thedog] gon> In one scale they allow us to look up, in the other, they enable us to look around , which allows us to look up

[csmith] thedog> symon and I were chatting about Kundabuffer before the formal chate began. How does kundabuffer, “this astonishing organ” continue to manifest its presence in ordinary life?

[thedog] renatta> Excellent, now do it on wednesday…thursday…friday…saturday…

[MigueAngel] Jorge asks: In order to not swallow an emotion, what is it that we should do and how?

[azavala] csmith> enrique.- YO LLORO MAS QUE RIO. PERO SI MIRAS A LA CARA DE ALGUIEN QUE ESTA LLORANDO Y LA CARA DE ALGUIEN QUE ESTA RIENDO ELLOS SE MIRAN IGUALES.

[azavala] symon> Y SIN EMBARGO SE MUEVE..

[mariana] el jueves vi a veronica,ella compartio un correo que le mando a Miguel angel pude tener un ejemplo de lo que es el amor consciente,puede ser lo mismo al decir el bien por encima de la verdad?

[azavala] thedog> MUY BUENOS MEJORES MOMENTOS.- ME REGOCIJO EN SUS OBSERVACIONES OBJETIVAS.- AHORA. ¿HAY PREGUNTAS?

[thedog] jorge> It is our perception that determines the emotion…so try to change the perception. REPENT meant to Change your Mind.

[MigueAngel] Mariana asks: on thursday I saw Verónica and she shared an e-mail from Miguel Angel in which I was able to see and example of conscious love: Can it be the same to say the good above the truth?

[symon] thedog> thanks for the def of repent that is great

[azavala] symon> thedog.- HAY GENES CODIFICANDO PROTEINAS DEL PRIMER RECUERDO DE SÍ?

[azavala] thedog> gon.- EN UNA ESCALA ELLOS NOS PERMITEN VER HACIA ARRIBA, EN LA OTRA, NOS PERMITEN VER ALREDEDOR, LO CUAL NOS PERMITE VER ARRIBA.

[renatta] cuando aplico atenciòn e intenciòn en las cosas ¿Me acerco a las partes altas de mi misma?.

[gon] Podrias aclarar a quw te refieres con “codificar proteinas del primer recuerdo de si?

[symon] csmith> fantastic too thanks!

[MigueAngel] Renatta: When I apply atention and intention to things, Am I aproaching to higher parts of myself?

[thedog] MigueAngel> Firstly, any e-mail from Miguel will smell of conscious love But, yes, what is good is above truth and by trying to do good, we approach what is true.

[azavala] csmith> thedog.- SYMON Y YO ESTUVIMOS COMENTANDO ACERCA DEL KUNDABUFFER ANTES DEL INICIO DEL CHAT. COMO CONTINUA EL KUNDABUFFER, ESTE ORGANO ASOMBROSO, MANIFESTANDO SU PRESENCIA EN LA VIDA ORDINARIA?

[enrique] En el sentido de que NUESTRO CREADOR SOSTEN-DEL-TODO se viò en la necesidad forzada de crear nuestro actual megalocosmos existente y en relaciòn a que estamos hechos a imagen y semejanza,tengo que crear “algo”para logar inmunidad de la acciòn de Heropass en mi mismo?

[azavala] thedog> renatta.- EXCELENTE, AHORA HAZLO EL MIERCOLES…JUEVES…VIERNES…SABADO.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo: Can you explain what are you refering to when you said: codifying the proteins in the first self remembering?

[thedog] renatta> Higher parts do not work automatically, so yes, keep bringing attention to intention

[azavala] thedog> jorge.- ES NUESTRA PERCEPCION LA QUE DETERMINA LA EMOCION… ASI QUE TRATA DE CAMBIAR LA PERCEPCION. ARREPENTIMIENTO SIGNIFICA CAMBIAR TU MENTE.

[Cristina] Me pudieran explicar que es el kundabufer por favor? Could you explain me please What is the kundabuffer?

[azavala] symon> thedog.- GRACIAS POR LA DEFINICION DE ARREPENTIMIENTO, ES ESTUPENDA.

[MigueAngel] Enrique: taking into consideration we were created in God’s image, do I need to creat “something” to attain immunity against Heropass in myself?

[symon] gon> i was referring to Cosmic secretes ad the creation of DNA from RNA i am wondering if the formation of the proteins in DNA were the first self remembering

[thedog] gon> DNA is the first moment of self-remembering. That is codifying the proteins. That which has become can remember itself in order to continue.

[MigueAngel] Cristina: could you please explain what is the kundabuffer?

[symon] thedog> thank you

[azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- EN PRIMER LUGAR, CUALQUIER E-MAIL DE MIGUEL ANGEL HUELE A AMOR CONSCIENTE. PERO, SI, LO QUE ES BUENO ESTA RELACIONADO CON LA VERDAD Y AL TRATAR DE HACER EL BIEN NOS APROXIMAMOS A LO QUE ES LA VERDAD.

[symon] thedog> i thought you had said that i could not remember

[azavala] thedog> renatta.- LAS PARTES SUPERIORES NO TRABAJAN AUTOMATICAMENTE, DE ACUERDO, CONTINUA TRAYENDO ATENCIÓN A LA INTENCIÓN.

[thedog] enrique> Good Question. Life overcomes the heropass. We replace all our cells about every 21 days, yet the continuity of the whole of me continues. I, WE, overcome the heropass by our existence. But we have the ability to create something in ourselves, which can surpass physical existence.

[Verónica] mariana> No fue e-mail, fue un chat con Miguel Ángel, donde comparti algunas experiencias con él y él me comentó que fue una experiencia de Amor Consciente

[azavala] symon> gon.- ME REFERIA A SECRETOS COSMICOS Y A LA CREACION DEL ADN A PARTIR DEL ARN, ME PREGUNTO SI LA FORMACION DE PROTEINAS EN EL ADN FUERON EL PRIMER AUTORECUERDO.

[MigueAngel] enrique> Grandiosa pregunta hermano, ¡felicidades!

[jorge] cual seria la diferencia entre sentimientos y emociones?

[azavala] thedog> gon.- ADN ES EL PRIMER MOMENTO DE RECUERDO DE SI MISMO. ES LA CODIFICACION DE LAS PROTEINAS. EN LO QUE SE HA CONVERTIDO PUEDE RECORDARSE A SI MISMO CON EL PROPOSITO DE CONTINUAR.

[MigueAngel] Jorge asks: which is the difference between feelings and emotions and sentimentality?

[azavala] symon> thedog.- PENSE QUE HABIAS DICHO QUE YO NO PODIA RECORDAR

[thedog] Cristina> Kundabuffer is the principle that all things fall to the bottom. What starts out in higher parts of centers, falls to mechanical parts. It is good for nature, for her, the faster it becomes mechanical, the better. For man, we must go against Kundabuffer. To not become mechanical.

[thedog] jorge> Feelings and emotion are basically the same. Sentimentality is an acquired personality.

[azavala] thedog> enrique.- BUENA PREGUNTA. LA VIDA SOBREPASA AL TIEMPO. NOSOTROS REEMPLAZAMOS NUESTRAS CELULAS CADA 21 DIAS, SI LA CONTINUIDAD DE MI TOTALIDAD CONTINUA. YO, NOSOTROS, SUPERAMOS AL TIEMPO CON NUESTRA EXISTENCIA. PERO TENEMOS LA HABILIDAD DE CREAR ALGO EN NOSOTROS MISMOS QUE PUEDE SUPERAR LA

[csmith] Cristina a newborn animal reacts quickly as mechanically as practical. That’s what Russ means when he says, “It is good for nature, for her, the faster it becomes mechanicals, the better.”

[azavala] CONTINUA DEL ANTERIOR……- EXISTENCIA FISICA.

[csmith] symon> time seems to be passing slowly today. Perhaps it is a case of “here time does not exist”

[thedog] jorge> Feelings are a property of emotions. Sentimentality is a property of formatory apparatus.

[azavala] thedog> Cristina.- KUNDABUFFER ES EL PRINCIPIO QUE DICE QUE TODAS LAS COSAS CAEN HACIA EL FONDO. NOSOTROS EMPEZAMOS EN LAS PARTES SUPERIORES DE LOS CENTROS, Y CAEMOS A LAS PARTES MECANICAS. ES BUENO PARA LA NATURALEZA, PARA ELLA, CUANTO MAS RAPIDO SE HACE MECANICO, MEJOR. PARA EL HOMBRE, DEBEMOS

[azavala] CONTINUA…..- IR EN CONTRA DEL KUNDABUFFER, PARA NO HACERNOS MECANICOS.

[symon] it is thought that in a black hole time stops and that is a model for the holy sun abslut and i ll hang there anytime

[azavala] thedog> jorge.- SENTIMIENTOS Y EMOCIONES SON BASICAMENTE LO MISMO. SENTIMENTALISMO ES LA PERSONALIDAD ADQUIRIDA.

[csmith] i’ll hang with you

[azavala] Cristina> Cristina.- UN ANIMAL RECIEN NACIDO REACCIONA RAPIDAMENTE TAN MECANICAMENTE COMO ES PRACTICO. ESO ES LO QUE RUSS QUIERE DECIR CUANDO MENCIONA QUE ES BUENO PARA LA NATURALEZA, CUANTO MAS RAPIDO SE HACE MECANICO, MEJOR.

[thedog] Thirteen minutes left Any other questions?

[csmith] thedog> how thoughtful of you to notice!

[renatta] Kundabuffer es = a òrgano amortiguador, entonces puede en analogìa ser como los “TOPES”, èstos bloquean mi desarrollo

[symon] thedog> yikes!?!?

[azavala] csmith> symon.- EL TIEMPO PARECE TRANSCURRIR LENTAMENTE HOY. QUIZAS ES EL CASO DEL DICHO “AQUI EL TIEMPO NO EXISTE”

[MigueAngel] Renatta: kundabuffer means organ that buffers, then could this be an analogy of a “bumper” that block my development?

[azavala] thedog> jorge.- LOS SENTIMIENTOS PERTENECEN A LAS EMOCIONES. EL SENTIMENTALISMO PERTENECE AL APARATO FORMATORIO.

[MigueAngel] Russell dice: ¡QUEDAN DIEZ MINUTOS… ¿MAS PREGUNTAS?

[azavala] symon> SE PIENSA QUE EN LOS HOYOS NEGROS EL TIEMPO SE DETIENE Y ESE ES UN MODELO PAR EL SANTO SOL ABSOLUTO Y YO …EN CUALQUIER MOMENTO.

[thedog] renatta> Kundabuffer is the principle that all things fall to the bottom. What starts out in higher parts of centers, falls to mechanical parts. It is Natures way. What starts out in me, in parts that require attention, passes to parts that function automatically. I stop using the parts that require use of attention and I fall a sleep (not having enough parts in use to create higher emotional center to function).

[renatta] Alguien me decìa que el tiempo son sòlo momentos, instantes, que debemos aprovechar, no sabemos si tendremos otra posibiidad.

[gon] Cuando persivo que se asercan pensamientos y sentimientos que pueden provocar un estado de animo adverso, paro y les digo: Tranquilos chicos! Tanquilos! Eso es topetear?

[jorge] Cual seria un ejemplo de desarrollar la parte intelectual del centro intelectual.

[enrique] La importancia del trabajo es precisamente la transformaciòn del ser en este tiempo, en este momento luego-entonces, no existe el tiempo?

[MigueAngel] Renatta mentions: somebody told me that time is only moments, instants, so we should take advantage of them, because we don’t know if we are going to have another possibility.

[symon] renatta> amen thanks for the reminder

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo: When I percive thoughts coming and feelings that can cause an adverse mood state, I stop and tell them: easy boys, be at easy… is this buffering?

[csmith] Renatta is right: We should Work like our life depends upon it, since it does.

[azavala] thedog> renatta.- KUNDABUFFER ES EL PRINCIPIO DE QUE TODAS LAS COSAS CAEN HACIA EL FONDO. LO QUE EMPIEZA EN LAS PARTES SUPERIORES, CAE A LAS PARTES MECANICAS. ASI OCURRE EN LA NATURALEZA. LO QUE EMPIEZA FUERA DE MI, EN LAS PARTES QUE REQUIEREN ATENCIÓN, PASA A LAS PARTES QUE FUNCIONAN

gon enters this room

[thedog] We are of the Fifth Way. We see that attention is needed, so we create, even, the mechanical to have attention. Thus we produce enough parts, by our own sound logic, to escape.

[MigueAngel] Jorge: Which would be an example of developing the intellectual part of the intellectual center?

[symon] renatta> aphorism # 33 )

[thedog] renatta> Yes, this is a good image. Aphorism # what?

[csmith] (b)

[MigueAngel] Enrique: The importance of work is precisely the transformation of being in time, in that moment, therefore, doesn’t time existst?

[azavala] …..ME DETENDO DE USAR LAS PARTES QUE REQUIEREN ATENCION Y CAIGO DORMIDO (AL NO TENER SUFICIENTES PARTES EN USO PARA CREAR EL CENTRO EMOCIONAL SUPERIOR)

[csmith] (y)

[gon] Cuando [persivo pensamientos o sentimientos que pueden jenerar un estado adverso los digo: Tranquilos chicos! Tranquilos!. Eso es topetear?

[thedog] jorge> Knowing the answer to that question before you asked it

[azavala] csmith> renatta.- TIENE RAZON. DEBEMOS DE TRABAJAR COMO SI NUESTRAS VIDAS DEPENDIERAN DE ELLO, PUESTO QUE ES ASÍ.

[azavala] thedog> NOSOTROS SOMOS DEL CUARTO CAMINO. NOSOTROS VEMOS QUE LA ATENCION ES NECESARIA, DE TAL MANERA QUE LA CREAMOS, INCLUSO LAS PARTES MECANICAS TIENEN ATENCION. ASI PRODUCIMOS SUFICIENTES PARTES, POR NOSOTROS MISMOS, PARA ESCAPAR.

[Verónica] Fue un momento de centro magnético el estar compartiendo con todos mis hermanos en el trabajo. Gracias Russ por tu Amor. Gracias Miguel Ángel y Alfonso por su apoyo en la traducción.

[azavala] thedog> renatta.- SI ES UNA BUENA IMAGEN. AFORISMO NÚMERO…CUAL?

[thedog] enrique> Time is the measure of existence…..If I or something exists, there is time. It is subjective in the way it is perceived but flows endlessly as a measure of existence.

[csmith] goodbye friends and loved ones. Next week!

[MigueAngel] Es un placer Vero y amigos.

[azavala] thedog> jorge.- CONOCIENDO LA RESPUESTA A ESA PREGUNTA ANTES DE QUE LA PREGUNTES.

[symon] csmith> bye charles much love

[thedog] DONG GONG BONG…Time is gone I will stay to finish up any current, not yet translated, questions.

[renatta] se me adelantaron es el aforismo 33, gracias Symon, gracias Russ

[Cristina] thedog> Thank you Sr. for being here, I love you so much, and I hope to see you soon

[azavala] thedog> enrique.- EL TIEMPO ES LA MEDIDA DE LA EXISTENCIA…SI YO O ALGO EXISTE, HAY TIEMPO. ES SUBJETIVA LA MANERA EN QUE SE PERCIBE, PERO FLUYE INCESANTEMENTE COMO UNA MEDIDA DE EXISTENCIA.

[MigueAngel] Russ dice que aunque el tiempo terminó se va a quedar a responder las preguntas ultimas pero no más.

[jorge] Gracias a Russell por sus comentarios y a los traductores Miguel Angel y Alfonzo .Hasta pronto.

[symon] renatta> no thank you

[azavala] thedog> DONG GONG BONG…SE FUE EL TIEMPO.- PERMANECERE PARA TERMINAR LAS PREGUNTAS QUE QUEDAN TODAVIA SIN TRADUCIR.

[thedog] Cristina> Grasias

[azavala] Cristina> thedog.- GRACIAS SR. POR ESTAR AQUI, TE AMO TANTO, ESPERO VERTE PRONTO.

[symon] thanks everyone much love to all thank you Russ dog rulez bye bye

[azavala] symon> renatta.- NO, GRACIAS A TI.

[enrique] gracias a todos por compartir, un abrazo.

[azavala] symon> GRACIAS A TODOS, AMOR PARA TODOS.- GRACIAS RUSS

[renatta] Ha sido esplendido todo este dìa, es sorprendente sentir que cuando te acercas al trabajo todo se te da por añadidura. CON AMOR. Renatta.

[thedog] Thanks to each of you for your questions and pursuit of truth. See you next week. Love, THE DOG.

[MigueAngel] Buenas noches a todos. Good night everyone.

[azavala] thedog> GRACIAS A CADA UNO DE USTEDES POR SUS PREGUNTAS Y BUSQUEDA DE LA VERDAD. LOS VEO LA SEMANA PROXIMA. AMOR, THE DOG.

[azavala] MigueAngel> OK.- 8:20 EN TU CASA.

[MigueAngel] bye todos.

[azavala] GRACIAS A TODOS.- MUCHOS SALUDOS. BY.

[Cristina] MigueAngel> Gracias Mike, besos y abrazos para ti y todos los hermanos de Vallarta, Te quiero mucho

[Cristina] Besos a todos

[enrique] A Vero ¿còmo guardo està informaciòn en mi correo?

[carlosc] Gracias a todos por su presencia nos vemos la proxima semana

[Verónica] Besos a todos, los mexicanos.

[Verónica] perdon defeeños

[Verónica] Enrique, te mando por e-mail el chat. ok}

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[jperrott] Good evening all!

[jperrott] So – here we are again.

[thedog] Best Moments

[thedog] My best moment was answering your and Alison’s questions.

[Tony] Hello

[thedog] Howdy

[jperrott] Hi Tony!

[Tony] B.M. Was in an altered state after class, that lasted all that evening

[thedog] Tony> great to have you here, you ask questions we all have to ask…and answer…”Why can’t this be true”.

[csmith] Best moments were certainly conversations with other Dog students during the week.

[detha] One that I didn’t mention in class… I have had rich opportunity this week to observe my machine and do both ends of the stick… it worked.

[thedog] Steve Wheeler e-mailed to say he is catching a plane to Nice and can not join us bet said hello to all.

[scrivs] Hallo tout le mond.

[jperrott] My B.M’s. were non-doing moments in thecompany of russ and Jonny.

[csmith] hallo back

[thedog] Tony> I want to hear more about the altered state, what you think contributed to it and when and why it dissipated? Please.

[scrivs] BM-a family get together around the newborn boy. ( Who slept through most of it ).

[gary] b/m an on going observation of watching the trees turn green !

[thedog] After Best Moments , who has a question or an observation to ask or share?

[thedog] gary> They are just envious of you

[Tony] thedog> It was due to something Ken said, about the fact that I can read a book and then go back to it the next day or year and the same words will be there.

[Sarah] jperrott> G evening JP

[jperrott] gary> maybe just envious of your capabilities!

[thedog] Please post questions to anyone, including yourself

[jperrott] Sarah> ood evening ma’am.

[Sarah] thedog> BM-remembering that we can only move ahead when we are truly at the beginning and that we are truly at the beginning always

[Tony] thedog> I have tried to think this through but haven’t got there yet. It suggests everything in the universe is an act of remembering?!!

[thedog] Tony> Good Tony

[Sarah] jperrott> BM-Realising that we do not have to be a qualified carpenter to produce quality carpentry

[jperrott] Sarah> Really – how does that work then?

[Tony] thedog> It’s nice for someone to remember me eaven though I don’t remember myself all the time…

[jperrott] Tony> It’s guaranteed Tony!

[thedog] Tony> One astronomer put it thus, (talking about how we are made from the atoms that were created at the beginning and now those atoms make Man) “it’s as if the Universe found a way to understand itself”.

[Sarah] jperrott> It seems that when we are not full of ourselves-that we are free to ultilse tools that are already formed in us.By taking each step at a time and performing each rightly.

[Tony] thedog> Does this link to the idea of the diminishing of the HSA and the need to replace certain substances that are provided by MAN?

[scrivs] detha>I often wonder if I actually exist.This blob of stuff that can think and ask. Am I truly here ? And a floating kind of feeling comes. And I’m not worried.

[jperrott] Sarah> That is the qualification!

[scrivs] thedog> What would be needed if one wished to become invisible ?

[detha] scrivs> I have found that the least real or viable thing in me is Detha… when I empty her out of the way than what is real has a place to be experienced in Me.

[jperrott] scrivs> Don’t move!

[detha] thedog> …an absence of ego?

[Sarah] jperrott> Really,Engineered,Acts,Last,Inside,In,Yourself

[thedog] Tony> It could well be that organized matter can provide, out of the same stuff, something more than chaos can, thus there is a return on investment Perhaps we are the prophets.

[scrivs] detha> I came to the idea that a thought is impartial. It’s only when there’s a collusion with feeling that things go awry. You think ?

[Sarah] jperrott> (oops!)

[thedog] scrivs> You would have to poke out everybody else’s eyes

[jperrott] Sarah> Que?

[thedog] detha> yes

[Tony] thedog> Is that something self remembering or something else?

[csmith] Que sera?

[Sarah] jperrott> hehehehhe!!!Quite;Really Engineered Arts Last Inside The Yearning…(if this code does not work-I will email you)

[jperrott] Sarah> REALITY – but what ‘s your point?

[thedog] Tony> Yes, “it’s as if the Universe found a way to understand itself through first finding a way to self-remember”.

[detha] scrivs> One concept is that we have to have all the centers included together in order to not get lost in associatiobns.

[jperrott] detha> I LOVE “associatiobns!

[detha] jperrott> trust you, John to catch me out!

[jperrott] detha> Too good to miss!

[thedog] Note of Knowledge: When The Moody Blues (a rock group who had very escoteric lyrics) wer asked what it meant, they said, “We don’t know, it just sounded good”,…..Strive never to fall into their plight — THE DOG.

[Sarah] jperrott> During a fruit fast I have undertaken and then the intoduction of salad and vegetables-I saw that byt clearing out all-we are left with something that can measure what we then allow in.The something that is left-was the only true part in the 1st place.

[jperrott] Sarah> Great observation – especially if your widen its scope of application.

[Sarah] jperrott> …and was there all along.Proving that the reason that we are where we have arrived-is it was already there in the 1st place.We just simply didnt have the being to be able to bear it.

[scrivs] thedog> We remember. Previous experiences are thus not wasted. So there is a profit .

[jperrott] Sarah> Well spotted!

[thedog] scrivs> Yes

[Sarah] jperrott> Does the ray of creation act as an inner octave on a grander scale??

[scrivs] thedog> Have been trying to be invisible of recent. But no one noticed .

[jperrott] Sarah> No – but it does reaffirm the 1s octave in the universe.

[thedog] scrivs>

[detha] scrivs> Now THAT was funny!

[csmith] scrivs> ha ha!

[detha] scrivs> Frank says “That is profound.”

[jperrott] Sarah> …and is able to return to its point of departure – with a little help from its environment!

[thedog] This is your opportunity to ask questions or share with each other … use it.

[jperrott] Sarah> … like men wothout quotation-marks!

[scrivs] thedog> Actually invisible came out as a kind of ‘Stealth’ being.

[thedog] scrivs> I have the image. To your stealth, sir.

[Tony] thedog> What is the Absolute?

[scrivs] How may one become free from the penetratingly invasive cries of a newborn child ? I had great difficulty. And failed.

[thedog] The top of the food chain

[jperrott] Tony> )

[scrivs] thedog> It’s something to reflect on .

[Tony] thedog> Where did it come from, has it always existed?

[thedog] scrivs> I guess we are not suppose to be free from it and are suppose to react to it and go find and help the child. It’s a nature thing.

[thedog] Tony> Absolutly

[scrivs] thedog> I’d go with that. It’s an essence in some need . Who could refuse ? !

[thedog] Tony> I poke fun. Seriously, we can not know. We can only investigate the sturcture we find here and perhaps reverse engineer it to know something about what we cannot yet see. Therin lies our hope.

[Sarah] jperrott>Thankyou.More CS study.BM-Witnessing Saul’s committed study of the 4th way and his smiles and revelations along the way.

[jperrott] Sarah> Sounds great to me – all strength to him!

[jperrott] Sarah> Regarding CS, which chapter are you studying currently?

[scrivs] thedog> At 5 days old the kid gave his first sigh. That seemed like the start of emotional manifestations . Yay ?

[thedog] Fifteen minutes left Share something great

[scrivs] thedog> While breast feeding that is .

[jperrott] scrivs> Wow! Eating meat already?

[scrivs] thedog> Is the chief point of all exercises to unify will?

[Tony] thedog>

[Sarah] jperrott> I have shown Saul the ‘Dog training for magnetic center’ page-and it is these points he was/and is focusing on.He had expressed a wish to then look at CS.I have suggested that he talk to you re attending classes.Should he also talk with you prior to studying CS??

[Sarah] jperrott> ch.4

[Sarah] J.Markham> Hi Mum

[thedog] scrivs> G’s model doesn’t have the second totality in function yet, however it sure must alresdy be there in it’s infancy. But perhaps sighing is an instinctive response to feeling safe…

[jperrott] Sarah> He may do those exercises and start studying CS as from now – if he wants to.

[J.Markham] (June)sarah>Hi Sarah and everyone

[scrivs] Shirl said you’ve already sent a script on ‘critical’. Have yet to read it . Thanx.Tony>

[Sarah] gary> Happy Bithday for tomorrow Gary.I hopeto catch you at some time.;-)

[Tony] scrivs>

[thedog] J.Markham> Hi June Share your BEST MOMENT

[gary] Sarah> thank you

[Tony] scrivs> Did you get answers to questions about the game?

[scrivs] thedog> That’s about my take on it too. Plus the satisfaction of repeating a new habit.

[Sarah] jperrott>Magnetic center exercises??

[jperrott] Sarah> He could attend classes also – but I prefer to allow people to see what they can do for themselves initially.

[scrivs] Tony> Nope . Forgot. Will doso.

[Sarah] jperrott> Yes-I have said the same.He doesnt wish to attend class until he had completed his read of the 4th way ‘at least once’

[jperrott] Sarah> Yes.

[scrivs] The Rumple is a metaphor—-but for what ??

[J.Markham] (June) >the dog Been to London for a few days seeing Paul and taking grand daughter Aisha for her first view of the big city and it has been quite a new experience seeing things through her eyes – a taste of being a child again – joyous !

[thedog] J.Markham>

[J.Markham] (June) – Hello Ken and Shirley !

[Sarah] jperrott> I heard from Dominic recently.His last outburst cost him his force to date and he has been ‘flat’.I noticed his focus of attention is primarily on intellectual pursuits rather than work on being.I suggested that he simply rest,observe and do the exercises you suggested.

[jperrott] J.Markham> Has Paul still got his CS act together – as far as you know?

[thedog] The incessant Heropass has us down to eight minutes left. Any more questions?

[jperrott] Sarah> It’s a very common error – amongst men; let’s hope he takes your advice.

[Tony] thedog> What is a time body?

[Sarah] jperrott> ….and there was a pause left with the idea that he could call you present within it should he have the ground to notice it.

[Sarah] jperrott> Did u receive my message to u re the film??

[jperrott] Sarah> Yes thanks.

[Sarah] ……and to all who may be interested-the film ‘Touching the void’ is a meaningful watch.

[csmith] I checked on it at the local Blockbuster. That store doesn’t carry it, so I’ll search elsewhere.

[J.Markham] (June) >JPERROTT> not been doing anything on CS or the exercises – still somewhat cynical about it but is willing to go further when you return

[thedog] Tony> When one stands apart from the moment of the line of his life and can see the whole line. One can then change the perception of a previous moment, and thus the line that followed.

[Sarah] scrivs> .and to you…….xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[gary] jperrott> whilst running I observe the movement, this vivifies the sensing this in turn stops the thoughts or at least enables me too. how does this relate to the 1st shock octave ?

[scrivs] thedog> Board Game. If one reaches ‘Nothing’, does that stand as a state of ‘I’, since all previous states seem to be subsumed under it ?

[scrivs] thedog> Which would make 7 sates of ‘|I’.

[Sarah] csmith> It is worth the effort-:-D

[jperrott] gary> I see it as having a greater significance in relation to the 2nd; a contribution to self-remembering.

[thedog] scrivs> Not a state if “I” but rather a higher gradation of Master.

[csmith] Good night dear friends and loved ones. See you next time.

[scrivs] thedog> Ta.

[thedog] Bye Charles

[Sarah] csmith> N night Charles.x

[jperrott] csmith> Bye charles!

[J.Markham] Good night to you all x June M

[Sarah] J.Markham> Night Mum-c u tomorow.x

[thedog] GONG GONG Time’s up! Thanks for being here and thank you for your participation. See ya’ll next week.

[gary] jperrott> 2nd shock octave – the intention , 1st shock octave

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