England/America

[thedog] Best Moments

[Tony] thedog> I was overwhelmed when I saw how much work was needed to be done on myself

[thedog] Best Moment was hearing from ken that he will be here on Thursday

[gary] b/m remembering again, to listen, inside and outside

[thedog] Tony> That is Law-conformable. What is miraculous is that you can see it

[thedog] gary> How are we on a scale from 1 to 10?

[stevew] Best moment was realising that I had had “being” all along but had not been awake to it.

[gary] thedog> 7

[thedog] gary> Is 7 your choice?

[gary] thedog> no, so i will do i am’s

[thedog] gary> Good, choose to be a 10….then let me know when you have attained it.

[thedog] stevew> What prompted you to make that worthy observation?

[stevew] thedog> Reading Benoit’s “The Supreme Doctrine” and verifying everything as I went along.

[thedog] stevew> perhaps you are now ready for Double or Nothing Part II

[stevew] thedog> The realisation suddenly crashed on me as to the root of my FP and inner considering and that it was all based on an illusion!

[thedog] stevew> Bravo!

[bubbles] Greetings all. One best was working on C.S. assignment sheet. Jon

[thedog] There are two realities’…that which is real and that which we create as real for us.

[stevew] thedog> JP suggested re-visiting Double or Nothing part 2, also. I have been doing HF on his question.

[thedog] stevew> Mr. Wheeler .. I wish I had you abilities I’d be smokin’…

[thedog] stevew> You’ll probably be the one who figures out the coefficient of the Cosmic Rumple

[stevew] thedog> We are each just an accident of nature within a law-conformable framework.

[thedog] stevew> See how well you said that

[sarah] thedog> The standing down of parts who are now happy to be re-educated with the structure-having seen that emotional experience and intellectual analysis do not equal reason.

[thedog] Who has another Best Moment or a question

[gary] thedog> am done – 10

[thedog] sarah> Good Sarah! Reason is apart from parts and requires the whole

[Tony] thedog> If the moon is Re the bottom of creation then how can earth become a Sun and the moon an earth

[thedog] Tony> Man will take life to the moon, therefore the Earth will be functioning like a Sun..the life giver…and then the moon will, with life on it, be like an earth

[scrivs] thedog> JP giving Shirl a filip re. her inner life –towards the real Shirl.

[gary] scrivs> whats a”filip” ?

[sarah] thedog> Seeing that presence momentum is the same process as unfolds to create a habit. Impressions enetr once and then twice and are recorded in the intellectual center.

[Tony] thedog> what does gnashing of teeth refer to?

[scrivs] gary> Sort of a boost. A friendly jolt.

[thedog] gary> Remember the process you followed to get from a 7 to a 10; that will serve you well

[gary] scrivs> thanks

[sarah] ……..thedogbut when we make it conscoius we move it in the opposite direction

[scrivs] gary> At your service !

[csmith] I’m on my way to an appointment and just wanted to say “hi”. “HI”

[thedog] Tony> In the Bible it is what is the fate of those who are suppose to know but do not become it. Darkness (sleep) and gnashing of teeth (don’t know what that actually means, but I’d try to avoid it)

[sarah] thedog> Seeing clearly that it is all here -all we need-heaven and earth-the whole caboodle-.It is just wether we have eyes to see it-emotions to bear it-and intellect to undersatnd it(built one on top of the other)

[scrivs] csmith> Charles! If you happen by The Dog from Thursday fortnight I’d be happy to shoot the breeze with you.

[thedog] sarah> This is truth Sarah.

[sarah] thedog> Seeing that each apparent obstacle is a gateway-and again, all material.We accidentally reflect and oppose.When we are in the state of doubling-we can choose

[scrivs] stevew> May I ask you what was special about the ‘I AM’ ex. in group 8 days ago ?

[scrivs] Was not there myself.

[stevew] scrivs> Both Su and Alison found great force in it. JP had said “finish as if this is the last time you will do it” and both took him literally.

[csmith] Best moment for me was discovering for the first time Napolean Hill’s 1937 book, “Think and Grow Rich.” While I am not so much interested in growing rich, the principles and exercises seem wonderfully suited for the accumulation of expertise in the Work.

[scrivs] stevew> Thanx.

[thedog] sarah> What starts a philosophical idea must become theoretical and ultimately practical. If we could just manifest what we philosophize, our journey would be complete.

[scrivs] stevew> I found last Sat’s I AM very strong. The holding of the intention -even for the short time it takes to complete one I AM.

[thedog] sarah> To know, in order to Be and to Do.

[csmith] thedog> Napolean Hill’s exercises can provide a map for some to manifest what is philosophized.

[thedog] gary> Still choosing that 10

[csmith] thedog> as you already know!

[Tony] thedog> If we are trying to get free of externals then how do external things hold enjoyment and not become neutral?

[gary] thedog> in ‘In Search ofthe Miraculous’ p.170, why/how does nitrogen become carbon in the second triad ?

[stevew] scrivs> We could try reminding ourselves to do it more often

[sarah] thedog> It seems to me that when an identification is awoken in my inner world-I can identify with the external manifstation or I can double and utilise the apparent adversity by choosing whether I reflect or or act an opposing part

[scrivs] stevew> Just so !!

[sarah] on the whole I reflect

[sarah] thedog> I dont ofeten feel confident to play God

[csmith] where’s John P today?

[thedog] gary> Don’t take the labels literally. A thing is a thing, when it acts to raise something else we call it a blue thing, when it is being raised by something else we call it a red thing, and when it is the result of some blending we call it a yellow thing. Hydrogen, Carbon, oxygen and Nitrogen

[stevew] Tony> For myself, I would suggest that getting free of attachment to things does not diminish our potential joy in them.

[scrivs] stevew> I forgot the

[thedog] are just labels for the thing, the blur thing, the red thing and the yellow thing.

[stevew] scrivs> Gotta remember to smile

[scrivs] csmith> He’s out of his house. Redecorations . No computer to play with.

[csmith] gotta go for now. love to all. Charles

[stevew] csmith> JP and AMP are out of their house because it is being decorated, ao also away from the computer.

[thedog] sarah> The key is in understanding that we create our own realities. Once understood, we can create any reality that we wish .. and ultimately, no reality at all

[sarah] thedog>yes

[thedog] Tony> The key is in understanding that we create our own realities. Once understood, we can create any reality that we wish .. and ultimately, no reality at all. We choose to paint some as enjoyment and others as not. Your choice.

[thedog] Tony> If I gave you an old crusty piece of bread, you my not find it enjoyable .. unless you have had no food for three days … then you would find it very enjoyable.

[scrivs] thedog> Once I had the opportunity of ‘liking’ or ‘disliking ‘ Vaughan Williams Fantasy on a theme by Thomas Tallis. I chose to ‘like’ it , and have gotten enjoyment from it ever since. Time to reverse the thing ?

[thedog] Tony> So whatever that happens, I can find a place to either perceive it as enjoyable or not enjoyable. My choice

[thedog] scrivs> We seek impartially, to be able to like it and dislike it with the same strength … then we are free

[scrivs] thedog> That amounts to not having prejudice? No partiality then.

[thedog] “Things I once hated, I now love; things I once loved, I now hate”.

[thedog] scrivs> Yee-Haw, I think he’s got it

[scrivs] thedog> And am able to love or hate , at will?

[thedog] scrivs> A little child, for the most part, has no prejudices. He doesn’t know that black people should be thought of differently

[thedog] sarah> Love AND Hate simultaneously

[scrivs] thedog> Had a chat witha teacher today. He did not understand what prejudice meant. he ‘reasoned’ how and why he could hate this thingy.

[stevew] thedog> Perhaps better to say that his prejudices are simpler – more direct and the result of his own instincts rather than hearsay?

[sarah] thedog> justice

[thedog] scrivs> Such is the nature of man, he justifies the reality he chooses to believe.

[thedog] stevew> Well said. See how great you are

[gary] thedog> As i reported last week, that by stopping thoughts, creating the shocks at SO/MI , finding myself in the middle- seeing down and up, would the latter be scale one, the oscillations ?

[thedog] sarah> Just us!

[stevew] thedog> You young rogue!

[thedog] gary> Don’t quite understand you question .. be more explicit please

[thedog] gary> Better yet, ask Steve. He is my hero

[scrivs] stevew> May well be so. It don’t come to mind.

[stevew] gary> What did you mean by “creating the shocks and SO/MI”?

[scrivs] Search for thr Hero inside yourself. Look for the secrets you hide…until you find the key to your life . ( Pop song ).

[stevew] gary> (Sorry, “at” not “and”.)

[thedog] gary> I would say at first glance, it sounds more like finding a center of gravity for yourself, which could be a point of oscillation, if you choose it!

[Tony] thedog> is being, being awake and present?

[stevew] gary> Stopping thoughts can give a break in the momentum of your major oscillation … and you can then make whatever vibration you are at into any note you choose.

[thedog] Tony> Man is manifest in two parts, what he knows and what he is. What he is, is his being, which might not match, yet, his knowledge .. but knowledge comes first. Then we try to become it.

[thedog] stevew> Listen to you … you wise man

[gary] stevew> the force created by stopping thoughts put me some where, i saw that uncontrolled imagination leads down and the effort enabled me to see just that – it occurred to me that this seeing of two directions maybe connected to the oscillations ?

[thedog] DONG DONG our time of chat has expired. Thanks for participating. See you all next week. Love THE DOG

[Tony] Thank you

[thedog] I will wait for Steve’s response before disconnecting

[stevew] gary> Look at the structure … use controlled imagination to see what can be seen … then verify it.

[gary] stevew> okay, thank you.

[stevew] gary> I would recommend looking at major signposts first and worrying about scale much later.

[thedog] Thanks all once again … Dog …. Gone

Mexico/America

[thedog] Best Moments

[MigueAngel] Hello dear Master Teacher and Beloved Friend… Love You!!!

[thedog] Hello dear Master Student and Beloved Friend… Love You, too!!

[azavala] HELLO MY DEAR TEACHER AND MIGUEL MY LOVELY BROTHER

[thedog] azavala> Greetings my man of miracles

[MigueAngel] Hi everyone… My magnetic center moment today was not a good one It was during our beach exercise and the need to extend the process of our student for three days more in order to complete her Being exercises and her journal.

[thedog] gon> How are the ears?

[MigueAngel] Hola todos… mi momento de centro magnètico de hoy no fue uno bueno fue durante nuestro ejercicio de la playa y la necesidad de extender el proceso de nuestra estudiante por tres dìas más para completar sus ejercicios en el Ser y su diario.

[MigueAngel] Russ para Gonzalo: ¿Cómo andan tus oídos?

[thedog] I have a similar situation, the student is upstairs now trying to complete his journal, for to complete his journey tomorrow. We shall take stock in the morning and see where we go.

[azavala] MY BESTO MOMENT TODAY WAS WHEN I WAS HAPPY BECAUSE I HAD A STRONG NEGATIVE EMOTION!!!!.- ME MEMOR MOMENTO HOY FUE CUANDO ME PUSE FELIZ PORQUE TENÍA UNA FUERTE EMOCIÓN NEGATIVA!!!!

[MigueAngel] Russ dice que él tuvo una situación similar, el estudiante está en el cuarto de arriba tratando de completar su diario para completar su viaje mañana. Veremos lo que ocurre mañana por la mañana para ver a dónde vamos.

[gon] estan mejoramdo mucho. Lo mas importante es que todo se resuelve con granfacilidad y se que es el recultado de la practica de los ejercicios.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo a Russ: My ears are improving a lot. The most important is that everything gets solved easily and I know it is the result of the practice of the exercises.

[thedog] Ours is not so much a lack of effort but rather a challenge in the communications.

[thedog] gon> Bravo Sir

[MigueAngel] Russ dice que lo nuestro no es tanto una falta de esfuerzos sino un reto en la comunicaciòn.

[MigueAngel] Ours is also the same. She said she was feeling rebelious and then she didn’t listened the instructions, but as she didn´t practiced at all the threefold, I though she needed at least three days more for being exercises. Anyhow, I would like your opinion on this.

[thedog] MigueAngel> I would stake my life on your evaluation sir, i.e., being correct .. so, three more days it is

[MigueAngel] Lo nuestro es también lo mismo. Ella dijo que se estaba sientiendo rebelde y entonces no escuchò las instrucciones, pero comono practicò del todo el ejercicio triple, pensé que necesitarìa al menos tres días más de práctica con los ejercicios sobre el Ser. Sin embargo, me gustaría saber tu opinión.

[claudia] buenas noches a todos.

[thedog] Holes and toads

[gon] Encuentro la respuesta adecuada tanto al planteamiento de la vida, como la respuesta a los demas

[MigueAngel] Russ dice: Yo apuesto mi vida a tu evaluación Sir, es decir que es correcta… así que, que sean tres días.

[azavala]

[MigueAngel] The students would like to know the meaning of: Holes and toads.

[MigueAngel] Los estudiantes gustarían del significado de : Holes and toads.

[thedog] MigueAngel> It is ENGLISH for “Hola todos” Holes and toads

[MigueAngel] Hola Joaquín y Claudia escriban su mejor momento de la semana.

[MigueAngel] Thank You Russ: Holes and Toads = Hola Todos…

[thedog] MigueAngel> Like “beans nachos and toads” are English for “buenas noches a todos”

[MigueAngel] Another best moment was receiving this Thursday two students from Canada, wishing to go through the process.

[thedog] MigueAngel>

[MigueAngel] Otro mejor momento para mi fue recibir este Jueves a dos estudiantes de Canadá, deseando ir a través del proceso del despertar.

[claudia] uno de estos fue sentir la presencia de Dios una tarde cuando mi hija me pidio atención jalando mi vestido y al agacharme me preguntó que si la quería, y de inmediato la levanté y abrazándola le dije que por supuesto que si y en ese momento Manuel también se unió a nuestro abrazo y el momento

[MigueAngel] Another one was knowing that Joaquín Wednesday Reading Group is groing big.

[claudia] culminó en besos, lágrimas y te quieros.

[MigueAngel] Otro momento fue saber que el grupo de lectura de Joaquín de los Miércoles está creciendo.

[thedog] joaquin> yee-haw !!

[thedog] My best moment was the Saturday night call to Miguel and Alfonso and hearing how Alfonso had a “best moment of my life” moment

[MigueAngel] Claudia says: One of these was to feel the presence of God one afternoon when my daughter asked for attention pulling my dress and when bending down she asked if I loved her and immediately I rised her and hug her and told her of course!!! and My son Manuel joined our hug and moment,

[MigueAngel] that ended with kisses and tears and I love yous…

[MigueAngel] Russ dice: mi mejor momento fue el Sábado al llamar a Alfosno y Miguel y escuchar a Alfonso mencionar su mejor momento de su vida.

[thedog] claudia> That sounds very beautiful and a very great gift you have to give your children.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Claudia: Eso suena muy hermoso y como un gran regalo que les diste a tus hijos.

[gon] He bailado solo y con pareja pero despegados. No podia dar bueltas y dirijir las bueltas de la pareja. Ahora lo logre y fue el mejor momento del fin de semana.

[joaquin] un momento de centro magnetico lo vivi tomando cafe con alexandra y james en compañia de claudia y mis hijos y ver la belleza del ser que emana de ellos

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo’s best moment: I have been danzin alone and with a couple but not together, detached. I wasn’t able to give turns and lead the turn of my couple dancer. Today I succeded and was the best moment of the weekend.

[MigueAngel] Joaquín best moment: I lived one drinking coffee with Alejandra and James and Claudia and my children and seeing the beauty of their being emmanating from them.

[joaquin] otro momento lo tuve al saludar a erik un amigo canadiense del trabajo a quien no veia hace años

[thedog] joaquin> I am very excited and happy for them both. I wish I could have been there to share in your moment

[MigueAngel] Russ a Joaquín, estoy muy emocionado y feliz por ambos. Me hubiéra gustado poder estar allí y compartir su momento.

[thedog] Any Cosmic Secrets Questions?

[claudia] Otro momento, el cual no fue muy agradable en mi trabajo de la vida, fue darme cuenta de la fragilidad de mi escencia al tratar de hacer amigos y darme cuenta que las personas tienen sus propios intereses.

[MigueAngel] Joaquín : another moment was saying hello to Erik, ou Canadian friend in The Work that I haven`t seen for years.

[MigueAngel] Claudia: another momente, which was not very pleasant in my job was to realize the fragility of my esence on trying to make friends and realize people have their own interests.

[thedog] claudia> yes, it is very important to see this, although unpleasant.

[claudia] cómo puedo saber que he terminado una octava y no que la haya abandonado?

[MigueAngel] Russ pregunta: ¿hay preguntas de Secretos Cósmicos?

[thedog] claudia> When we inner consider we are fragile, when we external consider we are invulnerable

[MigueAngel] Hello Carmen Salazar from Mexico City. Hola Carmen de Chilangolandia, bienvenida

[Carmen] hola russel y miguelangel pregunto por hector para saber como esta

[Carmen] yo tambien les mando saludos

[MigueAngel] Russ dice: Cuando consideramos internamento somos frágiles, cuando consideramos externamente somos invulnerables.

[MigueAngel] Carmen Says hello and is asking about Hector.

[thedog] Carmen> Hola todos Carmen. Your Husband is becoming a very good hugger and working very hard at his studies.

[MigueAngel] Carmen> Russ te dice: Tu esposo se está volviendo un gran abrazador y está trabajando duro en sus estudios.

[thedog] Carmen> We hope to complete his journey tomorrow … We shall check his progress in the morning, but I think he will be ready

[MigueAngel] Carmen, usualmente compartimos al llegar cuál ha sido el mejor momento de nuestra semana. Compártenos el tuyo.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Carmen: Esperamos completar su viaje mañana.. Checaremos su progreso por la mañana, y pienso que va a estar listo por la mañana para su April Fools.

[MigueAngel] Carmen, podrías escribirnos el nombre completo de Héctor?

[MigueAngel] ¿no tienen preguntas los demás?… aprovechen la hora muchachos!!!

[Carmen] Hector López Montalvo

[MigueAngel] ¡Tener un maestro consciente vivo y en lìnea no es de toda la vida!!!!

[thedog] MigueAngel> Gracias

[Carmen] estar conciente cuando nos avisaron que nos desalojarian esta semana de la casa y poder ovservar con tranquilidad que era solo un mal entendido

[MigueAngel] I am telling them to ask questions, because to have an alive conscious teacher and online is not very frequent in life!!!

[claudia] tengo una pregunta pendiente de responder, es respecto de las octavas.

[MigueAngel] Carmen best moment this week was to be conscious when they were notified they needed to leave the house they are renting and to observe with tranquility that it was just a misunderstanding.

[Hector] Hola a todos como estan

[MigueAngel] Claudia, ¡escríbela!

[Carmen] hola

[MigueAngel] Hola Héctor “CRisálido”… en proceso de ser mariposa!!!

[gon] Quiero mas informacion respecto a las octavas. Me convensen los datos y purevas que nos da el libro pero no se como manejar todo ese maravilloso conocimiento.

[claudia] ¿Cómo puedo saber si he terminado una octava y no la he dejado incompleta?

[Hector] Como esta la familia Pames.

[Carmen] Hector> hola como has estado

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo says he needs more information about octaves. He agrees in the data and tests but he doesn’t know how to handle that wonderful knowledge.

[Hector] Estudiando duro

[Carmen] bien extrañandote mucho y esperando tu regresoHector

[Carmen] ese es mi amor

[MigueAngel] Claudia asks: How can I know if I have ended and octave and I have not let it incomplete?

[Hector] Espero estar por alla el 4 a las 16 yo tambien los extra;o

[Carmen] vero pregunto que cuando llegas por que no saben nada de ti todavia

[Hector] pensaba hablarale ma;ana por la tarde para quedar de acuerdo.

[gon] Eso es lo que por ahora me fricciona: saber que estoy ante un concimiento maravilloso y no saber como ocuparlo.

[Carmen] ricardo y rodrigo estan aqui con migo

[Hector] Dales un beso de mi parte y diles que los quiero mucho, tambien a Montse.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo comments: that is what cause friction in me; to know I am comfronting a wonderful knowledge and not to know how to use it.

[Hector] Ya debo irme bye.

[MigueAngel] Bye Hector, suerte mañana!!!

[Carmen] si

[MigueAngel] Hector> Dale duro a tu diario…

[Carmen] trabaja mucho y muy duro te extrañamos y mucha suerte

[MigueAngel] Hector> Y al ejercicio triple, el Threefold.

[Hector] Gracias Miguel. bye

[Hector] en eso estoy.

[Carmen] suerte

[Carmen] te amamos mucho

[gon] Veo y oigo de la malloria expresiones y palabras de admiracion y satisfaccion por el mensaje pero no una exposicion clara de su aplicacion. Bueno, a lomejor yo soy elsiego y sordo.

[MigueAngel] Querido amigo Gonzalo eso es consideración interna… y si tu lo dices…. ¡concedido!

[MigueAngel] La consideración interna es una reacción rápida del aparato formatorio a uno mismo… por lo tanto si la deseas aceptar así, ¡que así sea!

[thedog] Octaves are like preparing dinner, you know when you are done

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo is saying: I hear from almos everybody expressions and words of admiration and satisfaction because of the message, but not a clear exposition and its application. Well perhaps I am the blind and deaf.

[MigueAngel] I am answering to Gonzalo: Dear friend that is Inner Considering… y you say so… granted!

[thedog] gon> Knowledge of the structure is knowledge of ourselves; our right to have higher consciousness. Ask Alfonso what he experienced this week in studying the charts.

[MigueAngel] Inner considering is a fast reaction of the formatory apparat to oneself. therefore if you wish to accept it like that… so be it!

[MigueAngel] Russ dice: las octavas son com preparar una cena, tu sabes cuando ya está lista.

[thedog] gon> Only deaf in one ear

[MigueAngel] Russ a Gonzalo: El conocimiento de la estructura es el conocimiento de nosotros mismos; nuestro derecho de tener conciencia superior. Pregúntale a Alfonso lo que experimentó esta semana al estudiar las gráficas, las cartas.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Gonzalo: solamente eres sordo de un oído.

[thedog] Carmen> How is the presence of you presence?

[MigueAngel] ¿Cómo va la presencia de tu presencia?

[Carmen] aveces debil y otras clara y fuerte

[MigueAngel] Carmen to Russ: sometimes week and others clear and strong

[thedog] Carmen> Very good. Keep building on the clear and strong.

[MigueAngel] Carmen… ´¿podrías cometar qué ejercicios estás practicando? Would you tell us what exercises are you practicing?

[MigueAngel] Russ a Carmen: Muy bien. Manténte incrementando lo claro y fuerte.

[Carmen] el triple, contar, la mente en calma y la respiracion

[gon] Muchos aspectos de mi vida han cambiedo a mejor, de eso estoy sierto y doy las graicas a ti Roosell, Miguel, Las ideas y la Vida.

[MigueAngel] Carmes says: I am practicing the threefold, counting, and calming mind and breathing.

[thedog] Carmen> Fantastico

[MigueAngel] Gonzalos says his life has changes and thanks us, life and the ideas.

[thedog] DONG DONG our time of chat has expired. Thanks for participating. See you all next week. Love THE DOG

[Carmen] que mas puedo hacer?

[gon] Me retiro con los mas calurosos saludos. Gracias.

gon exits from this room

[MigueAngel] Russ dice: DING DONG!!! Nuestro tiempo del chat ha expirado. Gracias por participar. Los veo la semana próxima. Los Amo. THE DOG

[thedog] MigueAngel> Your choice. I usually give then the first two by e-mail or over the phone, but either way it should be ok.

[MigueAngel] Carmen> Ya que mañana cumples tus dos semanas de Fool o Idiota de conformidad con Gurdjieff, recibirás tus primeros dos ejercicios maestros.

[Carmen] gracis hasta la otra semana

[thedog] Thank you all, again, each and everyone .. adios

[MigueAngel] Te los envío más tarde para que mañana los busques en tu correo, ¿me escribes por favor tu correo? estoy en mi casa y no lo tengo.

[MigueAngel] Bye Russell

[Carmen] si, [email protected]

[azavala] ADIOS A TODOS Y MUCHOS SALUDOS.!!!!!!

[MigueAngel] OK Buenas noches a todos y te estoy enviando tus ejercicios Carmen…

[Carmen] gracias,me podre a practicarlos

[MigueAngel] Una pregunta más ¿tienes messenger?