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[bubbles] Time for a change in direction? My best was realizing involution and evolution.

[jperrott] While he’s thinking, are there Best Moments to report?

[bubbles] jperrott> yes

[Tony] jperrott> Best Moment : getting out of a bad state

[jperrott] Mine was that my eldest son and I began the study of CS today!

[thedog] BEST MOMENTS

[jperrott] Tony> Shareable?

[thedog] jperrott> Great Best Moment.

[Tony] jperrott> I was getting identified with this problem and that problem for a couple of hours, and an ‘I Am’ got me out

[bubbles] jperrott> That is glorious good news Mr. P. I have no doubt the active part of your arising will profit…should he wish to .

[stephen] my best moment has been reading the fourth way and getting more insights, especially today reading about not being able to “do”

[jperrott] Tony> Wonderful! That’s the way to do it. Use what works!

[stephen] i found that i have been working for a while on the assumption that “I” can do, and it makes me be less forgiving with myself than maybe i should

[bubbles] stephen> Yeehaw. That’s where the work can begin.

[thedog] Tony> Bravo, Toney!

[jperrott] bubbles> Thanks Jonny and, of course, you’re right.

[jperrott] stephen> Isn’t it wonderful to be able to read something and see that – “It does apply to me”! 😉

[jperrott] stephen> Start with “everything is false personality” – can I find anything which isn’t?

[stephen] jperrott> and try to see how much or little it does apply

[jperrott] stephen> …because, if I can, it just might be me! 😉

[bubbles] jperrott> Perfect Mr. P. Begin with learning there is no unification in what i call I.

[thedog] Best Moment: scrivs

[stephen] is it true to think that the part of me interested in the Work is not false personality because it seems like it could be

[scrivs] thedog> Discovering something close to Objective Walking by question reason and experiment.

[jperrott] stephen> Certainly could be! As soon as you (in Essence) were drawn to the Work – he took charge!

[bubbles] stephen> Maybe the part of you interested in the Work is Magnetic Center .. DOING

[jperrott] stephen> He musn’t let anuone get out from under! 😉

[stephen] false personality does not want to awake, it can’t, but it still seems like it can try to come in and allow one to have an ego, e.g. some of the foundation people who aren’t awake but think they are

[jperrott] stephen> Sooner, or late, we have to take on the tyrant!

[jperrott] stephen> The tyrant(s) have to assume they are awake – as the starting position.

[jperrott] thedog> It is said that, “to err is human”. I would say, “only a human might err”!

[thedog] Charles e-mailed me to say he couldn’t join our chat but wanted to send his love to all…so, Love from Charles

[scrivs] Tony> You ok for bookwork this Sat. morning ? To save on travel.

[jperrott] thedog> I really enjoyed reading Ken’s (highers) letter to himself!

[thedog] jperrott> I would agree. Every other species is law-conformable.

[jperrott] thedog> Nearest I’ve seen for a long time to “reasonable reflection”.

[stephen] jperrott> is his letter available to all?

[thedog] jperrott> Yes, I, too, think it was honest and brilliant. He must have copied it out of some book.

[jperrott] scrivs> Ask Ken! He is in charge of the answer.

[jperrott] thedog> Need the book’s title. Jajajajajaj!

[scrivs] stephen> Yep. It might be on Forum. If not –ask. If I’m awake–try me. If I’m asleep, wake me !!

[jperrott] scrivs> Don’t struggle – it’s on the Forum (under U.K. and Member’s Lounge).

[jperrott] scrivs> Unfortunately I emerge as the author – since it was me that had signed on! ;(

[thedog] jperrott> I sent you out an octave test 4, as we added another test, today, for the class’ perfection of octaves as homework for next week.

[jperrott] scrivs> But the ‘Subject’ put that to rights.

[jperrott] thedog> Tank you sorr!

[scrivs] jperrott> Beats me.

[jperrott] scrivs> What “beats you”? Fight back!

[scrivs] jperrott> Where is this ‘back’? I’ll kick ass!

[Tony]>[thedog] Hi Russ, I had a lingering question from last week, What is the difference between hypnotism used in healing and techniques used in April fools?

[scrivs] thedog> Do we all get this new octave test soon /

[scrivs] Tony> We’ll play board game then. For what stakes ?

[thedog]>[Tony] Hypnotism is based on suggestion. April fools is based on rules. I can suggest that a lemon is not sour and the hypnotized person will not taste the sour. But that is an illusion. It is better to know the rules, wherein sour remains sour and sweet, sweet

[jperrott] scrivs> I suspect he assumes that, if I’ve got it, we’ve got it – as and when it becomes relevant. He probably trusts me to that degree!

[thedog] scrivs> I sent it to JP, whom will use it, as and when needed.

[jperrott] scrivs> There you go! Ain’t that wonderful?

[stephen] i am enjoying the letter

[thedog] stephen> Good, perhaps you will write one to yourself.

[stephen] i had better start making bigger efforts before it becomes a cliché

[scrivs] thedog> The 2p and the 5s both have Hoots with just 2 external vibrations . Can we not see the external results which this 2p Hoot will manifest ? That may be daft , but…….

[jperrott] stephen> Good exercise in applying Reason to oneself don’t you think?

[stephen] jperrott> yes

[thedog] stephen> It is not so much that of making bigger efforts as it is that of making many efforts.

[jperrott] scrivs> Good feeling!

[Tony]>[thedog] I have noticed I get in deeper states using ‘hypnotism’ than I can by myself?

[scrivs] thedog> Is there not a danger that simply counting moments of remembering to remember –and not actually trying to remember —-might develop a habit that is counter productive ?

[stephen] higher> if your attempts count, COUNT YOUR ATTEMPTS

[jperrott] scrivs> That which doesn’t work, of course.

[stephen] bubbles> i haven’t been counting well lately

[thedog] scrivs> I think the idea is to count the moments of actually attempting it. The number of attempts will match the number of rememberings.

[Tony] jperrott> If I try to remember myself when i am going to sleep (at night) I can’t get to sleep

[scrivs] thedog> That makes sense. Ta.

[jperrott] Tony> Associations continue throughout sleep – without disturbing us (except in dreams). If the Reminder continues during sleep. it will have the same result. Remember, it is the Reminder we are repeating – not the actual self-remembering.

[bubbles] Very profitable. Thank you all for offering the good food.

[stephen] thedog> what is involved in making an attempt, it’s not just remembering to do it?

[thedog] scrivs> Your 2p-5s question was not ignored, just unanswered in me at present. Perhaps it can be answered later, maybe…by you.

[scrivs] thedog> If we are reminded, and do not make an attempt to remember, then might we not develop a habit of ‘not making the attempt ‘ ??Danger ?

[jperrott] scrivs> # 8!

[jperrott] If we take for granted the good habits of our Jacks, we deserve all we get!

[thedog] stephen> If I ask where am I (1-10), say a 9, then I try to change my state. Regardless of whether I do or not, I still made an attempt to do so. With massive efforts to attempt, the act of attempting will become automatic. Then my Jack works for me, for it activates my Queen.

[scrivs] Hear hear !

[stephen] thedog> thank you. i know i’ve asked that several times

[scrivs] thedog> Massive efforts = massive number of efforts ,must be so I guess.

[jperrott] stephen> It’s far too simple for you to take in first time! 😉

[thedog] DONG DONG. The time has expired, thanks for participating. See you all next week.

[jperrott] Hears bell – looks around – smiles at Friends – bows out!

[thedog]>[Tony] I use suggestion, myself. It is all suggestion any way, isn’t it?

[stephen] thanks everybody

[stephen] goodbye

[Tony] Thanks Russ, everyone

[thedog] Dog Gone.

America / Mexico

[MigueAngel] Good evening my dear Master Teacher and Beloved friend.

[MigueAngel] Buenas Noches mi querido Gonzalo.

[thedog] Hello Miguel, my great pursuer of making butter from air.

[MigueAngel] gon> Recuerda que de entrada Russ nos pide nuestro mejor momento de la semana, así que dispara!!!

[MigueAngel] I am reminding Gonzalo to write his best moment.

[gon] Que tal Miguel, me siento muy feliz, con la presencia casi continua, el mayordemo muy alerta y todo bien. Lloro por nada y rio por nada.

[thedog] Best Moment mejor momento

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo says: hello there, I feel very happy, with my presence almost continue and the Steward very alert and everything ok. I cry for nothing and laugh for nothing.

Berthina enters this room

Verónica enters this room

[Berthina] My best moment was this Friday while eating with the students and splashing my drinking water on all without experiencing inner considering, wow!!! like a child!!!

[Verónica] Hola, buenas noches a todos

[thedog] gon> magnifico

[MigueAngel] Berthina dice que su mejor momento fue el Viernes mientras comía con los estudiantes y salpicándolos con lo que estaba tomando y sin experimentar consideración interna, como una niña!!!

[Berthina] What I experienced after viewing my splashing was a whole presence and then….¡NOTHING!!! …..

[thedog] Berthina> Sounds great Berthina

[gon] Sin pedirlo me ofresen la venta de la artesania que hago. Me regalaron las flores para complementar. todo comenso aldespertar cuando decidi que hoy es mi septimo dia.

[MigueAngel] Berthina dice que lo que experimentó despues de ver su salpicar fhe una presencia total y luego… NADA!!!

[thedog] Verónica> Holes, beans, nachos and toads to you, too

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo says: Without asking I have been offered saling my handcrafting. They gave me the flowers to complet that and everything started today while doing my sevent day.

Cristina enters this room

[thedog] Berthina> When you got to nothing was it because you were out of water?

[Verónica] Ayer, tuvimos reunión de Fools y el compartir con todos los que estuvieron presentes me dejo en la calma así como experimentar mi presencia con la presencia de ellos, fue hermoso

[MigueAngel] Russ a Verónica: Hoyos, frijoles, nachos y sapos para ti tambien…

[Berthina] hahahah, yes that’s it.

[thedog] gon> Great! They recognize your talent.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Gonzalo: ¡Grandioso! Reconocieron tu talento.

[thedog] Tell me about your massive attempts to remember to remember yourselves?

[MigueAngel] Russell está esperando que escriban su mejor momento de la semana

[MigueAngel] Los que ya escribieron su mejor momento escriban cómo les ha ido con sus intentos masivos por recordar recordarse a sí mismos.

[Cristina] thedog> My best moment was today in the morning, I was walking with thw master exercises, and I feel the presence to hard, I wake again it was especial

[MigueAngel] Cristina> Ahora tradúcelo por favor querida Cris.

[thedog] My best moment was reading the responses of my beloved friend, Miguel, to someone who has wandered from the path; and Miguel’s kindness and the gentleness yet absolute firmness of his hammer. He is truly becoming a Good Dog.

[Cristina] mi mejor momento fue hoy en la mañana, estaba caminando haciendo los ejercios maestros y sentí la presencia muy fuerte, como que volví a despertar, fue una sensación muy grata

[MigueAngel] Russ dice que su mejor moemtno fue leyendo las respuestas de su amado amigo Miguel, a álguien que se ha extraviado en el sendero, y la gentileza de Miguel y sin embargo ls firmeza de su martillo. Realmente se está volviendo un verdadero Buen Dog.

[Verónica] He tenido la oportunidad de verificar que todos son momentos invaluables para estar presente, para sentir y darme cuenta que estoy y soy.

[Cristina] MigueAngel> hola Mike, ya listo para venir a nuestra ciudad?

[gon] Dias como hoy, en los cuales no tengo otras cosas que atender: claces, lavores de casa, algun trabajo, etc. me es facil mantener elrecordar recordar la el impulzo de la presencia. Estoy tratando de realizarlo todo el tiempo.

[Verónica] Que aunque me encuentre en harnel aoot, tengo con que trabajar.

[MigueAngel] Verónica to Russ: I have had the opportunity to verigy that every moment is invaluable to be present, to feel and realize that I am here and I am.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo says that he is trying to practice all day the presence momentum.

[thedog] Verónica> Mucho teriffico Veronico!

[gon] Ahora puedo observar los aconteceres del mundo y la relacion de ellos con la maquina independientes de Mi.

[Verónica] Miguel, le puedes preguntar a Russ: ¿qué relación hay con la edad y el ser?

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo says he is now able to watch the happenings of the world and the relation with them, with the machine independent of HiMSELF.

[MigueAngel] vERONICA ASKS: What is the relation between age and being?

[felix] Hi everyone, Pats are champions

[thedog] Verónica> Age is how old you are. Being is what you are.

[Cristina] felix> Hola precioso como te fue?

[MigueAngel] Russ a Vero: La edad es que tan vieja eres. El ser es lo que eres.

[Verónica] Gracias

[felix] Me fue bien En Vallarta, la clase muy ilustradora, la compañia siempre perfectaCristina

[MigueAngel] Recuerden que este es un Chat con nuestro maestro Russ, no pierdan tiempo en cortesías mecánicas, por favor.

[MigueAngel] ¿Qué preguntas tienen? Russ pregunta por sus esfuerzos masivos en el intento de recordar recordarse a si mismos.

[felix] thedog> is it really an age when you can no longer become awake? if someone is cristalized over several years, and then try to awake by a different metod, is it possible?

[MigueAngel] I am telling them to formulate their questions and stop associations.

[thedog] Verónica> A good example would be Miguel; he has aged two years since he found THE DOG, but grown decades in being

[MigueAngel] Russ a v

[felix] pregunto si es posible despertar cuando uno ya es grande o se ha cristalizado muchisimos años a traves de metodos distintos, es posible aun despertar?

[thedog] felix> Everything needs right conditions and time. Could a 60 year old man play for the Pats?.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Verónica: Un buen ejemplo sería Miguel; él tiene dos años desde que encontró The Dog, pero el ha crecido décadas en su ser.

[felix] mmh.. I dont think so………..no lo cre

[felix] thedog> but could he decristalized …… and start all over again?

[felix] pregunto que no creo que alguien de 60 pueda jugar futbol, pero pregunto si puede descristalizarse y empezar de nuevo

[thedog] felix> See Life is Real Only Then When I Am: the section near the end on the three totalities of functioning and the predetermined times in life, which differ for males and females, when the totalities begin functioning and for how long they can be altered.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Felix, Todo necesita condiciones correctas y tiempo. Podría un viejo de 60 años jugar con los Patriotas de futbol americano?

[MigueAngel] Russ a Felix: Ve en “La

[Verónica] Russ: es importante saber en dónde, en mi, se encuentra el Centro Magnético?

[MigueAngel] Cuando Yo Soy, la sección cerca del final sobre las tres totalidades de funcionamiento y los tiempos predeterminado en la vida, que difieren en hombres y mujeres, cuando las totalidades empiezan funcionando y por cuanto tiempo pueden ser alteradas.

[gon] Hay aspectos en que la edad de la maquina es bien nototia, consecuancias del traqueteo. Por lo demas si la vidaa me da suficiente tiempo, Yo me siento totalmente caapas de llegar hata el M

[MigueAngel] Vero to Russ: Is it important to know where is located in me the Magnetic Center?

[gon] MAS ALLA DEL MAS ALLA………..

[thedog] felix> Common sense says some machines can be put right and some cannot. Just, don’t you be the latter.

[felix] Verónica> No creo que este localizado en o cerca del cuerpo fisico.

[felix] thedog> Thanks!!

[MigueAngel] Gonzalos replies: There are aspects in the age of the machine that is notorious, because of the hard life or so. But no matter what if life gives me enough time, I feel totally capable of going further more that beyond…

[MigueAngel] Russ a Felix: El sentido coún dice que algunas máquinas pueden ser corregidas y otras no. Simplemente no seas de los que no.

[MigueAngel] común

[Verónica] Gracias, por la respuesta

[thedog] Verónica> Magnetic center is like the children in a class room who wish for greater things but they are spread out, one in this group of kids (the sports group) another in this group of girls, another is one of the class clowns, another, a loner, etc. So we find them in many places.

[Berthina] Berthina pregunta a todos: ¿Cuando están leyendo y escribiendo, se acuerdan de recordar recordarse a si mismos y respirar las impresiones como el yo como cuando respiro?

[felix] Berthina> No Berthina, la verdad paso mas tiempo analizando las respuestas.

[MigueAngel] Berthina says: asking to everybody: When you are reading and typing, do you remember to remember yourselves and breath the impressions like when we say I eat when I breath?

[thedog] Berthina> Thank you for the reminding factor.

[Cristina] Berthina> algunas veces lo recuerdo con frecuencia, curiosamente cuando comienzo a comer con alguien y puedo observar que la otra persona solo como, me puedo dar cuenta de que tengo la opción de respirar cuando como, y lo hago, estar comiendo con alguien me lo facilita

[Verónica] No siempre. Me he dado cuenta que lo hago cuando le reporto a Miguel, cuando leo sobre el sistema, cuando estoy en el grupo, en ocasiones cuando platico comunmente con los estudiantes

[MigueAngel] Russ a Verónica: El centro magnético es como los niños en un salón de clases, y ellos desean grandes cosas pero están separados. Uno en este grupo de niños (los deportistas) otro en ese grupo de niñas, otro en el grupo de payasos y otro el solitario, etc. Así que los encontramos en muchos lugares.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Berthina: gracias or el factor recordante.

[Verónica] Corroborando, no se encuentra en ningun lugar específico de mi cuerpo físico, es correcto?

[MigueAngel] Verónica answers to Berthina: Not always. I have realized I do it when I report to Miguel, when I read about the sistem, when I am in the group and ocasionally when I talk with the students.

[MigueAngel] Cristina answers: Sometimes when I eat with someone and watch that he or she just eats and I have the option of breathing when eating.

[MigueAngel] Cristina, tu estás hablando del otro ejercicio, del “Yo respiro cuando como” y Berthina habla del “Yo como cuando respiro.”

[MigueAngel] Vero to Russ: just as a corroboration, the magnetic center is not located in any specific place in the physical body, right?

[thedog] Verónica> Great! Imagine that you are reporting everything to Miguel, That you are always reading (seeing) truths about the system, that there are many of you, so you are always in a group, and that you are the student that you are always talking to.

[MigueAngel] Berthina makes the correction that she is speaking of the exercise: “I eat when I breath and not I breath when I eat”.

[Cristina] MigueAngel> solo me refería a un ejemplo de recordar recordarme

[gon] Ocuparse de la localisacion fisica, en lugar de observar que todas son partes de un todo que se pude contemplar consentido comun. No nos traeria mas hacia nuestra entegracion?

[thedog] MigueAngel> It does have more of a concentration in the Emotional Center, as all magnetic center moments contain a high degree of meaning…a property of the Emotional center.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Vero: ¡Grandioso! Imagina que estás reportando todo a Miguel, que siempre estás leyendo (viendo) las verdades acerca del sistema, que hay muchas “tus” así que siempre estás en un grupo y que tu eres la estudiante a la que siempre estás hablando.

[MigueAngel] Russ contesta: El centro magnético tiene una mayor concentración en el Centro Emocional, ya que todos los momentos de centro magnético contienen un alto grado de significado… una propiedad del centro emocional.

[Verónica] Gracias, Russ. Tu respuesta me reverbero y se asomaron las lágrimas.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo asks: to work in locating the physical point instead of observing that everything is part of a whole and that it is possible to contemplate with the comun sense, wouldn’t that bring us more to our integration?

[thedog] GONG GONG .. Time has expired. Thanks for participating. See you all next week. I love each and everyone of you.

[felix] All Good dogs dont go to heaven. We ARE in Heaven!!

[MigueAngel] Vero to Russ: Thank you Russ your answer reverberated and I have tears.

[Verónica] Buenas noches a todos. Gracias por su compartir, saludos a Pamela, James y Deheta

[felix] Los Buenos DOGs no van al cielo. Ya estamos en el!!

[MigueAngel] Russ dice: DING DONG… El tiempo ha terminado. Gracias por participar. Los veo la siguiente semana. Los amo a cada uno y a todos ustedes.

[Cristina] felix> tengo que hablar contigo, te puedes dar de alta en msn porfa?

[MigueAngel] Thank you Russ, hear from you tomorrow morning. Love You.

[Cristina] Buenas nochea a todos y gracias

[Cristina] MigueAngel> Gracias por tus repuestas y traducciones

[Berthina] Bye bye.

[Berthina] Adios a todos, buenas noches.

[felix] Vallarta…gracias por todo, los amo

[thedog] Dog Gone

[Cristina] MigueAngel> ok

[Berthina] te veo en el messenger con los demás, soy miguel