[thedog] Hello my friends…Best Moments…

[bubbles] jperrott> Glorious thanks. One best for me was a joint project with Mr. Smith. It just gets better and better.

[jperrott] bubbles> Are you going to relate it to us?

[gary] b/m tomorrow can be a better day by just realising that its all going on outside of your self

[bubbles] jperrott> Repairing the toilet at Angie’s.

[csmith] still in awe of “everyone is present” higher feedback.

[jperrott] gary> Well, that’s an original and effective way of insulating oneself! )

[thedog] jperrott> Mr. Perrott, sir…we are fabulous, we had an exceptional class today with great indications of the force created Wednesday at you house as a result of the video…

[jperrott] csmith> That was a great message Charles! I suggest you try to encapsulate it for this group.

[csmith] thedog> tell us about the video.

[jperrott] thedog> Glad to hear it! )

[Tony] Best Moment: Felt as if in a bubble watching conversations going on around me.

[stevew] Best … finding force to keep up the Presence Momentum exercise for two days … a new push every few minutes … while visiting my parents.

[thedog] csmith> Deborah made a video for Jeff, which addressed some personal work needed by Jeffrey and it shocked him into confronting himself and all indications are that it seems to have worked.

[csmith] Russell asked the Sanger class on the first meeting of the year to consider “massive attempts”, so massive in fact, that a week later we could look back and not believe the progress that had been made. I began to consider how such a massive attempt might look.

[jperrott] thedog> By the way – the cause of the U.K. group’s slowness regarding the new ‘practice’ was that I thought you had e-mailed everybody and they don’t visit the Forum that often – so they didn’t even know about it!!! )

[csmith] I recalled during that same time period where Russ said, perhaps in a chat, that self-remembering is the equivalent of “everyone being present.”

[thedog] stevew> Great Steve!

[thedog] Tony> How long did that experience last and what entered that diminished it?

[csmith] What transpired is my asking on as many breaths as possible for as long as possible, “is everyone present?”

[stevew] Sad to see how much their attention and memory is failing … but at least they do not notice, which must be some sort of grace.

[csmith] There became such a nothingness in the machine that there was no room for anything: no inner considering (not even remnants lurking about in the jacks), no nothing.

[jperrott] stevew> Please let me know when you begin to observe that in me! By the way, do you own a shotgun?

[csmith] After practicing that for a while, there began to be higher feedback, unrequested (!): “everyone IS present.”

[bubbles] jperrott> Or a sharp whack to the trachea!

[stevew] jperrott> No shotgun … just a ham fist and a mouth-sized foot (or so it has seemed at times).

[Tony] thedog> Had to get up and leave the conversation and saw an escalator so started thinking about that. Still have a very relaxed feeling 2 days later

[bubbles] csmith> Don’t ya love it when an exercise works?!

[thedog] Tony> Great Tony…Was the escalator going up or down

[csmith] Then, every occasional flow of association began to be answered with: “everyone IS present.”

[Tony] thedog> Up

[jperrott] csmith> Thanks Charles. I hope your thread was noticed by everyone!

[thedog] csmith> If your home, copy and print what you described and put it in the Forum…That’s great stuff!

[jperrott] csmith> ..especially the last part!

[stevew] jperrott [I hope …]> Watching (internally and externally) with very great interest.

[csmith] jperrott> it’s been a great and humbling experience.

[jperrott] csmith> I guess that, once it becomes a full-time experience, those around you will call you and idiot – and you’ll know that you’ve ‘arrived’!

[thedog] scrivs> BEST MOMENT

[jperrott] csmith> s/and/an

[scrivs] thedog> Talking carefully to someone about the work, when they allegedly ‘hate gurdjieff’.

[jperrott] scrivs> Anyone I know?

[csmith] I may be an idiot–I had a conversation on the airplane with a stranger about the Work last night. He’s read Fourth Way and Man’s Possible Evolution but found the math unconvincing. I gave him the CS title and told him to check it out on Amazon and write me an email for more information.

[scrivs] jperrott> Rowan Mathews.

[stevew] tony> How are the bees coming along?

[jperrott] csmith> Sounds like authentic 2nd Line to me.

[csmith] a big step for me, which flowed naturally from a higher place. Everyone WAS present.

[jperrott] scrivs> As I remember, a great lady – we need more like her!

[scrivs] jperrott> Softly softly….she reckons on me. I may use that !

[Tony] stevew> It was an interesting teach-in although still work in progress

[thedog] gary> What other realizations have you seen, if there sharable

[jperrott] scrivs> I understand – but don’t wait until she’s dead!

[scrivs] jperrott> I’ve already begun………….

[jperrott] csmith> It’s a great report Charles – encouraging for all of us – even second time around.

[gary] thedog> seen different parts of IT , but still struggle to stop them manifesting

[thedog] gary> Remember that you only have to stop them, one at a time.

[jperrott] gary> It’s important to remember that consciousness enables one to see what there is to work on – it doesn’t immediately erase it all!

[Tony] thedog> Is ‘Reason’ a permanent state or does it just visit occasionally?

[gary] jperrott> wish it did !

[scrivs] thedog> Do the 3 particularities of the Harnel Aoot correspond in any way to the 3 foods, or consumption thereof ?

[thedog] Tony> It starts occasionally, but yes, reason can become permanent.

[jperrott] gary> This is only a belief in “gobble-de-gook” – as taught when we were young. The reality is that being awake enables one to see what needs attention – not some useless “paradise”.

[gary] thedog> have been trying to stop them all, seems wrong to let any of them through, so i pick one, and let the others through ?

[csmith] gary> following up on JP’s comment, I can say that it has been helpful to me to realize that after transformations, much is still stored in the jacks, which lingers about.

[thedog] scrivs> the 3 particularities deal with SO-LA intervals. The three foods deal with three outer octaves in an 8-10-12 ratio.

[jperrott] gary> …and then “paying attention” leads to Reality – a million times more satisfying than “paradise”! )

[jperrott] gary> Did I say “a million” only?

[gary] csmith> thank you !

[csmith] jperrott> posed another way, “Why would you settle for paradise, when you can have reality?”

[thedog] gary> It would be great to not let any through…but if I can not do that, I know, if I make one ‘my God’ I can stop it, there will be one less to stop.

[stevew] csmith> … And when we can see what is in the Jacks then we have a chance to edit it … to replace poor habits with better ones.

[csmith] jperrott> perhaps even better posed, “Why would you settle for paradise, when what you really desire is reality?”

[Tony] jperrott> Do the ‘I AM’s act as the 1st shock, air shocks blood?

[csmith] stevew> correct. or as the boss says, “yee ha!”

[jperrott] csmith> Because you don’t know that Reality is greater than Paradise and the latter is so much more peaceful than the earlier turbulance and so-o-o supportive of the idea of “I’ve made it!” 😉

[scrivs] csmith> ” Paradise is good only for a few days “. ( Maybe it was 3 days. I forget.)

[stevew] It is hard to strive for Reality when one does not know what that is … We don’t notice that we don’t know what Paradise is either, but we think we do.

[jperrott] Tony> The ‘I Ams’ bring the best possible unification of the Given and the Acquired (Essence and Personality (at the time you practice them.

[jperrott] stevew> Precisely – that’s the trap!

[thedog] stevew> Well said

[csmith] jperrott> Purgatory is described as paradise in A&E, no?

[jperrott] stevew> That’s why the section son mysticism in the library are so bulging; they all think they’ve made it! ;(

[thedog] stevew> But what we can know are the rules…and in that way know something about the game.

[scrivs] stevew> But we can get to a “high”—but do we use that ? For me — i usually indulge , thinking that the high is “it” , for the moment.

[jperrott] csmith> Ye-e-es! But only as a place to pass through – with the aim of Reality!

[gary] thedog> so we have essence which is one, and a false personality from which through working on our selves we can develop real personality ?

[jperrott] scrivs> How very honest – and generally true – and misleading; REMEMBER THAT! )

[thedog] csmith> Purgatory, in our inner world sense, would be conscience (higher emotional center function).

[csmith] jperrott> absolutement (with apologies to the French)

[scrivs] jperrott> Please outline the “misleading ” component of what you said. Ta !

[stevew] csmith> It seems to me that when we begin to be able to transform negative emotions then we have a chance to start real work … on being … knowing what we are doing.

[scrivs] jperrott> Don’t worry ! I withdraw the QU.

[thedog] gary> Yes, but we do have real personality; cat is spelled CAT. False personality believes that black cats are unlucky.

[jperrott] scrivs> It is “misleading” to accept a “high” as a place to dwell. It might feel like “completion” but it is temporary. On hitting a “high” ask Higher Feedback what to “go for ” NOW!

[csmith] stevew> I agree. but just when I think I’ve been able to transformation NE into PE, I reach a new state and station, and what went before seems like “child’s play.”

[stevew] csmith> Isn’t that just wonderful!?!

[scrivs] Actually, black cats are A. black , and B. catlike.

[scrivs] jperrott> Thanx.Good prompt. Quick too !

[jperrott] scrivs> Actually, from the point of view of Reality, it’s the other way round!

[jperrott] scrivs> I have to be quick – I’m getting old!

[csmith] You certainly know the French wine, Cotes du Rhone. There is a South African wine called Goats do Roam. Which is the higher?

[stevew] jperrott> If we have to choose between the quick and the dead then we want you quick!

[jperrott] csmith> Unbelievabubble!

[thedog] csmith> the second, because goats are still evolving

[scrivs] csmith> Try ” Fat Bastard ” ! Said to be good.

[jperrott] stevew> NIce one! Thanks for your (2nd Line) consideration.

[thedog] TEN MINUTES LEFT…Any more work questions.

[csmith] I’ll try FB. You might like GDR, as well. It is pleasant.

[jperrott] thedog> Bit more alive tonight, don’t you think?

[thedog] jperrott> Yes in deed

[csmith] jperrott> wonderful, stimulating chat.

[scrivs] thedog> What could possibly ‘ force’ the 3 forces in the Absolute ? Unless it’s just lack of suitable words .

[Tony] thedog> Vedic astrology and ideas of Transmigration of the sole are found in the vedas…Have been told the work originates from the vedas but astrology and reincarnation are said to be sacred cows?

[Tony] Soul

[thedog] scrivs> When an electron combines with a proton they become a neutron…all forces united. So you’ll have to get in side a star to watch it.

[bubbles] Tony> GOOD SAVE!!!

[Tony] bubbles>

[stevew] tony> Many people have interpreted the Vedas … many opportunities for real ideas to meet people with insufficient being to understand them … and thus to be corrupted.

[thedog] Tony> If it is not law-conformable then it is not law-conformable.

[csmith] is bubbles jon and nan or just one or the other?

[stevew] tony> Can we be sure that _we_ know what was meant by those terms? (I can’t.)

[bubbles] csmith> see 16:02:39(I’m Smilin)

[gary] jperrott> what is the significance of the displacement ratios in chapter two ?

[csmith] bubbles> got it!

[stevew] thedog> Have you found any significance behind the “boundaries of creation” being powers of 3 and 7?

[csmith] well, my clocks says it is after 22.00 gmt. So, I’m sending everyone my love and best wishes for the week. Look forward to the next time. Charles.

[Tony] Thanks all

[gary] jperrott> ok !

[thedog] stevew> No, I see only a cute coincidence But if you find something, let me know.

[jperrott] bubbles> Just testing your non-verbal body!

[bubbles] Adios Amigos.Jonny

[thedog] Any other questions, I’ll stay for them

[bubbles] jperrott> Thanks, Nan and I had a good common sharing on that very subject. That was one of my other bests. Love to you both. Don’t be strangers.

[stevew] thedog> In the Work Song, the Twelve Matters Moulding” are linked to Hydrogens … in the Ray of Creation diagram they are linked to fundamental points … are both correct?

[jperrott] Are we ( as they say in Texas) “done”?

[gary] What is meant by receiving for its functioning the automatic affluence of all forces which were near,does that mean all forces around me?

[thedog] stevew> Good question. Chapter 8 Fourth Way, Ouspensky maps twelve levels of matter in the Universe, using triads and fudging one the intervals to make it work. Fundamental points are fundamental points.

[jperrott] gary> It means, for example, that we wait for rain instead of watering the garden. It might be in time, but…!

[thedog] gary> A seed can get moisture to germinate from all moisture that is near,

[jperrott] gary> Any forces around you will tend to complet anything that is going on in you – whether, of not, you have intended it (them).

[stevew] thedog> Thanks. I’ll take that away and keep working on it.

[stevew] ‘Till next week …

[gary] jperrott> so i need to get out the watering can ! make efforts

[jperrott] gary> Precisely! Why wait for rain?

[thedog] Thanks for being here. GONG time,

[jperrott] thedog> Enjoy your GONG!

[scrivs] How are the shoulders ?

[thedog] jperrott> Give Alison a big hug from all of us.

[jperrott] thedog> Consider it done – one at a time!

[thedog] jperrott> Love to you Sir….DOG GONE

[jperrott] I’m off. Love and best wishes to all! )

[Claudia] HOLA, REGRESO AL RATO

[Claudia] Hola probando el chat

[csmith] good evening

[MigueAngel] HELLO GOOD EVENING ALL

[MigueAngel] Buenas noches Gonzalo

[csmith] good evening to you, my dear brother

[MigueAngel] csmith> Nice to read from YOU Brother!!!

[thedog] Best Moments

[jorge] Buenas noches a todos, estoy con yola, y les envia tambien saludos

[Cristina] Hola a todos. Hi Dog! and the Dog PV

[thedog] csmith> Your lost e-mail, John P will have a copy.

[thedog] Cristina> Hola Cristina

[csmith] my best moments revolve around some higher feedback I began to get in response to questions I posed the higher. The experience is posted in the Master section of the Forum.

[jorge] mi mejor momento fue el dia de ayer cuando realize mi horade quietud,y conviviendo con yolanda,e senti en 10

[thedog] MigueAngel> How was the emotional day on the beach with the new student?

[MigueAngel] Hello again, the emotional day was fantastic by words of Carmen Celina

[gon] Juaquin Corral y yo queremos aprender a registras las octavas que nos suceden en la vida.

[MigueAngel] Hola a todos el día emocional estuvo hoy excelente con el nuevo estudiante Carlos Quezada

[gon] Ahi va una, ya la habia mandado pero no tuve respuesta:

[gon] Do:decidi traducir un texto en Ingles como practica.

[gon] Re:allegue lo necesario:texto, diccionario,papel, pluma.

[gon] Mi:Habia palabras desconocidas que busque en el diccionario. Las escribi varias veces.

[MigueAngel] Charles dice: Mi mejor momento estuvo relacionado con algo de retroalimentación superior. Empece y tuve una respuesta a las preguntas. La experiencia la puse en el Forum en la sección de Masters.

[gon] Fa:Observe lo interesante del tema y me dio el impulzo emocional para seguir traduciendo.

[gon] Sol:Hice una sintecis mantal del tema, esto estimulo la atencio.

[gon] La:Comenzaron a fluir ideas que se relacionaban y le daban sentido a lo que hacia y persibia.

[gon] Si bserve que si bien el tema y el estudio de Ingles son interesantes, es mas interesaante el porque lo hago: quiero reavivar mis emociones y mis neuronas para tener la capacidad de persivir plenamente a mi S.E.S. y a mi S.I.S.

[MigueAngel] Jorge says: My best moment was yesteray durin my one hour laying still and spending time with Yolanda

[gon] Do: Quien quiere eso “SOY YO”

[Cristina] thedog> I have a question, I was studing the octaves, and I discovered that everything is an octave, so I have a question how can I discover an octave for creat my astral body?

[thedog] csmith> Just read your post in the Master section of the Forum. Great stuff. Thanks for posting it

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo asks: Joaquin and I want to know about the octaves in our lives.

[thedog] jorge> Fantastico!

[MigueAngel] Russell està preguntando primero acerca de sus momentos de centro magnético

[thedog] Cristina> Of the three octaves that create the lower, middle and upper stories, the middle force is the beginning of the octave of the Astral Body. As Miguel for the diagram and text concerning the three bodies. If he does not have it, I can send you one.

[MigueAngel] Joaquin dice: When going to Gonzalo to give him his keys forgotten in my car and returning to take them to him because my wife told me in the way: “remember… there is no failure in effort” and then with the energy provided by the shock we took the keys and search for Gonzalo!!!

[MigueAngel] Cristina pregunta: ¿Cómo puede ver la octava para crear mi cuerpo astral?

[gon] Legue a diez cuando , haciendo un trabajo que no n=me gusta recorde el comentarior de Miguel: tomar la vida com medio de trabajo y eso me llevo mas arriba de diez.

[MigueAngel] Russell a Cristina: De las tres octavas que crean lo bajo, lo medio y lo superior en la fábrica de tres pisos, la fuerza de enmedio es el comienzo de la octava del Cuerpo Astral. Pídela a Miguel el diagrama y texto referente a los tres cuerpos. Si no lo tiene, te puedo mandar uno.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo says: I was at 10 when doing a job I don’t like and remembered Miguel´s remark: to take life as a way to work in ourselves and that tooke me beyond 10.

[Cristina] MigueAngel> a que diagrama se refiere?

[thedog] gon> Magnifico Gonzalo!

[MigueAngel] Joaquin asks: I was thinking in the Lord Prayer, and wonder if the part that says: thy kingdom come…. would that mean that we want HIM to be the king in our being?

[MigueAngel] Cristina> Si me recuerdas esto en un correo, te lo envío.

[MigueAngel] Cristina> Es el diagrama de los tres pisos que les escribí en el capítulo Sol, en las octavas ascendentes.

[Cristina] MigueAngel> ok, ya recuerdo gracias

[thedog] Cristina> There is posted in the Forum, in the Cosmic Secrets, the text. It is called Three Bodies / Common Sense

[MigueAngel] Russ a Cristina: Esta puesto en el Forum, en la parte de Secretos Cósmics, el texto. Se llama Los Tres Cuerpos / o El Sentido Común.

[thedog] Master taking residence in us is the coming of His Kingdom.

[MigueAngel] Russell a Joaquin: El Amo ocupando la residencia en nosotros es la llegada de Su Reino.

[jorge] como se puede entender la idea de que el cuerpo tiene su momentum y que ejercicios practicos hay para trabajar con momentum?

[Cristina] MigueAngel> mi pregunta va relacionada en como puedo hacer que la octava ascendente se convierta en algo mas que matemáticas, como puedo desarrollarla internamente, es a través de los ejercicios solamente?

[MigueAngel] Jorge to Russ: ¿How can we understand the idea that the body has its momentum and what practival exercices are there to work with momentum?

[MigueAngel] Cristina to Russ: How can I make the ascending octave transforms into more than mathematics? How can I develop it internally? is this through just through the excercises?

[gon] Me da mucho gusto de estar con todos. Se me acabo el tiempo.

[MigueAngel] Claudia asks to Russ: What do I do when having a negative emotion? if I already yealled at my child… should I keep silent and change my attitude or should I let it flow? Should I just observe or what?

[MigueAngel] By Gonzalo…

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo is leaving… login out

[thedog] jorge> The normal momentum of the body is to rest, so resist it. G says, “When the body is tired don’t rest, for then it would be a victory for the body.” Proper working of the machine requires three momentums, we must get the carriage, horse and driver to all want to make the same journey.

[gon] Mis rollos son muy largos, lo observo. Como puedo tener respuesta a mi pregunta?

[jorge] adios gon

[Cristina] marianne> Hola querida Idiota

[thedog] Cristina> At some point, the mathematics will become alive in you, if you keep taking the medicine.

[marianne] hla a todas, hi to everyone.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Jorge: El momentum normal del cuerpo es descansar, así que resiste eso. Gurdjieff dice: “Cuando el cuerpo esté cansado no descanses, porque esa sería una victoria del cuerpo.” El trabajo adecuado de la maquina requiere tres momentums, debemos hacer que el carruaje, el caballo y el cochero…

[MigueAngel] …quieran hacer el mismo viaje.

[MigueAngel] gon> Tal vez formulandola más brevemente, recuerda el aforismo 74.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Cristina: En álgún punto las matemáticas ´cobrarán vida en ti, si sigues tomando la medicina.

[gon] Francamente lo trate y no pude. gracias.

[thedog] Claudia, see Chapter 14 Fourth Way page 360-361.

[MigueAngel] gon> Querer es poder…. no querer… muerte.

[marianne] mi mejor momento fue cuando me podia dar cuenta de una resistencia de hablar con mi papa y podia ver que la resistencia venia porque iba a decirle una mentira y ya hay remordimiento de consciencia antes de querer mentir. my best momento wan when I noticed that there was a resistance to talk to my

[MigueAngel] Russ a Claudia: ve el Capítulo 14 del Cuarto Camino páginas 360 a 361.

[marianne] Dad and I could see that the resistance was there because I wanted to tell a lie and I had remorse of conscience before I wanted to lie.

[Cristina] MigueAngel> pero como puedo lograr eso?

[thedog] marianne> Bravo!

[MigueAngel] Cristina> Joaquín te dice que… ¡lográndolo!!!!

[MigueAngel] Cristina> Russell ya te respondió a eso… sigue tomando la medicina, es decir, sigue leyendo las matemáticas y practicándolas. y practicándolas y ….etc.

[Cristina] En realidad pienso que las octavas comienzan a vivir en ti cuando te das cuenta de ellas

[Cristina] pero como darme cuenta de que estoy creando una octava ascendente?

[azavala] BUENAS NOCHES A TODOS.- SALUDOS

[MigueAngel] Cristina A Russ: I thing octaves start living in you when you realize them, but how can I realize I am creating an ascending octave?

[marianne] Que es la definicion de alma en el 4 camino? Es parte de la esencia o de la personalidad? que puedo hacer para que crezca? Hay un lugar en el cuerpo fisico donde e manifiesta el alma?

[marianne] What is the definition of soul in the 4th way?

[MigueAngel] Saludos otra vez hermano Alfonso….

[marianne] Is it part of the essence or the personality? What can I do so that it grows? is there a place in the physical body where the soul is located?

[Cristina] azavala> hola, buenas noches

[jorge] mi mejor momento fue ayer al recuperarme rapidamente de un harnel aoot, anteriormente tardaba mucho mas , dice esto yolanda

[MigueAngel] Jorge to Russ: my best moment was yesterday recovering myself very quickly from a harnel-aoot, before it used to take longer, at least that is what my wife Yolanda says.

[jorge] hola azavala,

[MigueAngel] The last script was by Yolanda in Mexico city

[azavala] HELLO JORGE,. GREETINGS

[MigueAngel] Is Yolanda’s best moment.

[MigueAngel] Under Jorge’s name is him and Yolanda, under my name is me and Joaquin and Claudia

[thedog] marianne> I don’t think there is a definition of soul in the Fourth Way. We understand it to be a state of organization of the second force that can withstand the shock of death.

[MigueAngel] We are becoming like the body, groups of I’s?????

[Cristina] MigueAngel> dile a Joaquín que como puedo darme cuenta de que estoy logrando crear una octava ascendente, el dice que lograndolo, pero como puedo darme cuenta de eso?

[MigueAngel] Russ a Marianne: No pienso que hay una definición de alma en el Cuarto Camino. La entendemos como un estado de organización de la segunda fuerza que puede soportar el choque de la muerte.

[MigueAngel] Cristing is re-presenting the same question: how can I realize I am creating and ascending octave?

[thedog] marianne> Of the three octaves that create the lower, middle and upper stories, the middle force is the beginning of the octave of the Astral Body. The text is posted in the Forum, in the Cosmic Secrets section. It is called Three Bodies / Common Sense. Miguel can give you the diagram.

[MigueAngel] Cristina> Las preguntas son en este forum al Maestro… y este es Russ, ni yo ni joaquin ni nadie más. Yo solo soy el traductor.

[thedog] Sometimes when I have students with me, I open a second browser and log them into the chat as themselves…

[MigueAngel] Russ a Marianne: De las tres octavas que crean lo bajo, lo medio y lo superior en la fábrica de tres pisos, la fuerza de enmedio es el comienzo de la octava del Cuerpo Astral. Pídela a Miguel el diagrama y texto referente a los tres cuerpos. Si no lo tiene, te puedo mandar uno.

[marianne] muchas gracias, lo voy a checar. Thanks I will look it up.

[marianne] Does this mean that the soul is the same as the astral body? Eso significa que el alma es lo mismo que el cuerpo astral?

[thedog] For an octave to ascend there must be three forces working together. Descending octaves do not need shocks. Observe events and map them on to the enneagram of 14 lines. That may help you determine if your octave is ascending. Every night look back over your day and see what you have added.

[thedog] Yes, and a more imortal soul is the mental body.

[jorge] hola joaquin y claudia saludos. nos despedimos de todos y gracias a russell y a miguel angel .hasta pronto

[Cristina] jorge> saludos, nos vemos el miércoles

[marianne] como podemos crear mas alma? con cuales ejercicios? How can we create more soul? with which exercises?

[MigueAngel] sorry was bumped out

[thedog] If all men had a soul, Long ago there would have been no room left on earth For poisonous plants or wild beasts, And even evil would have ceased to exist.

[marianne] is the chat only for fools? el chat es solamente para idiotas?

[MigueAngel] Russ a Cristina: Para que una octava ascienda deben haber tres fuerzas trabajando juntas. Las octavas descendentes no necesitan choques. Observa los eventos y mapéalos en el eneagrama de las 14 líneas. Eso te puede ayudar a determinar si tu octava es ascendente. Cada noche mira en retrospectiva tu

[MigueAngel] día y ve lo que has añadido.

[thedog] Soul is for the lazy fantasy, Luxury for the indulger in suffering; It is the determiner of personality, The way and the link to the Maker and Creator.

[thedog] Soul is the residue of education, The prime source of patience; It is also testimony of the merit Of the essence of eternal Being.

[thedog] Leader of the will, Its presence is “I am,” It is a part of the All-Being, It was so and always will be.

[MigueAngel] Russ dice: si todos los hombres tuvieran alma. hace mucho que no habría espacio sobre la tierra para las plantas venenosas o para las bestias salvajes e incluso el mal ya hubiera dejado de existir.

[thedog] Life is Real, page 160

[MigueAngel] Russ dice: El Alma es el residuo de la educación. La fuerza prima de la paciencia. Es también un testimonio del mérito de la Esencia del Ser Eterno.

[thedog] marianne> Every student is welcome in the chat.

[MigueAngel] Russ dice: El líder de la voluntad, su presencia es “Yo Soy”, es una parte del Todo-SEr, así fue y así será siempre.

[MigueAngel] Russ: Esto está en La Vida es Real de Gurdjieff, página 160.

[azavala] RUSS DICE A MARIANNE.- TODOS LOS ESTUDIANTES SON BIENVENIDOS EN EL CHAT

[thedog] DONG…The time for our chat has expired. Thank you all for being here. It is a great way to spend my Sunday night…and I always look forward to your questions. See you next week amigos.

[Cristina] thedog> good night, say hello to Pamela please

[azavala] THANK YOU RUSS.- GOOD NIGHT!!!

[marianne] gracias and besos a todos. Thanks and kisses to all

[thedog] DOG GONE

[MigueAngel] Russ dijo también: El alma es la fantasía perezoza, un lujo para el que es indulgente en el sufrimiento, es el determinante de la personalidad, El camino y liga con el Hacedor del Mundo.

[marianne] (a)

[Cristina] Saludos a todos. Joaquín y Claudia, muchos besos y abrazos

[MigueAngel] Russ dice: DONG… el tiempo de nuestro chat ha expirado, gracias a todos por estar aquí. Es una gran forma de pasar mis noches del Domingo… y siempre espero sus preguntas. Los veo la siguiente semana friends.

[MigueAngel] Un Saludo a todos de parte de Joaquin y Claudia…

[MigueAngel] Dice que Con Atención intención y presencia.

[azavala] SALUDOS DE MI PARTE.- JOAQUIN Y CLAUDIA.

[MigueAngel] Buenas noches a todos… queridos hermanos de mi vida y del Trabajo, con Amor y Presencia, Miguel Angel

[azavala] GRACIAS MIGUEL.- FELICES SUEÑOS!!!