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12 September 2006 at 5:33 pm #17297
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Participant12:00:50 [alejandra] Buenos dias a todos.
12:00:53 [Verónica] Hola buenos días a todos los idiotas
12:00:55 jorge enters this room
12:01:24 [azavala] GOOD MORNING FRIENDS!!!
12:01:30 [mariana] hola buen dia a todos !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:01:38 MigueAngel enters this room
12:02:35 [MigueAngel] Buenos días amigos…
12:02:53 enrique enters this room
12:03:23 [enrique] buenos dias
12:03:23 renatta enters this room
12:04:37 [MigueAngel] Tal vez podemos ir escribiendo nuestros mejores momentos para ir traduciendo…
12:04:53 thedog enters this room
12:04:59 jorge exits from this room
12:05:17 [thedog] Best Moments
12:05:25 [MigueAngel] My best moment this week was observing Oscar Garduño Martínez recognizing his Steward by The immense inner silence… was beautiful!
12:05:41 [azavala] thedog> SUS MEJORES MOMENTOS
12:06:15 jorge enters this room
12:06:33 [mariana] mi mejor momento fue el martes en la reunion,se crearon condiciones para que mariana verificara si realmente aplica el trabajo,cuando manifiesta inexactitudes y el resultado fue satisfactorio,surgio mas fuerza para seguir trabajando con ella misma .
12:06:47 [azavala] MigueAngel> MI MEJOR MOMENTO ESTA SEMANA FUE OBSERVAR A OSCAR GARDUÑO MARTINEZ RECONOCER A SU MAYORDOMO MEDIANTE EL INMENSO SILENCIO INTERIOR….FUE HERMOSO
12:07:25 [enrique] MB fue el reconocer mentiras sutiles de enrique.
12:07:49 [thedog] MigueAngel> Fantastic. Oscar went through his week? Yee-Haw
12:08:16 [jorge] Hola buenos dias a todos mi mejor momento de la semana fue ayer al aplicar un ej. mi estado cambio.
12:08:16 [MigueAngel] Mariana´s BM: at the meeting, there were created conditions for Mariana to verify if it is really aplicable the Work, when manifesting inexactitudes and the outcome was satisfactory; it came more force to keep working on herself
12:08:43 [MigueAngel] Enrique’s BM Recognizing sutil lying on Enrique.
12:09:01 [renatta] Hola a todos mi mejor momento fue el día lunes en el que a través de un evento externo pude volcarlo hacia mi misma aplicando el trabajo.
12:09:22 [azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- FANTÀSTICO. ¿OSCAR HIZO SU SEMANA? YEE-HAW.
12:09:22 [MigueAngel] thedog> Yeah, I misstiped his name on the last e-mail, it is: OSCAR GARDUÑO MARTÍNEZ.
12:10:17 [MigueAngel] Renatta’s BM: through an external event I was able to turn it towards myself aplying the work.
12:10:29 [Verónica] Uno de mis mejores momentos fue el miércoles al estar viendo un programa de tv, me permitio reconocer el significado de la tercera línea de trabajo en mí, fue espectacular agradecer en ese momento el trabajo de todos y cada uno de los estudiantes de THE DOG
12:10:48 [azavala] MigueAngel> thedog.- SÌ, ESCRIBÌ MAL SU NOMBRE EN EL ÙLTIMO E-MAIL, SE TRATA DE OSCAR GARDUÑO MARTINEZ.
12:11:13 [thedog] mariana>
12:11:28 [thedog] enrique>
12:11:36 [thedog] renatta>
12:11:36 [alejandra] Mi mejor momento de la semana ha sido realizar el ejercicio de Yo Soy, yo puedo, yo deseo. Cada vez le da mas fuerza y comprension.
12:12:18 [MigueAngel] Verónica’s BM: viewing a tv program that allowed me to recognize the meaning of third line of work in myself, it was spectacular to thank in that moment the work of all students of The Dog.
12:13:09 [james] My best moments this week have come from the results of making massive efforts on the Chi exercise for one week. There is a further separation with my senses, expanding on what I have developed before.
12:14:24 [mariana] esta semana observe que no hay voluntad en mariana como poder adquirirla ?hay niveles en la voluntad?
12:14:38 [thedog] Verónica>
12:14:50 [azavala] james> MI MEJOR MOMENTO ESTA SEMANA VINO DE LOS RESULTADOS DE HACER ESFUERZOS MASIVOS SOBRE EL EJERCICIO CHI POR UNA SEMANA. HAY UNA MAYOR SEPARACIÒN CON MIS SENTIDOS, EXPANDIENDO SOBRE LO QUE HE DESARROLLADO ANTERIORMENTE.
12:15:12 [thedog] james>
12:15:36 [MigueAngel] Mariana: this week I observed that there is no will in Mariana… how to acquire it? are there levels of will?
12:16:07 [jorge] En Perspectivas, G. Menciona que a cada momento de nuestra vida ,cada sentimiento y pensamiento esta coloreado por influencias planetarias .De estas influencias tambien somos esclavos .Que hay de real en esto?
12:16:19 [thedog] MigueAngel> Now you know why God goes by the name I AM … just easire to spell.
12:16:51 [enrique] "G.said:the ascent process happens provided that three any forces whit an armonic reasons are combined,as long as the three forces remain in an armonic reasons."
12:18:05 [azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- AHORA SABE PORQUE DIOS SE HACE LLAMAR "YO SOY"…..ES MÀS FÀCIL DE PRONUNCIAR.
12:18:12 [enrique] if i kept the presence and at the same time i can see multiplicity (in this moment i am two) ¿can i turn into three, but in a new way?
12:18:30 [thedog] mariana> Every intentional effort creates a bit of will. Everytime I go against the machine I create will.
12:18:40 [MigueAngel] Jorge: In Views, G. mentions that every moment in our life, every feeling and thought is with the colour of a planetary influence. Are we also slaves of these influences? What is real about this?
12:19:01 [renatta] ¿cómo entiendo la idea de que mientras la personalidad siga siendo activa y la esencia pasiva no sigo la ley de mi destino?.
12:19:34 [azavala] thedog> mariana.- CADA ESFUERZO INTENCIONAL CREA UN POQUITO DE VOLUNTAD. CADA VEZ QUE VOY EN CONTRA DE LA MÀQUINA YO CREO VOLUNTAD.
12:20:03 [MigueAngel] thedog> yeah….pityful huh?
12:20:32 [james] mariana> Every time you choose to do an exercise, you crete a moment of will.
12:21:09 [thedog] enrique> The Presence is the 3. It allows you to see yourself as an observer, which is very good
12:21:46 [jorge] Tambien dice que mientras mas desarrollado esta un hombre,mas sujeto esta a influencias . Porque o como liberarnos mas de estas?
12:22:05 [MigueAngel] Renatta: how do I understan the idea that meanwhile personality is still active and essence pasive, I am not following the law of my destiny?
12:22:25 [azavala] MigueAngel> thedog.- SI….ES LASTIMOSO HUH?
12:23:03 [thedog] jorge> nO, that is not real. G was considering those who believed in such things so he gave them what they wanted. But the planets give nothing.
12:23:27 [MigueAngel] Jorge: That book also says that meanwhile more developed a man is, more attached to this influences. Why or how to free ourselves more of this?
12:23:44 [azavala] thedog> enrique.- LA PRESENCIA ES EL TRES. TE PERMITE VERTE A TI MISMO COMO UN OBSERVADOR, LO CUAL ES MUY BUENO.
12:25:19 [thedog] renatta> Only Destiny is to fulfill our potential. Personality is important, that is why we study, Essence is important, that is why we apply wht we study.
12:25:56 [azavala] thedog> jorge.- NO, ESO NO ES REAL. GURDJIEFF ESTABA CONSIDERANDO EXTERNAMENTE A AQUELLOS QUE CREÌAN EN TALES COSAS, ASÌ QUE LES DIO LO QUE ELLOS QUERÌAN. PERO LOS PLANETAS NO DAN NADA.
12:26:42 [mariana] hay diferencia en el termino ser y estado de ser ?cual seria un ejemplo ?
12:27:45 [jorge] Me podrias hacer mas compresivas la ley de atraccion y la ley de la repulsion’
12:27:47 [MigueAngel] Mariana: is there difference in the term being and the state of being? which would be an example?
12:28:02 [azavala] thedog> renatta.- SÒLO EL DESTINO ES PARA COMPLETAR NUESTRO POTENCIAL. LA PERSONALIDAD ES IMPORTANTE, ESA ES LA RAZÒN POR LA QUE ESTUDIAMOS. LA ESENCIA ES IMPORTANTE, ESO ES PORQUE APLICAMOS LO QUE ESTUDIAMOS.
12:28:30 [james] mariana> CADA VEZ QUE ELIGES HACER UN EJERCICIO, ESTAS CREANDO UN MOMENTO DE VOLUNTAD.
12:28:58 [renatta] ¿Qué debe entenderse por violencia? a raíz de esto ¿cómo vencer al hombre violento?
12:29:02 [thedog] mariana> Being is what we are all together. State of being is what we are at the moment.
12:30:23 [azavala] thedog> mariana.- SER ES LO QUE SOMOS TODOS. ESTADO DE SER ES LO QUE SOMOS EN EL MOMENTO.
12:30:35 [MigueAngel] Renatta: what should be understoos as violence? and how to defeat a violent man?
12:31:44 [Verónica] O. en Psicología… dice en la segunda conferencia, al hablar de las escuelas ordinarias, comenta que no hay un método universal aplicable a todos… como debo entenderlo para explicarselo a una estudiante principiante?
12:32:45 [thedog] MigueAngel> Is that our aim? To defeat a violent man? Perhaps, turn the cheek … perhaps, make him forget his grand parents. Personally, I might just avoid him.
12:33:16 juanpablo enters this room
12:34:17 [MigueAngel] Verónica: in the second conference of Psychology, when speaking about ordinary schools, O. says that there is a universal method apllicable to all… how to understand this for me to explain it to a new student?
12:35:21 [MigueAngel] thedog> That was Renatta’s question, I just want to conquer mySelf.. jeje.
12:36:25 [thedog] MigueAngel> oops,
12:36:32 [azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- ¿ES ESE NUESTRO PROPÒSITO? ¿VENCER A UN HOMBRE VIOLENTO? QUIZÀ, OFRECE LA OTRA MEJILLA….QUIZÀ HACERLO OLVIDAR A SUS ABUELOS. PERSONALMENTE, YO SÒLO LO EVITARÌA.
12:37:27 [azavala] MigueAngel> thedog.- ESA FUE UNA PREGUNTA DE RENATA, YO SÒLO QUIERO CONQUISTARME A MÌ MISMO….JE JE.
12:37:57 [azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- OH!!
12:39:39 [thedog] Verónica> I am not sure. I only know of one method that works. THE DOG
12:39:44 [renatta] En relatos de Belcebú se menciona que el el hombre su cuerpo está conectado a la organización afectiva por medio de la sangre ¿a que se refiere?.
12:40:29 [azavala] thedog> Verónica.- NO ESTOY SEGURO. YO SÒLO SÈ DE UN MÈTODO QUE FUNCIONA. EL DOG.
12:40:37 [MigueAngel] if it is true that Purgatory is the best place to be… an at the sametime is the maximum tension… how to really go through it an not just avoid it with something else?
12:41:46 [MigueAngel] Renatta. In Beelzebub it is mentioned that in man, his body is conected with the affective organization through the blood, what does he mean?
12:42:26 [azavala] MigueAngel> SI ES CIERTO QUE EL PURGATORIO ES EL MEJOR LUGAR PARA ESTAR….Y AL MISMO TIEMPO ES EL DE MÀXIMA TENSIÒN…..¿CÒMO REALMENTE ATRAVESARLO Y NO SÒLO EVITARLO CON ALGO MÀS?
12:43:56 [thedog] MigueAngel> Purgatory is when a man awakens his conscience. He sees what he is. It is good to see the bad
12:44:54 [azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- EL PURGATORIO ES CUANDO UN HOMBRE DESPIERTA SU CONCIENCIA. ÈL VE LO QUE ÈL ES. ES BUENO VER LO MALO
12:45:36 [thedog] renatta> I don’t understand your question
12:46:02 [azavala] thedog> renatta.- NO ENTIENDO TU PREGUNTA.
12:48:40 [enrique] but only in purgatory i can to change myself isnt it?
12:48:51 [renatta] En el libro 3 de Relatos G. dice: Relacionando sus partes: El carruaje al caballo por las varas, el caballo al cochero por las riendas. Así en el hombre su CUERPO está conectado a la organización afectiva por medio de la SANGRE y la organización afectiva a la organización que MATERIALIZA el …
12:49:40 [azavala] enrique> ¿PERO SÒLO EN EL PURGATORIO PUEDO CAMBIARME A MI MISMO, NO ES ASÌ?
12:50:00 [renatta] … funcionamiento de la MENTACION O CONCIENCIA que surge en la presencia común de un hombre de todos los ESFUERZOS DEL SER INTENCIONALMENTE REALIZADOS.
12:50:46 Chris enters this room
12:51:06 [thedog] enrique> It is very hard to change, if one can not see what one is, so yes.
12:51:35 [mariana] el darme cuenta de lo malo en mariana causa sufrimiento es te sufrimiento es real?como trabajarlo ?
12:51:47 [Chris] Hola a todos, pido una disculpa por ni haber estado desde el principio, pero tengo un problema con la red, mi mejor momento es poder estar aqui por lo menos un momento con ustedes.
12:51:55 [azavala] thedog> enrique.- ES MUY DIFÌCIL CAMBIAR, SI UNO NO PUEDE VER LO QUE ES, POR LO TANTO "SÌ".
12:52:18 [enrique] how can i support whitout lie miself?
12:53:15 [jorge] Me podrias ayudar a comprender mejor la idea de G. cuando dice que Cuando uno tiene su empujar y jalar bien equilibrado con otra persona ,entonces hay amor y un ajuste correcto.Por lo tanto los resultados pueden ser muy diferentes .Segun haya o no correspondencia,cuando yo empujo y el jala, el resu
12:53:41 [jorge] ltado sera muy diferente.?
12:53:49 [MigueAngel] Renatta: in Beelzebub G. said: in the diagram of the Carriage that the body is connected to the affective organization by means of the blood and the affective organization to the organization that actualizes the functioning of the mentation or consciousness emerging in the comun presence of a man..
12:54:07 [MigueAngel] because of all the intentionally made efforts.
12:54:35 Verónica exits from this room
12:54:57 [MigueAngel] Mariana: to realize the bad in Mariana causes suffering .. is this real suffering? how to work it?
12:55:00 Verónica enters this room
12:55:19 [azavala] enrique> ¿CÒMO PUEDO ASISTIRME SIN MENTIRME A MÌ MISMO?
12:55:19 [MigueAngel] Chirs BM: to be here at least for a moment.
12:57:10 [thedog] renatta> Yes.
12:57:28 [MigueAngel] Jorge: could you help to understand better the idea of G. when mentioned that when one has his pushing and pulling with another person, then there is love and an adequate adjustement. Therefore the results are very different. If there is or not correspondence when I pull or push would the result be
12:57:32 [MigueAngel] different?
12:57:51 [thedog] mariana> Instead, you should rejoice that you can see
12:59:16 [azavala] thedog> mariana.- EN SU LUGAR, TÙ DEBERÌAS REGOCIJARTE QUE PUEDES VER.
13:00:41 [thedog] Great Hour. Hope to see you here next week
13:01:11 [enrique] thanks every body gracias a todos.
13:01:13 [azavala] thedog> GRAN HORA. ESPERO VERLOS AQUÌ LA PRÒXIMA SEMANA.
13:01:21 [jorge] Gracias a Russell Miguel Azavala y a todos por compartir.
13:01:26 [james]>[thedog] ENRIQUE 12:52:18
13:01:35 [MigueAngel] Gracias a todos… saludos y nos vemos la próxima semana… bye
13:01:43 MigueAngel exits from this room
13:01:55 [Verónica] Muchas gracias a todos por esta hora, nos vemos la próxima semana, que su semana sea de Presencia
13:01:57 jorge exits from this room
13:02:01 [mariana] gracias a todos ,saludos nos vemos la proxima semana.
13:02:02 [juanpablo] buenos dias a todos
13:02:26 [azavala] GRACIAS….SEAN FELICES EL FIN DE SEMANA….ABRAZOS PARA TODOS UDS. BY!!!
13:02:28 [alejandra] Hasta Pronto a Todo!
13:02:32 [renatta] Hasta pronto y gracias a todos por compartir.
13:02:35 enrique exits from this room
13:02:39 renatta exits from this room
13:02:52 [chris] BEsos y abrazos a todos, see you next week
13:02:53 [thedog] jorge> It is about resistance, If I don’t resist a force but use it or redirect it, I change things
13:03:00 [Verónica] Nos vemos el jueves de 7 a 8 pm, con Alex y James
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13:03:38 thedog exits from this room
13:04:39 [azavala] thedog> JORGE.- ESTÀ RELACIONADO CON LA RESISTENCIA, SI NO RESISTO UNA FUERZA, PERO LA USO O LA REDIRIJO, YO CAMBIO LAS COSAS.
13:04:51 james exits from this room
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15:58:54 richard enters this room
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16:01:32 jperrott enters this room
16:01:42 [jperrott]
16:01:51 [jperrott] B.M. The report from a student who suddely saw his own selfishness in such relief, he had to pull over and park for a while.
16:02:33 [jperrott] Here’s the missing ‘n’!
16:02:59 [jperrott] james> How are you amigo?
16:04:16 [james] jperrott> Doing fine… first Sunday in about three months that we do not have a student so Alejandra and I are relaxing
16:04:32 [jperrott] richard> O.K. Let’s see if Richard is live. How are you Richard?
16:04:36 [richard] jperrott> BM not only completing all three sits but anticipating them and being present while sitting.
16:05:03 [james] B.M. Studying the 17 line Enneagram and finding more connections and understandings.
16:05:06 [jperrott] james> Enjoy your relaxation!
16:05:19 gary enters this room
16:05:33 [jperrott] richard> Then that’s mine too!
16:05:39 scrivs enters this room
16:06:04 [scrivs] Hi !
16:06:11 [gary] Hi people
16:06:13 [richard] jperrott> I should have done this years ago
16:06:33 [james] jperrott> Actually, we had a student’s mother stay with us last night and she left soon after class so it’s just a couple of hours since the last one.
16:06:41 Tony enters this room
16:07:02 [jperrott] richard> Yu would have done – if you’d known what to do.
16:07:10 SusanHagan enters this room
16:07:41 [james] B.M. Doing Purgatory memory work, 1-4 pages a week… having large amounts of Beelzebub gives a larger scale to appreciate and learn from than just reading.
16:07:58 [richard] jperrott> better late than never
16:08:50 [jperrott] richard> Indeed – and maintaining it is even better!
16:09:01 [scrivs] jperrott> Thanx for transmitting those papers.
16:09:32 [richard] jperrott> that’s my task now – keeping this new found momentum
16:09:34 [jperrott] scrivs> You’re welcome.
16:10:10 [gary] BM. Make it my aim to decorate the toilet and finish it by tonight – just have one coat of paint left to do.
16:10:59 [scrivs] jperrott> BM. Experiencing a prolonged moment of separation from FP. And wishing for essence to be the c of g.
16:11:13 [richard] jperrott> The mid day sit was taken by the side of a road after eating my sandwiches, trying to appear inconspicuous with my hands on knees and looking at nothing in particular
16:12:01 [richard] jperrott> One passer by gave me a strange glance
16:12:22 [james] Another BM came from verifying (yet again) that it is harder to choose an octave to do than it is to actually do an octave!
16:12:41 [jperrott] richard> Nobody appears more conspicuous than somebody trying to not be…conspicuous!
16:13:22 [jperrott] james> Takes a # 7 man to do that!
16:13:34 [scrivs] james> Yes! I recognise that one. Why should that be so ?
16:14:04 [Tony] B.M. Being in a better state after class yesterday.
16:14:12 [SusanHagan] BM Contnues to be the exercise of viewing without verbalising. I have a fresh sense of presence spanning the day.
16:15:29 [gary] BM. Read the first chapter of Beelzbub’s – and have begun the 2nd read as Mr G. recomended
16:15:46 [richard] jperrott> I revisitred the country road today – you know, the one where the trees waved to me , I said I have returned and thanks for waiting
16:15:49 [james] scrivs> With this last go-around, it comes from what I do not know about the octaves I am looking to do. I don’t start them because there’s some thing or things that I have yet to see clearly, but…
16:15:59 [scrivs] BM. Visiting several gardens open to the public today in a tiny village. Gorgeous flowers , and ‘interesting’ comments by others.
16:17:04 [gary] "recommended"
16:17:08 [jperrott] richard> It’s good to have "companions on the road".
16:17:20 [SusanHagan] I had a drean last night. I was identified in the dream and was observing this identification from another seperate part of myself. I woke up and was astonished that such identification was possible even during the physical sleep process.. so deeply ingrained it is!
16:17:28 [james] scrivs> … when I finally decide to do an octave, I focus on what I don’t know and learn about it, then I know enough to begin and complete the octave! I just don’t remember that I can find out what I need to know about an octave only AFTER choosing to do it. Before that, it is only theoretical.
16:18:43 [jperrott] SusanHagan> It’s because it becomes ingrained is sleep that it exerts its power whilst we would be awake.
16:20:12 mike enters this room
16:20:32 [richard] mike> Hi Mike
16:20:40 [mike] greetings all
16:20:55 [gary] mike> Hi Mike.
16:21:03 [mike] richard> hiya pal
16:21:12 [scrivs] james> Thank you sir! Seems like one has to dip to in water to find the temperature. It’s all experience.
16:21:13 [jperrott] mike> …and to you, sir!
16:21:38 [scrivs] SP. TOE.
16:22:57 [scrivs] james> " Only bitter experience will teach us. And it will surely come". JGB.
16:23:43 [james] scrivs> As long as we’re present for it…
16:24:32 [scrivs] james> Why focus on what you don’t know?
16:26:12 [richard] jperrott> BM 2 looking forward to consolidating sitting on a regular basis
16:26:44 [james] scrivs> For me, it’s what I don’t know that stops me from moving forward with an octave. When I have worked the enneagram, I can see what I know and what I need to know to go the octave the best I can. If I don’t have a clear picture of the octave before I begin, then this machine won’t begin it.
16:27:06 [james] scrivs> sp/go/do the octave
16:27:15 [jperrott] richard> That would be a sensible aim!
16:27:35 [mike] BM: long trip into the house of horrors of FP – will have to go back again as sensed it can get to a point where the whole lot can coalesce into one
16:27:39 [richard] jperrott> And then applying the in between bits with gusto
16:28:53 [jperrott] richard> Gusto – ketchup – Daddy’s – whatever works to keep you Working!
16:29:13 [richard] jperrott> Today I must have intoned I Am more than ever – just about every step of a five hour walk
16:30:20 [scrivs] james> OK. It ( once) semed to me that the enneagram is a tool , at least, or asking questions. So good on yer, Bruce!
16:30:52 [scrivs] Sp. For….
16:31:37 [jperrott] richard> A good effort – well done!
16:32:18 [jperrott] scrivs> Fore!
16:33:00 [james] scrivs> The study of the enneagram is going along a few different lines here (no pun intended) and I keep returning to the idea that until you can put a process into an enneagram, you don’t understand it.
16:34:23 [richard] jperrott> I went to the house where I was born and set off on a familiar route – I even recaptured a sense of the way it was – excitement at discovering new things en route , what was missing were my companions, the friends I used to walk with. ..
16:35:02 [scrivs] james> Sure . I’ll go with that.
16:36:16 [jperrott] richard> I guess one copuld say they were there – since you noticed they were missing!
16:39:01 [richard] jperrott> Some things were the same and some things had gone, some trees still remained, and of course the ever rolling stream, my mother’s house is still there – with new occupants, something is beckoning me back and perhaps it may still be possible
16:41:21 [jperrott] richard> The Sufis would say, "Don;t spend too much time looking at your footsteps int the sand"!
16:41:33 [richard] mike> Yes I guess so , can a man be born again?
16:42:27 [jperrott] richard> What did Mike say?
16:43:10 [scrivs] jperrott> What’s at the root of the difficulty of making choice? Is it habit ? Attitude? Weaknesses? garyLack of purpose? w.h.y?
16:43:39 [richard] jperrott> I guess he said I have to become unbuffered
16:43:58 [jperrott] richard> It’s only when we look at things is the fragmented way that "some things look the same, other things have changed, etc. Unity is always changing – yet is one!
16:44:34 [scrivs] Dunno where the gary bit came from. Mystery……….
16:44:50 [richard] jperrott> We could have had such an interesting time today were you with me
16:45:30 [jperrott] scrivs> Wanting to do something important and, thereby – to be important.
16:46:03 [jperrott] richard> What did Mike say?
16:46:50 [richard] jperrott> I have to return to continue
16:47:59 [jperrott] richard> It has been said that, when a man awakens, he restarts his life at the last moment that seems to him to have been real.
16:48:10 [richard] jperrott> remorse is in there
16:48:25 [scrivs] jperrott> Important in one’s own eyes , I presume.? That is , to FP.
16:49:26 [jperrott] scrivs> No – to the awakened, unified # 4 man.
16:51:34 [richard] jperrott> Life is Real only the. when I Am
16:51:54 [richard] jperrott> n
16:52:54 [richard] jperrott> How to be childlike, yet grown up as well?
16:53:33 [jperrott] richard> How could it possibly be otherwise. Ask yourself, under whtat conditions could an unrealised man see reality?
16:54:51 [richard] jperrott> Yes, this is what all this struggle is for.
16:54:52 [jperrott] richard> Be realised!
16:55:28 [jperrott] 5 min to go folks!
16:55:42 [richard] jperrott> That is so succinct I love you for it
16:56:14 [jperrott] Indeed! Why have you gone provate?
16:56:26 [james] richard> A man can be child-like by being present in the moment and open to all of the possibilities, yet still be the adult as to not be surprised or affected by what actually happens.
16:56:54 [jperrott] scrivs> Apologies! Why have you gone private?
16:57:55 [scrivs] jperrott> Dunno. Seemed private. Want me to spell it out?
16:57:58 [richard] james> That is definitely worth acting on
16:58:40 [jperrott] scrivs> Don’t hide your light (or your darkness) under a bushel!
16:58:41 [richard] james> But my horse kicks
16:59:27 [jperrott] scrivs> No! Just don’t hide what might have value – in case it doesn’t. Who/what are you protecting?
16:59:58 [james] richard> That is the work we have to do, to have the carriage be unified and go in the direction we choose.
17:00:17 [scrivs] jperrott> Since I have seen reality –unity in all– then it must be that there is in me the posibility of recapturing it.
17:00:54 [jperrott] scrivs> Indeed there must be! What’s holding you back?
17:01:01 [richard] james> another pearl – thanks so much
17:01:48 [jperrott] Maybe is was only a glimpse – the truth still applies!
17:02:17 [jperrott] O.K. I’m off now. Love and best wishes to all!
17:02:31 [SusanHagan] Have a good week to you all!
17:02:47 jperrott exits from this room
17:02:54 [james] Thanks for the hour. See y’all next week! G’Night!
17:02:55 [Tony] Thanks, night all.
17:03:04 [richard] jperrott> It’e kind of funny – Truth always is, we just have see it , any time
17:03:05 Tony exits from this room
17:03:11 [scrivs] And good night to all you folk.
17:03:12 [mike] night all, been good being here
17:03:28 [richard] Thanks, goodnight
17:03:31 [gary] Thanks – bye now
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