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16:01:02 [thedog] Best Moments
16:02:33 susanhagan enters this room
16:03:02 [thedog] Best Moment: Discussing with the school in Ruerto Vallarta ans with the students here and in Austin the hidden meaning of the Choot God Litanical Period, in the Purgatory Chapter, and watching them get the message.
16:03:20 [james] My best moments now are to observe what is mechanical and bring more attention to it.
16:05:45 [susanhagan] I was pruning some trees in the garden and saw that the trees and plants grow and flourish automatically, given the right conditions, but we Homo Sapiens do not! We must have the right conditions and the wish and do the work.
16:06:31 [thedog] susanhagan> Nive Sue
16:06:45 [thedog] Nice*
16:06:51 [susanhagan] Is the Tzimus of the message you gave to the groups you lead sharable on this forum?
16:08:10 [thedog] susanhagan> I asked them all to read it first and see waht they could make from all the references in The Purgatory Chapter. If you will do the same, I would be glad next week to answer your question.
16:11:53 [susanhagan] I have been reading this chapter and have a question referring to it.
16:12:31 [thedog] susanhagan> ask
16:12:38 [susanhagan] Why do Higher Being bodies have unavoidable existence?
16:13:08 mike enters this room
16:13:43 [thedog] susanhagan> Brcause of acquired inexactitudes, by no fault of their own.
16:15:34 [mike] bm: was at richard’s – his grandkids were there – noticed being aware of their spontaneity, absorbtion and delight in simple things like crayoning
16:16:34 [thedog] mike> We can learn alot from the purity if childern, before they are cluttered with inexactitudes
16:17:08 [mike] was almost like i was aware of touching their state
16:17:41 [susanhagan] The picture that that unexpected response gives (Shock) is of something real retreating from untruths in order to preserve itself! Or is that just imagination?
16:19:03 [thedog] mike> We all still have the purity of a kid in us … which we can reach if and when we overcome the adult we have colored over ourselves.
16:19:43 [thedog] susanhagan> I would say that that is true Sue.
16:21:13 [thedog] mike> or I should say that others have colored over us.
16:21:37 [mike] thedog> thanks russell, will tell that to my mum – always being reprimanded for still being a kid
16:21:59 [thedog] mike> lol
16:22:47 [susanhagan] Is the Choot- God- litanical period: Loss of Atlantis- lack of conscience?
16:23:52 [thedog] susanhagan> No, but keep thinking. It is worse than that. Someone translated it as When God almost had to ask for help.
16:25:06 [susanhagan] OK Will do !
16:25:29 [thedog] susanhagan> Clues about it are scattered throughout the Purgatory Chapter.
16:26:08 [susanhagan] OK I am reading it as we speak so will keep on.
16:26:09 [thedog] Are JP and Ali out of town?
16:26:42 [mike] thedog> john and alison were with the northern outpost last night
16:27:08 [susanhagan] Yes! They went to the Northern Outpost yesterday and then up to see Alison’s Mother and family for a few days.
16:27:20 [thedog] Ah, that explaines theri absence.
16:27:57 [thedog] After Best Moments, any questions for the week?
16:29:06 [mike] thedog> my inner journey begins in one week – any last words of advice?
16:30:42 [thedog] mike> When you arrive, leave all that you think you know on the street. Become a blank sheet of paper, ready to be written upon. When you leave, stop and pick up any of yourself you wish to take back with you
16:31:41 [mike] thedog> will there be any left?
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16:34:13 [thedog] mike> Man has many usefull things and many non-usefull things. Leave it all behind because he, himself, is usually unable to distinguish between the two. When you leave, you will have a much better discernment of what in the pile of you sytill remains usefull (like the directions home)
16:34:24 [mike] delongh@ma> ‘ow do richard
16:34:40 [susanhagan] BM Feeling the gratitude of knowing that there is a system that can clarify the fact of my existence. Knowing that the answers are accessible to me when I formulate the questions. And seeing how marooned people are without this.
16:34:56 [delongh@ma] mike> Hi Mike and everyone
16:35:43 [susanhagan] Hello!
16:35:56 [mike] thedog>
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16:36:52 [thedog] delongh@ma> So, what’s the smallest number for the top DO of the 1s octave that allows calculation of all top DO’s of all 19 octaves to be whole numbers?
16:37:06 [delongh@ma] B.M. Seeing that 6/5 and 3/2 is super effort
16:39:04 [delongh@ma] thedog> I reached the product of 2,3,4,6,and 8
16:39:05 [mike] thedog> he’s riffling through the papers
16:39:22 [thedog] mike> hehe
16:40:43 [delongh@ma] thedog> Which is only1152 and I know that is too small
16:41:02 [sperrott] BM.Realising I son’t have to justify my exietance or compensate for my apparent shortcomings; there is no need to fight, compete, prove myself, make my mark….or be famous for anything whatsoever 馃檪
16:41:33 [thedog] delongh@ma> Very good deduction, must be a bit of Sherlock Holmes in you, sir.
16:41:53 [delongh@ma] thedog> There is a number which fits and it is enticing
16:42:27 [thedog] sperrott> Good Sarah.
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16:43:26 [delongh@ma] thedog> 1296 is probably the best number which still suffers from decimal fractions
16:44:36 [sperrott] BM. Experiencing that work is not for works sake but is only a means 馃檪
16:44:41 [thedog] delongh@ma> Yes sir. Smallest I could find that allowed enough whole numbers to see the pattern.
16:44:56 [susanhagan] Sorry for my departure. seemed to get thrown out!
16:44:58 [delongh@ma] thedog> All octaves up to no.11 can be calculated as 8,10,and 12 ratios
16:46:06 [delongh@ma] thedog> Octave no.12 has no MI
16:46:38 [thedog] delongh@ma> All octaves are somebodys 10 and or 8 and a 12 for themselves
16:48:05 [delongh@ma] thedog> Thanks, I know that mine is in there somewhere,I have to search for it.
16:48:56 [thedog] delongh@ma> Dont mix 8, 10, 12 (ascending) DO, MI, SO with 12, 10, 8 (descending) DO, LA, FA … you won’t know if your comming or going
16:49:56 [delongh@ma] thedog> Thanks again .That’s saved me weeks of unnecessary calculations
16:50:00 [sperrott] BM.Being in love – love in being
16:51:05 [thedog] delongh@ma> Sometimes the weeks of the unnecessary give greater purpose to the discovery of the necessary.
16:51:51 [delongh@ma] thedog> Someone had the brilliant idea of taking a linear octave and making it into a circle
16:52:41 [thedog] delongh@ma> If Edison would have made the light bulb on the first try, the achievement would not have been as illuminating.
16:53:02 [mike] delongh@ma> need to have a word with you about that…later
16:53:15 [delongh@ma] thedog> Then putting lines which interconnected
16:53:39 [thedog] mike> Anytime Mike.
16:53:40 [sperrott] delongh@ma> Some one had the brilliant idea of taking a circle and translating using a linear otave
16:54:06 [susanhagan] Sometimes the weeks of calculations wear down the bits of us that we didn’t know that we had until we tried to complete something!
16:54:46 [delongh@ma] susanhagan> Yes. So true
16:55:01 [sperrott] james> Love and kissed to you and little sis 馃檪
16:55:15 [sperrott] Thanks for tha chat. N night all.xxx
16:55:16 [thedog] delongh@ma> Putting something that has 3 dimentions on a 2 dimentional sheet of paper, lacks depth.
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16:56:08 [delongh@ma] thedog> Wow, paper helps me but I need to get more substance
16:56:32 [thedog] delongh@ma> I guess that keeps things from spiraling out of control
16:56:51 [mike] delongh@ma> try some 3d modelling software
16:57:40 [delongh@ma] mike> Great, let me know more if you can when less busy
16:58:45 [mike] delongh@ma> but then there’d be no stopping you
16:58:45 [susanhagan] I will be in Eastern Europe on business next Sunday so I look forward to meeting those of you that will be at John’s 70th Birthday Party and being in contact with the US contingenT
16:58:49 [thedog] mike> Thanks mike, but I am computer challanged … kind of like all I know how to do with a micoewave is make popcorn !
16:59:04 [mike] delongh@ma> not that there is now, my friend
16:59:08 [delongh@ma] mike> John said last night all the worlds are here now. If only I can remember that
17:00:16 [susanhagan] week after that, Thanks for a great chat! Love to the THE DOG for all his superlative efforts!
17:00:26 [delongh@ma] mike> That means I am all worlds
17:01:08 [thedog] Glad he made it up to you all this weekend. Even more glad that Mike is 1 week away from the most important journey he will ever make. Wish I could be there for both
17:01:32 [mike] thedog> me too…perhaps will try to make a microwave with popcorn – that would be a challenge
17:01:48 [susanhagan]>[thedog] You ARE WELCOME ANYTIME
17:02:04 [delongh@ma] thedog> Yes and thanks to your labour I am in your debt
17:02:08 [thedog] WEll guys and gals, thanks for spend 1/168 of the week here with me. Save me 1/168 next week.
17:02:26 [mike] thedog> me also
17:02:50 [thedog] Night ALL Rest well.
17:03:07 [thedog] 279936
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17:03:15 [susanhagan] I’ll be thinking of you all whilst I am in Bulgaria! Dovishdena!
17:03:19 [mike] toodle pip and tatty bye
17:04:56 [delongh@ma] Night all
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18:59:04 [Ver贸nica] Hola amiga, querida, me da mucho gusto verte aqu铆…
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18:59:49 [alejandra] Hola, que gusto en saludarlas nuevamente.
18:59:52 [Ver贸nica] Hola precioso amigo, c贸mo est谩s?
19:00:19 [mariana] hola buenas tardes que gusto estar aqui con ustedes amigos
19:00:26 [james] Muy bien, gracias y tu como estas?
19:00:57 [james] mariana> Bienvenida querida amiga! Buenas tardes.
19:01:22 [james] Comenzamos con nuestros mejores momentos de la semana.
19:03:27 [mariana] mi mejor momento de la semana es el darme cuenta que lo mas importante en mi vida es la escuela y que el trabajo conmigo misma esta por encima de todo y verificar que si mi atencion y entrega esta en esto lo demas en la vida se va dando solo y estoy muy contenta.
19:03:41 [alejandra] Mi mejor momento de la semana ha sido estar haciendo mi ejercicio del 1 al 10 y he experimentado mucha presencia, inclusive me ha ayudado a ver mas mis inexactitudes.
19:03:57 [mariana] por que lo estoy verificando
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19:04:24 [Ver贸nica] Uno de mis mejores momentos fue cuando regrese del para铆so, y recordar una sugerencia que me di贸 James hace un a帽o, me traje el para铆so conmigo y lo he estado compartiendo con la gente que me rodea, y el verificar que cuando estamos en 10 o lo m谩s alto que podemos estar impactamos a la gente para
19:04:36 [Ver贸nica] bien… y esto me llena de regocijo
19:04:44 [james] mariana>
19:05:17 [Ver贸nica] Otro momento fue el s谩bado cuando a trav茅s de este medio estuve con Russell, y ese "mi preciosa" me ha estado llevando a 10
19:06:02 [jorge] Hola buenas tardes a todos mi mejor momento de la semana fue el dia de ayer al hacer esfuerzos masivos durante todo el dia.
19:06:24 [james] Ver贸nica> es maravilloso
19:06:57 [james] jorge> wow!
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19:07:43 [Ver贸nica] Otro momento, es observar, como los eventos tratan de empujar hacia abajo, pero tengo la habilidad de escoger estar en 10隆隆隆
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19:08:21 [james] Ver贸nica>
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19:09:06 [james] Bienvenida, Buenas tardes.
19:11:20 [james] Quien tiene una nueva comprension o comentario o pregunta desde nuestro ultimo chat.
19:12:37 [renatta] hola a todos buenas tardes, mis mejores momentos han sido celebrar la mayor矛a de mis eventos con atenci貌n haciendo que la presencia sea sostenida, a veces no logro mantenerla pero darme cuenta de ello es para mi un gran paso hacia adelante!!!!.
19:14:11 [james] renatta>
19:17:06 [renatta] El 3er. esfuerzo obligolniano es el 霉nico esfuerzo que puede permanecer objetivo de principio a fin, por lo que los dem脿s son luego entonces subjetivos, sin embargo me surge una pregunta al estar leyendo el 4o. esfuerzo que comienza en el momento de mi despertar, es el surgimiento por pagar…
19:17:19 [mariana] en el eneagrama hay DO asendente y DO desendente en cual iniciamos la octava?tengo cierta confucion
19:18:19 [renatta] sin embargo por que si el despertar es un proceso objetivo la gente se retira de los grupos y/o escuelas???
19:18:53 [mariana] ascendente perdon
19:19:15 [james] mariana> Una octava comienza en el Do ascendente y despues vamos a Re, Mi, Fa, etc. Todas las octavas las comenzamos ascendiendo.
19:22:43 [jorge] Como podriamos mantener un estado presente en el cualnos damos cuenta de que todos 貌 la mayor parte de los momentos son nuevos? y no caer en los estados de monotonia?
19:22:47 [james] renatta> El proceso envuelve el 4 esfuerzo obligoniano asi que esto es subjetivo para la persona. El libro de Secretos Cosmicos y el conocimiento dados durante en proceso es objetivo pero donde cada persona esta en su trabajo interior, sus esfuerzos, y su comprension de esas verdades objetivas es..
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19:23:32 [james] renatta> subjetivo para ellos.
19:24:25 [Ver贸nica] C贸mo podemos madurar el Centro Emocional Superior, y c贸mo puedo utilizar todas las cartas del Centro Emocional?
19:24:41 [mariana] en una octava hay tres oscilaciones esto provoca 2 huecos que pasa en estos puntos?
19:25:15 [chris] Hola Buenas Tardes a todos!!!
19:25:42 [renatta] En el cap矛tulo LA de secretos c貌smicos se habla de Dios-Verbo despu猫s de haber cambiado las dos leyes primordiales 驴qu猫 debo entender por esto?.
19:27:32 [james] jorge> Primero debemos comprender de que cada momento es nuevo. Debemos de sentirlo en nuestro Ser. Despues poner nuestra atencion en lo que esta pasando alrededor de nosotros, en lo que estamos haciendo. Si despues de esto empiezas a sentir aburrido o monotinia, haz un ejercicio.
19:27:46 [jorge] Hola Criss.Como estas.
19:27:49 [james] chris> Buenas tardes !! amiga.
19:28:49 [Ver贸nica] El Eterno-Inmutable, El Sagrado Sol Absoluto, El Muy Muy Sagrado Sol Absoluto, es lo mismo, es as铆?
19:31:05 [james] Ver贸nica> Manteniendo desarrollando los 3 pisos interiores y haciendo todos nuestros ejercicios. y hay 2 formas en utilizar mas de nuestro centro Emocional . Una de las formas en elegiendo Nuestra emociones, no solamente tenerlar o que pasen. Otra forma es mantener desarrollando tu centro emocional
19:32:04 [renatta] La alargaci貌n del 5o. stopinder en SOL y LA (Harnel Aoot) implica siempre una evoluci貌n o una involuci貌n, es decir si se pasa la crisis se evoluciona y si no cesan todas las cosas y hay que volver a empezar??
19:32:17 [james] Ver贸nica> … superior y con eso podras tener mas control y contacto con tu centro emocional. Una tercera forma la cual trabaja para todo es Elevar nuestro estado.
19:34:08 [james] mariana> Hay 3 oscilaciones que crean 2 intervalos y el Harnel-Aoot, el cual debemos de tener ayuda desde afuera para poderlo pasar.
19:36:11 [james] renatta> Uno de las interpretaciones de Dios Verbo es que es la tercera fuerza.
19:37:00 [mariana] la ayuda de afuera es la que nos da la escuela con las herramientas?
19:38:25 [james] Ver贸nica> Si, Vero.
19:41:17 [jorge] En los intervalos de los que habla Mariana se refieren a los dos choques conscientes?
19:42:07 [chris] C贸mo puedo interpretar los stopinders en mi trabajo interno, es decir en la octava de trabajo sobre uno mismo como se vive o como interpreto un stopinder en el trabajo?
19:43:30 [james] renatta> Si tu pasas el Harnel- Aoot entonces continuaras a el Do y evolucionaras. no puedes quedarte atrapada en el Harnet Aoot y no Evolucionar o Involucionar. O tu puedes ser parada por las fuerzas de negacion (LA) Y comenzar la octava de nuevo.
19:44:21 [james] mariana> Si es una de las formas en la que tenemos ayuda de nuestra escuela.
19:46:09 [Ver贸nica] El Harnel-Aoot (SOL-LA) representa una crisis?
19:47:12 [renatta] Gracias a todos por su presencia, gracias James y Ale por sus respuestas, a todos buen inicio de semana, tengo que retirarme, muchas gracias y buena tarde!!!!!!
19:47:12 [james] jorge> Solamente en el Diagrama de la Comida nuestros choques se les ha dado la etiqueta de Mecanico y Consciente. En cualquier otra octava es opcional es tu Eleccion de ser conscientes o No.
19:47:30 [Ver贸nica] Y si es as铆, c贸mo salir de ah铆 o pasar el intervalo?
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19:49:34 [james] chris> Practicando, practicando el eneagrama de las 17 lineas. cuando mas aplicamos esto mas podremos ha comenzar a sentir en donde estamo en la octava y lo que necesitamos hacer para completarla.
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19:52:25 [james] Ver贸nica> No es necasarioamente una crisis pero es mas un punto de tencion entre la oscilacion Mayor de la octava que quiere mantenerse en lo mismo ( Fa-La) Y la oscilacion que nos mantendra superiores. (So-Ti). …
19:52:40 [mariana] para hacer un eneagrama es necesario hacer eneagramas alternos en cada una de las notas ?
19:53:38 [james] Ver贸nica> En nuestro trabajo la tencion del Harnel Aoot es entre en lo que somos (FA-LA) y lo que podremos llegar hacer.( So-Ti).
19:55:51 [james] mariana> No, porque solamente estamos tratando de completar nuestra octava (DO-DO), no la octava que comienzan en las otra notas. continua estudiando estudiando el eneagrama de las 17 lineas y veras cada vez mas.
19:56:46 [james] PARA LA PROXIMA SEMANA ESTUDIAREMOS EL CAPITULO (SI).
19:57:16 [james] Alguna otra pregunta mis queridos companeros y amigos?
19:58:13 [jorge] De acuerdo gracias por tu atenci貌n y comppartir James y Alejandra y gracias a todos por compartir. Hasta pronto.
19:58:51 [james] Hasta Luego Jorge gusto en saludarte.
19:58:58 [mariana] muy bien, gracias queridos amigos nos vemos el sabado
20:00:03 [james] mariana> Claro que si mi gran amiga y gracias por tus esfuerzos de estar en este chat a ti a todos los estudiantes de la ciudad de Mexico.
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20:00:51 [Ver贸nica] Gracias a todos por hacer posible este maravilloso chat, especialmente al amoroso apoyo de Alex y James… nos vemos el s谩bado a las 11 con Russ
20:01:19 [james] Si con gusto, estaremos pendientes.
20:01:30 [Chris] Gracias amigos, buenas tardes a todos y nos veremos pronto. Gracias por su tiempo
20:02:19 [alejandra] HASTA EL SABADO.
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