15:59:32 [Tony] hello

16:00:13 [Alison] Tony> Hello – how are you and yours?

16:00:47 [Tony] Very well thanks

16:01:36 [Alison] Tony> The sun is shining and all is well with this part of the world as well

16:01:57 jperrott enters this room

16:02:07 [Tony] Glad to hear it.

16:03:20 stevew enters this room

16:03:21 scrivs enters this room

16:03:53 [jperrott] evening all!

16:04:30 [Alison] BM I have been contemplating control being a property of my major oscillation and how this makes sense as it explains simply why it is so difficult to break free.

16:04:31 [scrivs] ‘Ningall.

16:04:37 [Tony] jperrott> Evening.

16:04:40 james enters this room

16:04:52 [jperrott] Roll out your BMs in anticipation of the question.

16:05:11 [Alison] The deeper the control the deeper the oscillation

16:05:18 [Alison] BM

16:05:56 [scrivs] BM. Hearing ‘organised chaos’, and remembering that the whole caboodle is just that. Relatively.

16:06:38 [jperrott] BM Mine is the increased sensing/feeling of presence after ‘massive attempts’ at stopping my inner world.

16:06:39 [Alison] BM today is a 7th Day and the choice to ‘not participate’ in what is offered has not seemed attractive.

16:06:45 [Tony] B.M. Finding a way out of a difficult emotion.

16:07:04 [stevew] BM Again the memory work … p168 of Fourth Way … symptoms and results of not working against False Personality seen both in myself and in others.

16:07:05 [james] BM Seeing a round of "results of previous efforts" coming into my life and that, in turn, bringing about another round of being-efforts beyond what I have done before.

16:07:17 [Alison] Tony> What did you use to help you?

16:07:18 thedog enters this room

16:07:29 [jperrott] Tony> Are you able to say briefly how?

16:07:52 [thedog] Best moments

16:08:01 [scrivs] being present when X was having a tste of identification, and being able to not get involved but express impartiality re. the problem. Very cool.

16:09:04 [Alison] BM

16:09:30 [scrivs] "Taste".sp.

16:09:56 [scrivs] Some half hour.

16:10:04 [Tony] jperrott> Struggle with it caused duality so I sat with it and it changed.

16:10:15 [scrivs] At least.

16:10:59 [Alison] BM working a lot with ‘opposite postures’ I see that most of the time I am in ‘neutral’ doing the exercise has intensified my wish for movement

16:11:16 [jperrott] Tony> Good man! Gives a new meaning to "Divide and rule"!

16:12:06 [scrivs] jperrott> Like it!

16:12:18 [Alison] BM Finding the ‘interest’ in memory work – am doing a section of ‘Purgatory’ and thoroughly enjoying the process.

16:12:38 [Tony] jperrott> Ha, Yes.

16:12:44 [thedog] BM: using the alology that inertia applys to man, who – like in physics – wants to continue doing what he is doing and resists any change … and only if another force acts upon him will he possibly change.

16:13:17 [jperrott] scrivs> Feel free to do it!

16:13:26 [scrivs] thedog> Like it .

16:15:35 [scrivs] jperrott> I’m doubled up with anticipation…..

16:16:11 [scrivs] Alison> What was that interest? How did it arise?

16:16:18 [Alison] BM Enjoying the company of others and ‘listening’ what is being said – this week I have been less ‘insular’ and self-sufficient

16:16:29 mike enters this room

16:16:55 [mike] hello all

16:17:21 [jperrott] scrivs> ‘s nothing to it!

16:17:27 [thedog] BW2: Marianne, who is moving here from Mexico, didn’t have a green card. We were going to have to employ her (somehow) to get her to be able to be here (alot of government form and hoops to jump through to try to get that accomplished. Then we just found out she won the "Green Card Lottery"

16:17:40 [scrivs] BM. Same situation—reserving any judgement, and exhorting X to do the same until some FACTS had emerged.

16:18:04 [Alison] scrivs> It arose from being set the task of reading Purgatory and the interest is in seeing the prose and beauty of what I had previously seen as being tortology

16:18:41 [scrivs] jperrott> 2 x 0 = 0 !!

16:19:25 [Alison] mike> Greetings

16:20:13 jonny enters this room

16:21:06 [mike] BM: let five of the mice go – watched them scurry off into the fields and was about to leave but saw three babies on the ground. only thing that could be done was to put them under the hedgerow and hope their folks came back for them. aphorism 33 flagged up.

16:21:19 [jperrott] 1/2 – 1/2 = 0

16:21:27 [thedog] Before Questions, any other Best Moments?

16:21:54 [mike] Alison> hi alison

16:22:31 [jperrott] mike> Ain’t it nice when associations are significant?

16:22:58 [scrivs] BM. Sawin a flash–if one is in a state of neg ems then anything one says or thinks is false. A lie.

16:23:39 [mike] jperrott> constant reminders john

16:24:08 [Alison] scrivs> Sawin a flash must be like saw in the log……

16:25:52 [scrivs] BM.Great w/e of singing. Much hard work on tricky music. Ended witha super supper and some saucy madrigals. Great comraderie.

16:28:08 [Alison] BM

16:29:02 [jonny] BM; Similar to Mike’s. Our lab btought in a baby bunny,injured yet not dead. Nan put in "safe" place. It hid in utility room. I got home, found it,had trouble catchin it(good sign),

16:29:05 [scrivs] BM. Doing a cathedral-style a.m service in church. This was most rare at our place. They loved it and want more. Our leader has the bent to introduce novelty and shock.

16:30:28 [thedog] BM3: San in an atrcile taht poelpe raed olny the frsit and lsat ltrets of wrods and if tehy are rgiht tehn tehy can raed wahtveevr was wirtetn.

16:30:31 [jonny] let it go under shed,(it’s home).Mr. bunny took off like greased lightnin! Brought a tear,but no whimperin.

16:30:51 [Alison] BM Clearing out the house here is relatively easy as we have not collected a lot of excess but there is some and whilst there is even a little excess then we can never be free. Freedom may be the whole stick but thre aint much on the stick that is worth sticking with

16:30:52 [thedog] Saw*

16:31:33 [jonny] HeHe Mr. Smith,good BM3

16:33:32 [scrivs] W.BM . Failing to agree numbers with 2 clients b4 ending the work. Arguments were light. Shrugged off neg ems ‘cos did not want their company.

16:33:41 [mike] jperrott> john, the significance was the baby mice would probably die if their folks didn’t come back – reminded me of my own mortality

16:34:33 [thedog] After Best Moments, who has a question?

16:34:49 [jperrott] mike> Ever richer!

16:35:13 [scrivs] W.BM. Dismal failure to do R2R on the two days it wa attempted..

16:36:59 [jperrott] scrivs> I have good news for you! If you failed…it wasn’t attempted.

16:39:15 stevew exits from this room

16:40:43 [mike] thedog> the TI of 16th at 360 – "similarities-to-the-already-arisen-emerges" – just wondered whether 360 had any relevance in the sense of a circle being 360 degrees and "having come round full circle"?

16:41:31 [Tony] jperrott> "A man must do nothing that he does not understand…" p49 In search…How can we understand anything if we don’t do it first?

16:44:04 [thedog] mike> No. 1296 as octave 1 was a number that allowed most octaces to have whole numbers at their DO. I like to see things in whole numbers (makes it easier to digest. To have all of them at whole numbers required a very large # to start with. 1296 seemed the best compromise to accomplish that. :

16:44:13 [jperrott] Tony> Good question! What we must be able to do first is ‘not-doing’. When we can not do, we’ll see that we’re close to being able to do. It’s all our unreal doing that prevents our being able to do. However, we can learn this from trying.

16:44:31 james exits from this room

16:45:07 delongh@ma enters this room

16:45:21 james enters this room

16:45:31 [mike] thedog> just a thought – thanks for the clarification russell

16:45:38 [Alison] delongh@ma> Greetings

16:46:03 [delongh@ma] Hi all

16:46:45 [jperrott] delongh@ma> Your missives have been duly delivered. Greetings!

16:47:25 [mike] delongh@ma> hiya rickyboy

16:47:26 [delongh@ma] Thanks have loads of questions about the weft and warp

16:48:02 [scrivs]

16:48:48 [jperrott] scrivs>

16:49:08 [thedog] mike> I have even worked out the math wherein all scale 1 vibrations in all 19 octaves came out as whole numbers. But to took a very large # for the 1s octave and wasn’t a good visual. I will leave it to Richard to discover what # the 1s has to be to have all octaves’ DOs at whole numbers …

16:49:27 [thedog] and all octaves’ notes at whole numbers

16:50:09 [mike] thedog> he’ll be onto it right away

16:50:19 [delongh@ma] Thanks I’ll enjoy working that out

16:50:40 [mike] thedog> what did i say

16:50:43 [thedog] mike> hehe, I even have a model where all 19 octaves through 4 scales of inner octaves all calculate as whole numbers

16:51:15 [delongh@ma] That will be my next task

16:51:33 [jperrott] thedog> Is he allowed to use exponents?

16:51:41 [Alison] thedog> please stop – the lad will be up for days………….

16:51:59 [delongh@ma] Ive been trying to visualise a 3d weave

16:52:03 [mike] Alison> he doesn’t sleep

16:52:12 [thedog] jperrott> No, divorced ponets are not allowed

16:52:48 [jperrott] delongh@ma> But don’t forget the exercises – both sitting and ‘on the run’!

16:53:10 [thedog] delongh@ma> hehe, we used to have one of those … till the tinker toys came all unglued.

16:53:14 [delongh@ma] woof is a good work to track down

16:53:36 [mike] jperrott> on the rocket ship

16:53:44 [jperrott] thedog>

16:53:58 [delongh@ma] Word I meant but work will suffice

16:56:05 [delongh@ma] We had a good time at Martin’s last night

16:56:49 [mike] indeed we did

16:57:40 [Alison] delongh@ma> I will be with JEP when he next comes as we are traveling on to visit my family

16:57:46 [thedog] It is probably just me, but 1, 9/8, 5/4, 4/3, 3/2, 5/3, 15/8 and 2 doesn’t compute (for me) as well as 24, 27, 30, 32, 36, 40, 45 and 48 does.

16:58:29 [Alison] thedog> same for me

16:58:51 [delongh@ma] Yes,I find 24s really good.

16:59:06 jonny exits from this room

17:00:00 [delongh@ma] I’m really aiming at the taste of each tonality-what is a Fa,is it bitter?

17:00:05 [thedog] Wow, the hour has (again) flown by. Thanks one and all for sharing a bit of your week with me. Hope to see you all (again) next Sunday.

17:00:11 [Alison] Bye all – sleep little without regret

17:00:15 Alison exits from this room

17:00:39 [james] Good afternoon and good night!

17:00:47 [thedog] delongh@ma> Form your efforts, I would say, "So fa so good"

17:01:15 [Tony] Night all, Thank you.

17:01:43 [jperrott] delongh@ma> Remember, it’s all other notes as well. Hard to be bitter, sweet, acrid, sour, etc. simultaneously! Good night all!

17:01:46 [thedog] Night all "Long live your King:

17:02:18 [thedog] Dog Gone

17:02:27 Tony exits from this room

17:02:28 thedog exits from this room

17:02:30 [mike] night all and many thanks