12:01:59 [csmith] Happy April Fools to everyone

12:02:06 [MigueAngel] Very good conscious morning to ye’all!!!

12:02:07 [james] Buenos Dias!

12:02:25 [vero] Hola buenos días a todos… good morning everybody

12:02:31 [MigueAngel] Muy buenos días conscientes a todos ustedes!!!

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12:02:54 [azavala] csmith> FELIZ APRIL FOOLS A TODOS

12:03:01 [MARIA] buenos días

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12:03:25 [MARIA] gracias, igual para todos de mi parte FELICIDADES!!

12:03:37 [juanpablo] buenos dias a todos

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12:04:25 [enrique] buenos dias. MB fue estar conmigo otra vez, sin juicios.

12:04:31 [MigueAngel] Oh Yeah Today is April Fool’s day…. congratulations to all The Dog Students!!! and specially to Russ, the discoverer!!!

12:05:17 [MigueAngel] Enrique: My BM was to be with myself again, without judgements.

12:05:37 [juanpablo] mi mejor momento fue hoy al separame de la maquina cuando intenteba espresar emocion negativa.

12:05:54 [csmith] Best Moment: A willed decision to embrace Cosmic Secrets in celebration of my "birthday", April 4, 2000.

12:06:03 [azavala] MigueAngel> A SÍ HOY ES EL DÍA APRIL FOOL…..FELICIDADES A TODOS LOS ESTUDIANTES DEL DOG!!!…ESPECIALMENTE A RUSS, QUIEN LO DESCUBRIÓ!!!

12:06:10 [MigueAngel] Juan Pablo: my BM today, detaching from the machine trying to express negative emotion.

12:06:18 [vero] Uno de mis mejores momentos fue el comprender el aforismo 100, después de haber estado haciendo esfuerzos masivos¡¡¡

12:06:39 [csmith] should have said, "embrace the study of Cosmic Secrets"

12:07:19 [MigueAngel] I will be celebrating my awakening birthay on April the 6th…. aleluya!!!

12:07:42 [vero] Otro momento fue el domingo pasado al estar estudiando el cap FA para el chat del lunes

12:08:00 [MigueAngel] Verónica: One of my BM, understanding aphorism 100, after doing massive efforts!!!

12:08:12 [azavala] csmith> MI MEJOR MOMENTO: UNA DECISIÓN VOLUNTARIA DE ABRAZAR APASIONADAMENTE (ADOPTAR) "SECRETOS CÓSMICOS" EN LA CELEBRACIÓN DE MI "CUMPLEAÑOS", 4 DE ABRIL DEL 2000.

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12:08:47 [MigueAngel] Verónica: another BM, on last Sunday, studying chapter FA for the monday chat.

12:09:05 [azavala] csmith> DEBÍ HABER DICHO, "ADOPTAR EL ESTUDIO DE SECRETOS CÓSMICOS"…

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12:09:45 [mariana] buenos dias a todos ,mi mejor momento fue el dia de ayer al darme cuenta que no hay falla en el esfuerzo,

12:10:19 [azavala] MigueAngel> ESTARÉ CELEBRANDO MI DESPERTAR EL 6 DE ABRIL….ALELUYA!!!!

12:10:25 [MigueAngel] Mariana: my BM today, realizing there is no failure in effort.

12:10:51 [james] My best moments were from pushing through a long day (20 hours), getting a few hours of sleep and following it with another long day, all the while maintaining my state and using my aims as my reminding factors so I never had time to get tired!

12:12:14 [MaUrIkAnTo] thedog> Good morning!!! my best moment was have found that i work more, i will receive more !!

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12:12:50 [MaUrIkAnTo] thedog> Mi mejor momento fue darme cuenta que entre mas trabaje, mas recibo!!

12:13:37 [azavala] james> MI MEJOR MOMENTO FUE IMPULSARME A TRAVÉS DE UN LARGO DÍA (20 HORAS), TENIENDO SÓLO UNAS POCAS HORAS DE SUEÑO Y SEGUIR CON OTRO LARGO DÍA, TODO EL TIEMPO MANTENIENDO MI ESTADO Y USANDO MIS PROPÓSITOS COMO FACTOR DE RECUERDO, ASÍ QUE NUNCA TUVE TIEMPO DE SENTIRME CANSADO!!

12:15:46 [enriquev] en el cuarto camino se dice que lo prinero que debo hacer es darme cuenta de que no soy consciente de mi mismo,con el aprilfool, debo darme cuenta de que no soy plenamente consciente y asi trabajar para conseguirlo,cuando llego a los momentos de imparcialidad, me doy cuenta de que no soy plenamente

12:16:18 [enriquev] imparcial, entonces hago los esfuerzos para lograrlo, asi funciona este proceso?

12:19:08 [MigueAngel] Enrique: reading Fourth Way, found that the first thing is to realize I am not conscious of myself. With April Fool’s exercise, I must realize I am not fully conscious and then work to be. When I achieve impartiality moments I realize I am not fully impartial, then I make effort to be Is this ok?

12:19:10 [mariana] al estar en un esfuerzo de aplicar el trabajo me he dado cuenta que no hay momentos para que la maquina se sienta en un estado de comodidad sino todo lo contrario ,observo inexactitudes y a la maquina no le es agradable,como puedo trabajar para que la maquina coopere?

12:20:43 [MigueAngel] Mariana: in doing a work effort, I realize there are no moments for the machine to feel comfortable but the opposite. I observe inexactitudes and the machine doesn’t like that. How can I work for the machine to cooperate?

12:21:46 [juanpablo] una respuesta del mental superior debe de caer en todos los centro o no nesesariamente? ya que en algunas ocaciones no hay respuesta y hay el deseo de hacer algo.y en algunas ocaciones viceversa .,

12:21:55 [MARIA] en el juego consciente un hasnamuss no logra cristalizar su cuerpo astral cuando termina la espiral de vida del cuerpo físico, es eliminado?

12:22:07 [vero] El miércoles preguntaba un estudiante, cómo diferenciar, después de hacer el ej. de Retroalimentación Superior, la respuesta de los centros superiores del formatiorio?

12:22:32 [vero] formatorio, sorry

12:23:35 [MigueAngel] Juan Pablo. and aswer from Higher Mental must fall in all centers or it isn’t necessary? I mean this because some times there is no answer and I wish to do something about it, some times the other way around.

12:24:28 [MigueAngel] María: en conscious board game, a Hasnamuss doesn´t cristalize his astral body. When finishing the fibonaccy spiral, is he eliminated?

12:24:30 [MARIA] Cuando un hasnamuss cae en donde está otro hasnamuss alguno de ellos es destruído?

12:24:40 [juanpablo] la informacion que entra durante el dia en un estado de mecanisidad es almacenada por los (jotos) al estar mas conciente en el dia y alcanzar los (reyes)esta informacion es recogida por estos y corregida ?

12:25:20 [juanpablo] y asi poder trabajar con ella?

12:25:38 [vero] Leyendo comentarios psicológicos de Nicoll, dice que como no somos directamente conscientes de nuestras acitutdes, debemos tratar de descubrirlas por medio de algún método, como ser reparando en los efectos que producen, cómo puedo trabajarlo?

12:25:47 [MigueAngel] Verónica: On Wednesday a student asked: how to differenciate, after an exercise with Higher Feedback, an answer from Higher Mind and another from the formatory apparatus?

12:26:29 [MigueAngel] María: When a Hasnamuss falls where there is another Hasnamuss, is one of them destroyed?

12:28:35 [MigueAngel] Juan Pablo. The information entering during the day in a mechanical state is stored in the jacks; when being more conscious and being able to reach the kings is this information collected by them and they corrected?

12:28:50 [vero] Cómo debo entender "Amarás a tu prójimo como a ti mismo", haciendo enfásis en el "a ti mismo", para no caer en el amor de sí?

12:29:08 [MARIA] En ocasiones cuando me explican alguna idea del trabajo y la comprendo no puedo evitar llorar, estoy en la parte intelectual de mi centro emocional o qué parte está funcionando?

12:29:24 [thedog] MigueAngel> The one who lands on the other is destroyed.

12:30:11 [azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- AQUEL QUE ATERRIZA SOBRE EL OTRO ES DESTRUIDO.

12:30:22 [MigueAngel] Verónica: Reading commetaries by Nicoll, he mentions how we are not directly conscious of our attitudes; we must try to discover them somehow, how to correct the effects produced? how can I work that?

12:30:35 [mariana] cual seria un ejemplo de la parte intelectual del centro emocional superior?

12:30:45 [thedog] MARIA> Anyone who does not creater astral body is dead.

12:31:37 [MigueAngel] Verónica: How can I understand: "Ye shall love your neighbor as yourself"? is this emphasasing "as yourself" in order to not fall into self-love?

12:31:45 [azavala] thedog> MARIA.- CUALQUIERA QUE NO CREA UN CUERPO ASTRAL ESTÁ MUERTO.

12:31:56 [thedog] enriquev> Very good.

12:32:16 [azavala] thedog> enrique.- MUY BIEN.

12:33:16 [MARIA] Cuando sale una ley de "Permanece dormido o mecánico por *x* espacios" se toman las leyes del camino y se juegan?

12:34:37 [thedog] mariana> The machine may not like it but it will adjust to it. A guard outside of Buckingham Palace, stands motionless for hours. His machine rebelled at first, but his duty was greater that his comfort.

12:37:17 [azavala] thedog> mariana.- PUEDE QUE A LA MÁQUINA NO LE GUSTE, PERO SE AJUSTARÁ A ELLO. UN GUARDIA FUERA DEL PALACIO DE BUCKINGHAM PERMANECERÁ INMOVIL DURANTE HORAS. SU MÁQUINA SE REBELARÁ AL PRINCIPIO, PERO SU DEBER FUE MÁS GRANDE QUE SU CONFORT.

12:38:29 [thedog] juanpablo> Everything we do we improve at. Try reformulating the question you are asking. Some questions are to broad. But the key is to just keep asking.

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12:39:45 [MigueAngel] Marìa: which would be and example of the intellectual part of the Higher Emotional?

12:40:09 [mariana] cuando se dice que nada se puede hacer,esta frase la debo de entender :nada se puede hacer desde la parte mecanica ?y cuando se esta en una unificacion de los centros el hacer se vuelve el deber?

12:40:35 [azavala] thedog> juanpablo.- NOSOTROS INCREMENTAMOS A TODO LO QUE HACEMOS. TRATA DE REFORMULAR LA PREGUNTA QUE HACES. ALGUNAS CUESTIONES SON DEMASIADO AMPLIAS. PERO LA CLAVE ESTÁ EN CONTINUAR PREGUNTANDO.

12:40:36 [MaUrIkAnTo] Cuando hablamos de las 48 ordenes de leyes que nos rigen, Se pueden saber aparte de la ley de gravedad, de causa y efecto, de flujo y reflujo, etc. las demas leyes? A efecto de saber con que nos estamos enfrentando?

12:40:55 [enriquev] en la postura incomoda me recuerdo a mi mismo por medio del c.inst.motriz, puedo recordarme con el CESuperior,es decir el aprilfool seria el resultado de aquel y como el recordarme, si es asi, desde el mental superior?

12:40:57 [MigueAngel] Marìa: When a law that says: "remaing asleep or mechanical…such spaces" the laws in the way are played?

12:41:23 [thedog] MigueAngel> Hirher mind answers have a certain taste. You know it is from reason and impartiality. If a man asks, "Where did I leave my car keys"?, when he gets the right answer, he knows that it is the right answer.

12:42:32 [csmith]>[thedog] Is 1 p.m., your time good for me to call? Other suggestions?

12:43:15 [MigueAngel] Mariana: When it is said that we can do nothing; must I understand that I can’t do from my mechanical parts? whe we get unified the doing becomes a duty?

12:43:39 [azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- LAS RESPUESTAS DEL MENTAL SUPERIOR TIENEN UN CIERTO SABOR. TÚ SABES QUE VIENE DE LA RAZÓN Y LA IMPARCIALIDAD. SI UN HOMBRE PREGUNTA:¿"DÓNDE DEJE LAS LLAVES DE MI AUTOMOVIL"?, CUANDO OBTIENE LA RESPUESTA CORRECTA, ÉL SABE QUE ES LA RESPUESTA CORRECTA.

12:43:40 [thedog] juanpablo> Parts of Centers are connected to Attention. No attention, Drawn attention, Controlled attention. Normal walking, Walking to avoid puddles, Walking through a mine field, etc.

12:44:11 [MaUrIkAnTo] thedog> When we talk about the 48 laws, Is it possible to know, in adittion of gravity law, cause and effect, etc. the other 45 laws? to know what kind of laws that we need to "fight"

12:45:40 [thedog] vero> Change attitudes till you have none. "Judge not, least ye be judged".

12:46:16 [azavala] thedog> juanpablo.- LAS PARTES DE LOS CENTROS ESTÁN CONECTADAS A LA ATENCIÓN. – SIN ATENCIÓN; ATENCIÓN ATRAÍDA; ATENCIÓN CONTROLADA.- EJEMPLO.- EL CAMINAR NORMAL; CAMINAR EVITANDO CHARCOS; CAMINAR A TRAVÉS DE UN CAMPO MINADO…

12:46:36 [MaUrIkAnTo] thedog> Is it possible to destroy the kundabuffer making exercises every time? or kundabuffer will be "passive" but not "death"?

12:47:28 [thedog] MARIA> Int. part of the higher emotional center would be the emotional center under almost total control, from there, one could turn the other cheek.

12:47:29 [MaUrIkAnTo] thedog> Sera posible destruir al kundabuffer haciendo ejercicios todo el tiempo? o el kundabuffer se volvera pasivo mas no muerto?

12:49:07 [azavala] thedog> vero.- CAMBIA LAS ACTITUDES HASTA NO TENER NINGUNA. "NO JUZGUES Y NO SERÁS JUZGADO" (CON LA VARA QUE MIDAS, SERÁS MEDIDO).

12:49:16 [thedog] MARIA> Nothing is played, drawn, or done for those 21 spaces. Only laws that are already in play or that other players put in play during those spaces are obeyed.

12:50:08 [MARIA] una ley que otorga jugar el lado opuesto del dado o tirar otra vez por única ocasión la obedece un hasnamuss que obedece a una ley de no opción de dado por la duración de tu existencia?

12:50:35 [azavala] thedog> MARIA.- LA PARTE INTELECTUAL DEL CENTRO EMOCIONAL SUPERIOR SERÍA EL CENTRO EMOCIONAL CASI BAJO UN TOTAL CONTROL, DESDE AQUÍ, UNO PODRÍA OFRECER LA OTRA MEJILLA.

12:51:34 [thedog] MARIA> Only a unifed man can do in the true sense. We must begin by not doing.

12:51:56 [MigueAngel] Marìa: a law that gives you the other side of the die to play, or to draw the die again for just one time, should be obeyed by a Hasnamuss that has no die option for the duration of his existence?

12:53:50 [thedog] MARIA> Yes. Laws must be obeyed that are put in play, just like the one that said you are a hasnamuss, or one that said die, etc.

12:55:36 [azavala] thedog> MARIA.- NADA ES JUGADO, TOMADO O HECHO DURANTE ESOS 21 ESPACIOS. SÓLO LAS LEYES QUE YA ESTÁN EN JUEGO O ESOS OTROS JUGADORES PONEN EN JUEGO DURANTE ESOS ESPACIOS.

12:56:20 [azavala] thedog> MARIA.- SÓLO UN HOMBRE UNIFICADO PUEDE HACER EN EL VERDADERO SENTIDO. NOSOTROS DEBEMOS EMPEZAR POR NO HACER.

12:57:55 [azavala] thedog> MARIA.- SÍ.- LAS LEYES DEBEN SER OBEDECIDAS ESAS QUE ESTÁN EN JUEGO, TAL COMO LA QUE DICE QUE TÚ ERES UN HASNAMUSS, O UNA QUE DICE MORIR, ETC.

12:58:07 [thedog] MaUrIkAnTo> There are only 18 laws. 3+3+3+3+3+3. Yes, we can know what they are. We cannot fight laws. You will never levitate, or start breathing sulphur gasses instead of oxygen.

13:00:11 [azavala] thedog> MaUrIkAnTo.- SÓLO HAY 18 LEYES 3+3+3+3+3+3. SÍ, NOSOTROS PODEMOS SABER QUÉ SON. NO PODEMOS LUCHAR CON LAS LEYES. TÚ NUNCA LEVITARÁS O EMPEZARÁS A RESPIRAR GAS SULFÚRICO EN LUGAR DE OXÍGENO.

13:00:42 [MaUrIkAnTo] thedog> OK, so, do i inderstand that this 18 laws are material laws and psicological laws? and other levels?

13:01:24 [thedog] MaUrIkAnTo> Kundabuffer is the idea that things become mechanical or go to the bottom. It is a good thing to have but can make a man lazy. Higher centers need attention. Lower parts function automatically. Kundabuffer means that things get driven into the lower parts.

13:01:33 [MaUrIkAnTo] thedog>Bien, asi que debo entender que estas 18 leyes se conforman de leyes materiales y psicologicas? y aparte de otros niveles?

13:02:25 [thedog] Wow, the hour has come and gone. Thanks, to all, for being here.

13:02:49 [thedog]>[csmith] great

13:03:02 [MigueAngel] Ok Dear and beloved friends and Dog-students… thank you for your presence, we need to move to another chat with Russ and the English speaking students.

13:03:23 [thedog]>[thedog] I pm

13:03:32 [MigueAngel] Bye bye todos…. No voy a estar el pròximo sabado con ustedes… hay les encargo este chat.

13:03:38 [juanpablo] gracias a todos buen dia

13:03:40 [thedog]>[csmith] 1 PM

13:03:47 [MigueAngel] alejandra> Podrìas hacerte cargo? el pròxicmo sabado?

13:03:57 [azavala] thedog> MaUrIkAnTo.- EL KUNDABUFFER ES LA IDEA DE QUE LAS COSAS SE HACEN MECÁNICAS O QUE SE VAN AL FONDO. ES BUENO TENERLO PERO PUEDEN HACER FLOJO AL HOMBRE. LOS CENTROS SUPERIORES NECESITAN ATENCIÓN. LAS PARTES INFERIORES FUNCIONAN AUTOMÁTICAMENTE. KUNDABUFER SIGNIFICA QUE LAS COSAS SERÁN ENVIADAS

13:04:03 [azavala] A LAS PARTES MÁS BAJAS.

13:04:05 [csmith]>[thedog] see you then

13:04:21 [csmith] bye for now, dear friends.

13:04:28 [vero] Muchas gracias por todo, nos vemos el próximo sábado a las 11… que tengan un fin de semana consciente¡¡

13:04:30 [azavala] thedog> WOW, LA HORA SE HA IDO. GRACIAS A TODOS POR ESTAR AQUÍ.

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13:04:33 [thedog]>[csmith] Yes sir, looking forward to it

13:05:00 [MaUrIkAnTo] gracias por todo, pasen excelente fin de semana.

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13:05:25 [enriquev] gracias a todos

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13:05:31 [mariana] gracias a todos buen dia.

13:05:38 [azavala] MigueAngel> OK QUERIDOS Y AMADOS AMIGOS Y ESTUDIANTES DEL DOG…GRACIAS POR SU PRESENCIA. NECESITAMOS MOVERNOS A OTRO CHAT CON RUSS Y LOS ESTUDIANTES DE HABLA INGLESA.

13:05:49 [vero] Nos vemos el próximo lunes en el chat con Alex y James

13:06:11 [MARIA] gracias

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13:06:43 [vero] alejandra> besos y abrazos, amiga¡¡¡ que tengas un excelente día de Aprilfools

13:07:03 [azavala] TENGAN UN EXCELENTE FIN DE SEMANA.- ABRAZOS!!!

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13:07:15 [alejandra] vero> Gracias vero!! te mando un beso y un abrazo!

13:08:09 [vero] Gracias Alfonso, pronto nos veremos en Vallarta¡¡¡

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16:01:09 [thedog] Best Moments

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16:02:20 [stevew] At last we meet … for the first time, this time.

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16:02:45 [thedog] stevew>

16:03:27 [stevew] BM: Watching the video about super-massive black holes and "seeing" in parallel, the corresponding animation of the laws that give rise to those phenomena.

16:03:37 [csmith] Best Moment: an act of will to re-embrace the study of CS and a first conversation with Russell yesterday.

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16:05:02 [stevew] BM2: "Seeing" the correspondence between the formation of galaxies and the formation of religions.

16:05:09 [scrivs] Hallo chaps!

16:05:41 [csmith] hallo!

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16:06:22 [stevew] scrivs> Hi, Ken.

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16:07:01 [mikewp] hello all

16:07:27 [scrivs] BM. Confronting a ‘demon’ .Said I was going to kill it. Made it so nasty it went.Felt immediate relief, and almost disbelief!. Life got easier without the image I was identified with.

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16:07:55 [scrivs] Next day brought moments of great peace.

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16:09:10 [scrivs] The initial fault was to indulge the image . It became an idol. Next fault was to call it ‘I’, thereby giving it a power that was quite inappropriate.

16:09:27 [thedog] stevew> Super Massive Black Holes and the changing of the laws is a great parallel.

16:09:35 [scrivs] Hallo Steven

16:11:13 [thedog] scrivs> Bravo Scriv

16:11:23 [scrivs] Hallo Su

16:11:45 [mikewp] BM: remembering to make a deal with a part of me that didn’t want to work, telling it that – ok, you can have your ‘sweets’ as long as you help to complete this study first of all. rather than friction, tension and infighting which would have come from a straight denial, there was a sense of calm..

16:11:59 [mikewp] …and willing cooperation

16:12:22 [susanhagan] Watching a film about Galileo. Hearing that he saw that a ‘body’ will stay in the same position until an external force pushes it to move. Seeing the relationship of that to myself.. as above ..so below!

16:12:44 [scrivs] thedog> It seemed miraculous. I tried the same thing on something else. It would have worked, but another I or group of tempted me and I fell back.

16:12:44 [sperrott] BM. Seeing a pattern of behaviour that has percipitated negativity

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16:12:58 [susanhagan] Hallo Ken?

16:13:22 [gary] BM Using the ability to memorise infomation to answer detailed exam questions

16:13:46 [scrivs] ‘Tis I

16:14:39 [thedog] sperrott> Did you get the video?

16:15:41 [thedog] gary> Way to go Gary

16:15:49 [sperrott] thedog> Yes. Did you not receive the email to let you know? I sent it to Pam’s email address. Saul, Steve and I watched it togther.

16:16:07 [thedog] sperrott> cool

16:16:27 [susanhagan] Another BM: Seeing during class yesterday, as a result of a particular formation of words used by another class member how doubling works and experiencing a sense of wonder at the transformation of the manifestation of mechanicality into the ability to see it for what it really is??

16:16:28 [gary] scrivs> W hat do you mean by " made it so nasty it went"?

16:16:40 [james] BM – Doing a Higher Feedback over several days and continuing to get more answers.

16:16:40 [susanhagan] How and where is JEP?

16:17:26 [sperrott] thedog> It would be great to have copies of the others that you recorded from the TV too – the others that I wathed while I was there?

16:17:43 [scrivs] >/TO susanhagan > nor Shirl.

16:18:20 [susanhagan] Whoops! Sanger too?

16:18:58 [scrivs] susanhagan> No.

16:19:15 [thedog] Don’t know why JEP isn’t on. Unless he can’t get a signal?

16:19:34 [susanhagan] Thanks for the answer, Russ!

16:22:00 [thedog] What other Best Moments or realizations of you Cosmic Secrets investigations have you made.

16:22:43 [thedog] sperrott> Will send some back with JEP

16:23:12 [scrivs]>[thedog] > I’d want to come visit you late May or early june for 3 weeks. maybe a few days after you get back from P.V. Is that a ‘go’ , please?

16:23:22 [sperrott] Thanks to all those that offered comments in the last re the presentation I was about to do.I passed although I don’t know my grade yet. I drank a couple of glasses of wone the night before and studied for it in a much ,ore relaxed manner and then on the day, drank half a glass before I went in.

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16:23:51 [sperrott] oops looks like I am drunk now…..;-/

16:24:02 [thedog] there he is

16:24:21 [jperrott] With the adaptor haning out of the window – I can get a signal!

16:24:27 [thedog]>[scrivs] sure

16:24:45 [jperrott] )ops! s/haning/hanging!

16:24:56 [scrivs] thedog> YeeHaaa.thedog

16:25:22 [scrivs]>[thedog] >

16:25:34 [stevew] Saw correspondences between hydrogen bonds in RNA / DNA and similar links between oscillations in how people fall into "relationships" of different kinds.

16:25:46 [sperrott] I was a little more relaxed – and watched my heartd thudding in my chest – (YES, I KNEW I WAS ALIVE) as others did their presentations first…and I looked for what I could use to calm those parts that were scared……It was a comment Juliet, my sister had made some days before in relation to

16:25:49 [gary] BM Over came negative emotions connected with social events – also noticed that I lack social skills in my personality.

16:26:50 [thedog] stevew> Nice Steve

16:27:18 [scrivs] Heard the isea that people can affect eachother as viruses affect a host.Change the target to suit your needs /whims whatever. Multiply that way.

16:27:45 [scrivs] Reprogram the host.

16:28:07 [sperrott] something lese, that came to mind…’One day we won’t be here anymore sis; God!! Don’t we just take too much too seriously…and how not to’. Each time I recalled this, my heart slowed and tension left me. Remembering that I am a visitor here and my physical life is nothing in comparison to the

16:28:19 [sperrott] life span of the planet….

16:29:40 [susanhagan] Speaking of relationships: I saw that they depend upon attitude. The right (appropriate) attitude to oneself, to life and to the other, and to the Universe. One has to value it all and not forget the parts!

16:29:42 [sperrott] Because I was calm – I remembered most of it – if not all – but more than two thirds to be sure 😉 I realised that through my fears I had practised and pracstised and actually memorised much of it without realising.

16:30:04 [thedog] sperrott> Good Job

16:30:13 [scrivs] gary> Sorry Gary. I told it I was going to hunt it down and kill it horribly. It was my quarry. It would wish it’d never been born. It would die a sloew and painful death,etc. But if it went NOW it had 5 seconds to do so….It went.

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16:31:34 [sperrott] thedog> As I have sais before Russ, I would like to keep communications re the work – between us – and not including Dad. Therefore, beings my request for the video’s is work-related – I would be grateful to keep it separate from Dad.Please can you send them to me.

16:31:50 [jperrott] mikewp> Still "reeling"?

16:32:11 [sperrott]>[thedog] Sorry, that was meant to be private

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16:33:27 [thedog] sperrott> Hmm, as I gave you an essence task to overcome one of the causes of your arising. It seems only fitting to help you in that task, as it seems you have made little progress in freeing yourself. I shall send the tapes with John.

16:33:32 [scrivs] BM.In a moment of uncertainty HF , in response, said ‘ Sit down, think of God and EXULT! ‘ The latter part resulted in the simple yet amazing fact that there is a higher. There always will be. We don’t have to linger here.

16:34:12 [mikewp] jperrott> reeled in bit now but the sense of wonder is still very much alive

16:34:18 [gary] scrivsThank you, I like that idea. I need to go hunting myself!

16:35:02 [scrivs] gary> Hunting, stalking ( if you’ve read Casteneda).

16:35:07 [jperrott] mikewp> A sense of wonder is high octane stuff!

16:35:15 [sperrott] thedog> After my Father threatened to punch me – I detatched from him as a teacher. I will forgo the tapes. I will not be responding to any tasks involving my Dad at this time.

16:35:47 [gary] jperrott> What’s the best way to deal with anger that’s connected with the past?

16:36:00 [mikewp] jperrott> that’s wonderful john

16:36:31 [jperrott] gary> Forgiveness.

16:36:36 [thedog] sperrott> As YOU wish apparently

16:38:03 [sperrott] thedog> Sometimes choices are hard to make

16:39:37 [scrivs] thedog> While doing a Chi exercise, I ehanced the experience of being present by increasing sensation. Is that not good to do? To alter the form of the exercise?

16:40:03 [jperrott] delongh@ma> Are you "at home" with this facility yet, Richard?

16:40:16 [delongh@ma] I had a best moment earlier on, most things are 2d. what if they appeared 3d?

16:41:01 [csmith] gary> when Russ and Jeff took me to the airport after my April Fools experience, Russ asked if I continued to hold and "accounts". I said, "no". Later, I after Deputy Steward was doing the Deputy’s work under Steward’s direction, I realized I’d lied. In the ensuing 6 years, I wonder . . .

16:41:04 [angie] thedog> In regards to an octave being between each note, I know you use inner and outer octaves to show this. Can you help me with the understanding of why you use both. It seems as though both are necessary. But it also seems disjointed.

16:41:04 [jperrott] delongh@ma> Is that for me, richard – or are you addressing everyone?

16:41:31 [scrivs] susanhagan> OOOOPS! Not you!

16:41:35 [gary] jperrott> Do you mean to be able to turn the anger itself into forgiveness or use the source of the anger, which seems to have come from fear?

16:41:39 [delongh@ma] I am working to become transparent

16:41:59 [sperrott] Q – Suppose it still happens now too? Do we keep walking up the same road falling in the sanem hole? I have placed some boundaries Russ. I don’t feel superior or inferior – I feel real. Nothing was more serious than the last April fool’s experience. I didnt change state – my bring changed –

16:42:12 [csmith] gary> er. . .any accounts. I wonder if a conscious person making massive attempts can ever justify resentments?

16:42:25 [thedog] scrivs> It if fine, any focused sensitivity will do.

16:42:54 [angie] delongh@ma> big aim

16:42:55 [sperrott] and now part of that result, is me protecting myself where I need to.

16:43:35 [jperrott] gary> Good question! I would do my best to see how I’d been angered and that, the boot could have been on the other foot.

16:44:03 [thedog] angie> We are concerned with what is occurring between a defined set of vibrations. It doesn’t matter to the orange tree which outer octave polinates its blossoms.

16:44:28 [scrivs] stevew> Get that Steve?

16:44:52 [angie] thedog> and the inner octaves are just as important in the development

16:44:54 [delongh@ma] jperrott> More at home with the name facility now , thanks

16:45:17 [gary] jperrott> Thank you!

16:45:22 [jperrott] delongh@ma> Good for you!

16:45:26 [csmith] I apologize for the previous ambiguity. I know that a conscious person making massive attempts cannot justify resentments.

16:45:34 [stevew] scrivs> Get what?

16:45:52 [stevew] scrivs> Ah … you mean the exercise.

16:46:19 [sperrott] I have behaved the same…..and the same……steadfast through my subjectivity in the face of my Father. Instead of being loved – he has just told me over and over again why I can’t be – what’s wrong with me. That’s ok. I can accept that. It is one persons opinion albeit my one and only Father’s.

16:46:21 [stevew] scrivs> I just said that when we vary an exercise, we need to remember that we are varying it … not "improving" it.

16:46:31 [scrivs] angie> I worked out tyat by attaining the Ti in lesser octaves—up to the 7th in fact –that one can get within a smidgeon of a percent of the Ti in scale one.

16:46:36 [thedog] angie> Inner of outer or outer are irrelevant, what is important is that they occur between a certain defined set of vibrations.

16:46:51 [gary] csmith> I’m not conscious!

16:47:00 [scrivs] stevew> Beg pardon. Of course.

16:47:04 [stevew] scrivs> Until, that is, we know both the proper result of the exercise (not its transient effects) and how it achieves that result.

16:47:31 [angie] thedog> got it, thanks

16:48:06 [csmith] gary> haha! neither am I, but I’m working on it.

16:48:42 [susanhagan] When I joined the chat I was reminded to be polite! Was that message not sent to you, Sarah?

16:48:44 [angie] scrivs> thanks scriv, but I’m not quite sure what that means.

16:48:53 [gary] csmith>

16:49:10 [thedog] sperrott> A true sign of a good man is if he loves his Father and Mother … It doesn’t say anything about them loving you. The burden of forgiveness is on you. Only then will YOU be free.

16:49:19 [scrivs] stevew> Maybe I get to beef it up , with some flair. Experiments yield results, both ‘good’ and ‘bad’.

16:49:30 [sperrott] But I still dont have the being to be able to be around someone that manifests one thing to most most of the time but hides certain inexactitudes, to the point of perhaps not seeing them himself – when the these certain parts are so incredibly frightening. One thing or another will happen first

16:50:03 [delongh@ma] I really meant so I could see myself more(transparenc)

16:50:07 [sperrott] either I will ahve the being to be able to be in Dad’s sompany – or he will see what presently manifests from time to time without check…

16:50:34 [sperrott] I forgive Dad Russ……I am just preventing it being repeated

16:51:10 [angie] delongh@ma> Yes sir! That is a practical aim!

16:51:14 [thedog] sperrott> good

16:52:10 [delongh@ma] angie> I could begin with the good bits

16:52:10 [angie] scrivs> Yes, but how does that apply to an octave being inbetween each note?

16:53:15 [gary] csmith> Warts and wrinkles, may we see our own, forgive others for theirs and strive for wholeness!

16:53:19 [scrivs] angie> Dunno. Maybe it don’t.

16:53:23 [susanhagan] To die to ones self-importance: puny little things that we are! That is the task!

16:53:36 [angie] delongh@ma> That’s According to Law

16:53:47 [stevew] angie> Maybe it is more significant that there IS an octave filling each stopinder, rather than that there should be one "right" way to discover and validate that thing.

16:53:50 [csmith] gary> ahem! and amen!

16:54:27 [sperrott] There is no point in standing in front of a truck wishing you were God

16:54:32 [sperrott] aph no 22

16:55:14 [angie] stevew> thanks Steve, I appreciate any input

16:56:08 [angie] stevew> Are there other options?

16:56:18 [sperrott] gary> How come I have written a freindly email to you in the last few days and you have onoy responded with a dry one liner?Wheres the striving for wholeness in that

16:58:01 [stevew] angie> Every stopinder can be seen as a totality … and every totality has a diatonic inner structure.

16:59:18 [csmith]>[thedog] 16:56:18, strains of a KSR in this!

16:59:31 [angie] stevew> then each of those notes has an octave between them, and so on, but does is it only filled as seen in Chapter 7?

17:00:00 [angie] stevew> forget the does!

17:00:00 [scrivs] susanhagan> Nice one Su.

17:00:27 [delongh@ma] jperrott> I like the smiley faces popping up

17:00:52 [stevew] angie> Remember in chapter 2, where "it seems as if each note becomes how far it moved"?

17:00:58 [jperrott] delongh@ma> I’ll send you an e-mail with instructions.

17:01:07 [angie] delongh@ma> You too can smile…use the ? button and discover many more.

17:01:28 [stevew] angie> There are lots of ways that one can look at each stopinder and see how it receives a diatonic structure.

17:01:33 [angie] stevew> Yes…

17:01:48 [stevew] angie> Each wayu of looking reveals new correspondences and possibilities.

17:02:21 [angie] stevew> thanks, you have given me some stuff to ponder.

17:02:48 [sperrott] 🙂 N night all.

17:02:57 [stevew] angie> The Formatory Apparatus can only say "yes" and "no". Reason must embrace all possibilities, with no boundaries.

17:03:10 [scrivs] Night S.

17:03:21 [stevew] angie> Then any structures that are present will present themselves.

17:03:36 [csmith] As Roy Rogers and Dales Evans used to sing, "Happy Trails to You, Until we meet again. . ."

17:03:52 [csmith] My love and best wishes!

17:03:54 [mikewp] goodnight everyone

17:04:05 [stevew] Good night and good wishes.

17:04:15 [jperrott] Goes for me too – love and best wishes to all!

17:04:23 [james] Good night from across the pond…

17:04:27 [angie] Goodnight and thank you!

17:04:35 [scrivs] May your god go with you. Nightie night.

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17:05:01 [gary] Good night.

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17:07:48 [delongh@ma] thedog> Thanks for the material

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19:05:18 [vero] Hola buenas tardes, queridos amigos

19:05:48 [mariana] hola buenas tardes a todos

19:05:55 [alejandra] Buenas Tardes a Todos!

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19:06:28 [james] Mejores Momentos de la Semana!!!

19:06:32 [renatta] Buenas tardes a todos, feliz inicio de semana!!!-

19:07:22 [vero] Uno de mis mejores momentos de la semana fue el sábado en el chat, al responderle Russ a Maria, sobre el centro emocional superior

19:08:18 [james] Mi mejor momento fue el dia de ayer con los estudiantes a la clase y una reunion, ver todos los estuadiantes desde England y Sanger juntos!

19:08:18 [mariana] mi mejor momento de la semana fue ayer al hacer el esfuerzo de doblar el evento de que mi mama esta enferma.

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19:08:22 [renatta] Mi mejor momento fue el dìa sàbado durante la reuniòn, fue todo en conjunto el ambiente, los ejercicios que se realizaron y todo me auxilio para estar conmigo misma.

19:08:32 [juanpablo] buenas tardes a todos

19:08:40 [vero] Otro momento fue en la reunión después de hacer: la postura incómoda y el April Fools, wow la Presencia estuvo durante algunas horas muy presente

19:08:54 [alejandra] vero> Excelente

19:09:22 [alejandra] mariana> Buenas esfuerzos

19:09:44 [renatta] Otro momento fue el dìa viernes en el que se me notifico que no se me renovarìa contrato y que estaba fuera, evento que desencadenò en la reuniòn del sabado que les comparto.

19:09:47 [alejandra] renatta> Maravilloso

19:10:31 [alejandra] vero> oh!!! que extraordinario!

19:10:54 [juanpablo] mi mejor momento fue hoy al poder aprobechar cualquier momento para trabajar.

19:11:57 [alejandra] juanpablo> Que maravilla

19:13:17 [james] COMENTARIOS O PREGUNTAS DEL CAPITULO FA DE SECRETOS COSMICOS O ALGUN OTRO COMENTARIO DE SU TRABAJO EN SU SER. OTRA COSA?

19:15:35 [mariana] que debo de entender por dualidad en la octava ,a que se refiere ?

19:15:40 [vero] En la pág. 52, en la pregunta 1., a qué vibración de entrada se refiere?

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19:17:59 [james] Hay 2 puntos de existencia en una octava Mi y Sol. Ellos crean 2 oscilaciones que estan separadas pero que se complementan Protones y electrones, Masculino y femenino, esposo y esposa, fisico y espiritual….

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19:18:36 [renatta] Cuando se crean las otras octavas en los 4 puntos fundamentales significa que FA cambia de una octava a otra, es decir en la 1a. es fuerza de negaciòn y en la 2a. se convierte en fuerza activa??

19:18:51 [james] mariana> eso es parte de la ley de 7 y que son parte en el universo.

19:19:59 [james] chris> buenas tardes amiga!

19:21:00 [vero] En la pag 56 dice en el penúltimo párrafo: "… podríamos encontrar por lo tanto, en las nueve octavas de la escala -2, seis cosas." Cuáles son estas 6?

19:21:08 [chris] Hola Buenas Tardes Amigos!!

19:21:39 [james] vero> las posibilidades para cada vibracion en la escala 1 depende si esta en la octava de abajo, enmedio, o la octava de arriba. Asi que en la escala 1 es importante no solamente saber la nota si no cual de las 3 octavas internas son parte.

19:22:06 [chris] comparto mi mejor momento que fue el sábado al estar traduciendo un escrito que pronto compartiré con ustedes, observé que el nivel de atención que puse en ese momento a lo que traducía me desperto y se mantuvo la presencia mucho tiempo

19:22:48 [mariana] y la dualidad se va a encontrar siempre en MI Y SOL?

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19:24:15 [james] renatta> Hay 2 difentes modelos cuando estamos mirando a las fuerzas de negacion, cuando estamos mirando las octavas internas las FA y La son fuerzas de afirmacion..

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19:24:55 [james] renatta> Lo siento! cuando estamos mirando las octavas externas.

19:25:47 [chris] El conocer la estructura del ADN, como me puede ayudar para poder hacer algo interno, existe alguna posibilidad de cambiar el ADN para nuestro benificio interno y/o evolución?

19:26:13 [james] renatta> … cuando estamos mirando el modelo de octavas internas solamente estamos mirando nuestra propia octava en las octavas que se estan creando en ellas. En este modelo el FA en la escala 0 es un Fa en escala 1, 2, 3.. etc.

19:26:28 [james] chris>

19:26:56 [vero] En la pag 58 en el segundo párrafo dice: "… sus "rangos de existencia" se traslapan, sus "oscilaciones" no." Me podrías abundar un poco en esto… gracias

19:27:21 [james] mariana> Si!! Ellos son solamente los 2 DOs oscilalantes y por esa razon son los puntos de existencia en una octava.

19:30:20 [renatta] James> Estas oscilaciones existentes se encuentran en Mi-Fa y en Si-Do, còmo puedo entender estas oscilaciones que al final se complementan representado en mi misma?

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19:30:45 [james] chris> El ADN es una formula para tu cuerpo fisico. Nuestro trabajo en nosotros mismos es desarrollar nuestro ser, para desarrollar la parte espiritual de nosotros la cual es mas similar para desarrollar el ADN de nuestro cuerpo Astral. Si tu trabajas en ti mismo ahora y cambiara su ser en el futur

19:32:29 [renatta] James> A q’ se refieren cuando se habla de las oscilaciones menores y de las oscilaciones mayores?.

19:32:42 [james] vero> Los rangos de ecistencia de un DO van de arriba para el Do superior y de abajo para el de DO de abajo…

19:33:07 [vero] Se dice que la oscilación mayor indica matemáticamente la presencia de un principio de negación… no me queda claro

19:33:44 [james] vero> Porque Mi y Sol’s estan en relacion tu puedes ver en la pag. 54 como los rangos de existencia se traslapan…

19:34:49 [james] vero> de cualquier manera Los Do’s en Mi y Sol niegan por medio de FA en su octava interna. pag. 59.

19:37:45 [james] renatta> referente a tu primera pregunta en la escala 0 no hay Oscilaciones entre Mi-Fa y Ti-Do. ver pag. 136 es por esta razon que tenemos que hacer esfuerzos en Mi y en Si para pasar al Fa y al Do y poder continuar nuestra octava.

19:39:24 [james] renatta> Se le fueran dados esos nombres por muchas razones, la oscilacion Major es la unica que se siente en la escala 0, es 2 veces mas grande que la oscilacion menor y esta en el centro de la octava…

19:40:24 [james] renatta> …se le dieron estas etiquetas para que pudieramos distinguir entre estas dos.

19:40:44 [vero] Cómo puedo aplicar este conocimiento de las oscilaciones a mi vida, ya que se dice que toda la vida sigue este modelo de 2/3 y 1/3?

19:41:40 [vero] Precisando, no es mi vida, es en mi trabajo interno

19:43:29 [renatta] Recuerdo en una platica en vallarta que Russell decìa q’ Pamela era su oscilaciòn menor y que deberiamos aprender a ser la oscilaciòn menor y el hombre la mayor ¿a que se referìa con esto?.

19:44:29 [renatta] James> Te pregunto lo anterior pues creo estoy confundida con las oscilaciones en las octavas y con la idea dada por Russ ¿puedes auxiliarme?.

19:44:51 [james] vero> la primera razon es que la parte de abajo de la oscilacion mayor es en FA la cual es 1/3 entonces esta parte de 1/3 se dobla a 2/3 lo cual nos muestra el LA. Esta LA es tambien un FA en la escala 1 asi que la oscilacion Mayor nos muestra la fuerza de negacion en FA y LA.

19:47:26 [renatta] James> En el chat del lunes pasado le respondìas a un estudiante que el intervalo Mi-Fa està diseñado para usar cualquier cosa que esta disponible para que le permita a la 8va. ascender ¿a que te refieres con usar cualquier cosa?.

19:49:04 [james] vero> En el modelo de la oscilacion Mayor, la oscilacion menor soporta a la oscilacion mayor y le permite manifestarse en su potencial. Asi que en general cuando la mujer esta soportando a su hombre el llega a ser mas un hombre. Pero si ella no soporta a el, el no llega a ser el hombre que deberia.

19:49:40 [james] vero> renatta… de ser.

19:52:20 [james] vero> Independientemente de una relacion tenemos que tener ambas oscilaciones en nosotros. para que podamos ver los momentos en que necesitamos ser soportados, ambos lados internamente y externamente. y tambien hay momentos en que necesitamos fuerza interior y exterior…

19:52:42 [renatta] James> Comprendo ahora con tu respuesta que el concepto soportar es de ser base de algo màs… no como soportar de aguantar o de importancia personal en el sentido de sentirse mejor que el otro porque te puedo soportar, es como la idea que refiere la 2a. linea de trabajo debemos soportarnos los …

19:52:57 [vero] En la pag 66 en el penúltimo párrafo dice: "… Porque sólo una clara comrpensión de todo lo que ellas implican puede hacer posible para nosotros –como individuos– liberarnos a nosotros mismos de nosotros mismos…"

19:53:24 [renatta] …unos a los otros y esto ahora con lo que respondes lo comprendo en el sentido de sustentarnos, gracias James.

19:53:33 [vero] Cómo empezar a entender esta idea, para poderla comprender y llevarla a cabo?

19:53:47 [james] vero> en esta forma podemos tener las 2 oscilaciones en nosotros mismo. este modelo tambien nos muestra el balance entre el Ser (oscilacion menor) Conocimiento (oscilacion Mayor).

19:56:12 [james] renatta> Por ejemplo una semilla necesita agua. Puede usar cualquier agua que este cerca, lluvia, un rio, regarla etc. Sin el agua la semilla no puede crecer y continuar con su octava.

19:56:18 [vero] Creo que la respuesta esta en trabajar conmigo misma, y llevar a cabo todas las sugerencias que me da mi maestro en THE DOG….

19:56:31 [renatta] En la idea de ser 8,10,12 còmo puedo trabajar con mis 2 oscilaciones??.

19:57:16 [james] renatta> Si maravillosa comprension.

19:57:47 [renatta] last/ 500

20:00:00 [james] vero> Si, tambien una vez que podemos vez las oscilacion de nuestra vida por medio de mirar nuestros patrones, por medio de la comprension de las oscilaciones podemos comprender de que estamos atrapados en nuestros patrones por las fuerzas de negacion…

20:00:23 [juanpablo] gracias a todos buenas noches

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20:00:47 [james] vero> asi que para poder romper nuestros patrones significa que tenemos que pasar las fuerzas de negacion que nos mantienen en nuestras oscilaciones.

20:01:10 [james] vero> Esto es muy particular en nuestra relaciones.

20:01:53 [james] LA PROXIMA SEMANA ALEJANDRA IRA A PTO VALLARTA POR LO QUE NO NOS SERA POSIBLE ESTAR EN ESTE CHAT!!

20:02:53 [vero] Entonces nos vemos el siguiente lunes 17 de abril, un día después del domingo de Pascua?

20:03:23 [vero] Que disfrute enormemente estar en el paraíso…

20:03:39 [vero] Alex, este sábado si hay chat con Russ?

20:03:57 [james] renatta> Si estas trabajando en ti misma en las 2 oscilaciones entonces un lugar de comenzar es dando un valor equivalente para la parte del ser en tu trabajo y la parte de conomiento .

20:04:29 [alejandra] si vero!!

20:04:45 [vero] james> te refieres a relaciones afectivas?

20:05:20 [james] Mi correo es [email protected]

20:05:30 [renatta] Ok. entonces nos vemos el pròximo sàbado, que disfruten sus dìas en el maravilloso puerto.

20:06:09 [vero] Y continuaremos con este capítulo o con algún tema en especial?james

20:07:05 [james] vero> Si nos vemos el dia 17 de Abril, la tarea sera el capitulo Sol y tambien mirar en los patrones en las oscilaciones en tu vida.

20:08:09 [vero] Excelente, nos vemos el sábado en el chat con Russ… que tengan una maravillosa semana consigo mismos

20:08:23 [james] vero> Si es tu relacion afectiva con todos. En general cada relacion es una oscilacion.

20:09:11 [james] vero> Con las fuerzas de negacion de cada persona nos mantine en el mismo lugar.

20:09:25 [renatta] Hasta pronto entonces, un fuerte abrazo!!!!!!!.

20:09:43 [vero] Gracias, James… estaré en observación estas dos semanas para ver qué descubro, para seguir avanzando

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20:10:26 [james] vero> Si vero, gracias a todos por su presencia.

20:11:25 [vero] Nos vemos el sábado, gracias nuevamente por todo¡¡¡