Americo/Mexico

[MigueAngel] Hola compadre…

[thedog] Hola Muchacos

[MigueAngel] Hola Maestro

[MigueAngel] Hola Gonzalo y Joaquìn.

[thedog] BEST MOMENTS

[[MigueAngel] Well my best moment was on Thurday listening Mariane commenting her quitting from Ramtha and commiting to The Dog and her realizations after talking with Doug and her high motivations.

[gon] Estoy muy satisfecho de todo. las palabras no bastan para espresar que presivo ni cuanto valoro lo que cada momento persivo.

[MigueAngel] Mi mejor momento fue el Jueves escuchando a Marian su renuncia a Ramtha y su entrega a the Dog.

[jorge] Buenas tardes a todos.Saludos a Russell, Miguel Angel , y todos.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo says he is really satisfied with the way he is perceiving now.

[celina] hola a todos desde atoto.

[MigueAngel] Hola Jorge, bienvenido

[MigueAngel] Yo estoy en Guadalajara y Carmen Celina en Atotonilco, Jalisco.

[thedog] gon> You are my Hero

[gon] Agradesco a todo y a todos porque se que no hay nada de lo cual no tenga un veneficio o haya tenido alguno en el pasado. De suerte que gracias a todos.

[MigueAngel] Russ a Gonzalo: eres mi hèroe.

[jorge] Mis mejores momentos fueron la semana que pase en vallarta.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo thanks all of us for all the benefits he has received

[MigueAngel] Jorges best were while in Vallarta.

[MigueAngel] Otro mejor momento lo vivì ayer, estudiando el enneagrama de lo que podrìa ser una relaciòn de pareja consciente… guauuu… increìbles veintes me cayeron.

[jorge] Sobre todo el dia que platicamos en el curto donde se hospedaba.

[MigueAngel] Another best moment was yesterday while studying the enneagram of a conscious love relationship and guauuu. incredible insights came.

[thedog] Part of me has not returned to Texas but lingers there with you. Thanks again to everyone for your efforts.

[MigueAngel] Jorges best was talking to you Russ at your room

[enrique] hola a todos

[jorge] hola.

[MigueAngel] Russell dice: Parte de mi no ha regresado a Tejas sino que sigue unida a ustedes. Gracias otra vez a todos por sus esfuerzos

[MigueAngel] Bienvenidos Enrique, y todos. Escriban sus mejores momentos actuales y sus peores y como los trabajaron.

[celina] mi mejor momento fue hoy hablando con mama de corazon a corazon fue grade para mi sentir su compresion.

[gon] Como tengo por un lado el desarrollo de las octavas de las cuales nos sugeristes como tarea y por el otro aun no puedo expresarme en Ingles correctamente. Le podria mandar este material a Alejandra para que (si puede hacerme el favor) me lo tradujera y te lo entregara?

[thedog] celina> How are the copies of the video tapes coming? I’ll bet you have been busy.

[enrique] uno de mis mejores momentos fuè platicar con Rusell.Ademàs al llegar a mexico fuè como una segunda luna de miel

[celina] Hola Russel! las envie con Jim y Shirley, van en camino. Salieron bien fue muy maravilloso volver a vivir todo al estar haciendo las copias. Love1

[enrique] Mi peor momento fuè el reactivar el trabajo en la vida, teniendo dificultades n algunas entregas de producto. lo trabajè razonamiento activo y la vara de dos puntas.

[MigueAngel] Celina says: my best moment was today talking with my mom heart to heart. It was great to feel her understanding.

[jorge] Mi peor momento fue el dia que regresamos ,en el camion , fue muy molesto porque hacia frio y estaba el aire acondicionado y ademas la maquina se sentia incomodo de ir sentado in poder descansar bien.La manera en que lo trabaje fue con la idea de Gurdjieff si estas de parranda parrandea hasta el fi

[Verónica] Hola, buenas tardes. Mi mejor momento fue el estar en Vallarta, sobre todo el sábado en el desayuno viví un gran momento de centro magnético.

[azavala] HELLO, HELLO,

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo says: My I sen my understanding about the octaves to Alejandra for her to translate to you?

[carlosc] hola a todos

[juanpablo] buenas tardes a todos

[MigueAngel] Russ a Celina: ¿ya enviaste las copias creo que has estado ocupada?

[azavala] MIGUEL, TRADUZCO DEL INGLÉS, ¿SALE?

[jorge] incluyendo el franqueo.

[thedog] gon> Si.

[MigueAngel] Enrique said: My best was talking to you Russ and returning to Mexico is like anothe honey moon.

[MigueAngel] Celina says: They are on your way with Jim and It was lovely to review them and relive them.

[thedog] enrique> I am very honored. Thank you.

[thedog] celina> gracias

[MigueAngel] Enrique’s worst returning to life and dealing with dayly work and using the two ends of the stick and active reasoning.

[juanpablo] mi mejor momento fue en vallarta el poder conpartir con russ una hora y poder comentarle ciertas inquietudes que tenia

[MigueAngel] Jorges’ worst returning by bus to Mexico and using the saying of Gurdjieff if you buy something go the whole way… etc.

[thedog] bobo> Hello bobo. I do not recognize the name. Enlighten me.

[azavala] thedog> enrique.- ME HONRAS CON TU COMENTARIO.- GRACIAS

[carlosc] Mi mejor momento fue el jueves pasado cuando al estar con unos compañeros de trabajo pude darme cuenta de como es importante el trabajo en equipo y mejor cuando estoy presente se logra un estado emocional alto

[MigueAngel] Veronicas’s best in Vallarta at Saturday breakfast

[celina] thedog> You are very welcome..

[MigueAngel] Hola Juan Pablo y Carlos

[azavala] thedog> bobo.- HOLA BOBO. NO RECONOZCO TU NOMBRE.- ILUMINAME.

[MigueAngel] Juan pablo cambia el color de tu letra, no se ve.

[enrique] ¿es correcto integrar yoès en el ejercicio del Yo soy,es decir se fusionan si los invito e ese momento presencia?

[MigueAngel] Juan Pablo’s best talking privately to Russ.

[gon] Se dijo que lo que esta ( por decirlo asi ) fuera nos puede servir de despertador. Los yos, los sucesos y demas que no estan alineados cominezan a ser sentidos como despertadores. Es decir me identifico menos y los aprovecho.

[bobo] Russell, I am new here. We spoke by e-mail few times. I have been reading the book and wanted to see what to do next

[bobo] My name is Fariborz

[MigueAngel] Carlos Corral… best moment on Thursday with some fellow coworkers and realizing the importance of the teem work and knowing being high emotionally you get better results.

[azavala] bobo> RUSSELL, SOY NUEVO AQUI. HABLAMOS POR E-MAIL VARIAS VECES. HE ESTADO LEYENDO EL LIBRO Y QUIERO VER QUÉ ES LO QUE SIGUE.

[juanpablo] mi peor momento fue en la mañana que me iba para mexico no encontre mi boleto de regreso,claro que fue muy molesto,y lo trabaje con la vara de dos puntas,lo peor que me podia pasar era volver a comprar un boleto de avion de regreso(que eso fue lo que hice)lo mejor que podia pasar era encontrar

[MigueAngel] Enrique: is it correct to integrate “Is” in the I am exercise, meaning do they fuse if I invite them in that moment of presence?

[Verónica] Mi peor momento, fue el martes en la oficina. Me pidieron que me quedara a trabajar tiempo extraordinario. El Jefe me llamo y en un lapso de una hora me dijo que no era posible que me quedara a trabajar. Solo hice el escuchar activo y tercera respuesta. Me permitió platicar con él armónicamente.

[jorge] En una reunion en vallarta de ejercer el sentido comun , me podrias sugerir algun ejemplo como trabajarlo.

[MigueAngel] Gonzalo. I am taking advantage of the Is that come with external circumstances.

[juanpablo] el boleto en mi maleta ya en mexico(lo cual no susedio)pero con ese ejercicio juanpablo se calmo.

[thedog] bobo> Thank you. Welcome Fariborz. This is our America/Mexioc Chat. Tomorrow at 3PM is America/England. I just returned from 13 days in Mexico with the students, so most chat will be about the teaching we did there. But, feel free to ask questions.

[jorge] es decir como trabajar con sentido comun.

[MigueAngel] Juan Pablo’s worse was not finding his ticket back to Mexico and using that for working on himself and the two ends of the stick, he needed to pay again his ticket but with the work he cool down himself

[renatta] hola a todos mi mejor momento fue un dìa antes de mi partida a Vallarta, cerrè un pendiente con una persona y eso me hizo sentirme mas completa

[MigueAngel] Veronica’s worse at work being requested to work extra time and with the work being able to not accept and be cool

[thedog] enrique> Fusion may be a good way to describe it. “All forces in the same place”. Great!

[bobo] Russell, sorry did not realize that. I will join in tomorrow.

[azavala] thedog> bobo.- GRACIAS. BIENVENIDO FARIBORZ.- ESTE ES NUESTRO CHAT MEXICO-AMERICANO. MAÑANA A LAS 15:00 P.M. SERA EL…….´…

[jorge] como trabajar el sentido comun.

[MigueAngel] Jorge asks how to work with the usage of the Common Sense exercise.

[MigueAngel] Renattas’ best, erasing her blackboard in Vallarta.

[azavala] INGLÉS-AMERICANO. ACABO DE REGRESAR DE ESTAR 13 DIAS EN MEXICO CON LOS ESTUDIANTES, ASÍ QUE LA MAYORÍA DEL CHAT SERA ACERCA DE LA ENSEÑANZA QUE DIMOS ALLÁ. SIN EMBARGO, PUEDES HACER PREGUNTAS.

[thedog] bobo> You are welcome to stay, today

[azavala] thedog> enrique.- LA FUSION PUEDE SER UNA BUENA MANERA DE DESCRIBIRLO. “TODAS LAS FUERZAS EN EL MISMO LUGAR”. GRANDIOSO.

[thedog] renatta> Bravo Renatta

[MigueAngel] Yolanda> ¿y tu Yolanda? existes o no existes?

[carlosc] Mi peor momento fue el darme cuenta tambien de como hay yoes que son tendenciosos que no desean el trabajo y toman el pretexto de no trabajar por situaciones de menor importancia

[azavala] bobo> thedog.- RUSSELL, LO SIENTO, NO SABÍA ESO. ME REUNO MAÑANA.

[azavala] thedog> bobo.- ERES BIENVENIDO, PUEDES QUEDARTE HOY.

[MigueAngel] Carlos worse: realizing there are another Is with negative tendencies against the work and with pretexts for not working at any petty situation.

[celina] Todo lo vivido permeado por las palabras de Russel en sus enseñanzas durante los dias pasados ha sido un retomar el Trabajo con conciencia acrecentada.Despues del A,Fool he estado en un mayor estado de conciencia Gracias Russ.!! es otro renacimiento..

[thedog] Who has drawn a few Enneagrams since our meetings and/or who has a question?

[MigueAngel] Amigos, si se me olvida traducir algo… por favor discùlpenme y `háganmelo saber. Gracias.

[juanpablo] ¿si no puedo trasformar una emocion negativa,porque todavia no llego a ese nivel,como le hago para no tragarmela?¿solo la obserbo?¿y despues?

[renatta] el peor: el dìa miercoles, no sè si fue peor, lo que puedo compartirles es que ayudò mucho a Renatta, al darse cuenta de que el trabajo debe practicarse.

[azavala] thedog> QUÍÉN HA DIBUJADO ALGUNOS ENEAGRAMAS DESDE NUESTRA REUNIÓN Y/O QUIEN TIENE PREGUNTAS?

[bobo] Ok thanks Russell. I have been reading the book. I get most of the math. I also joined in this chat when you were away at a wedding. The person from England recommended that I read Psyxhology of man’s possible evolution which I have done. What might be the next step?

[MigueAngel] Celina: Everything lived and permeated with Russell words and his teachings during this past days has been a retaking of the Work with increased conscience. After my A.F. I have been in a greater state of conscience. Thanks Russ!! it has been another rebirthing.

[MigueAngel] Juan pablo: if I don’t know how to transform a negative emotion because I don’t have yet that level, how do I do for not swallowing it? just observing it? and then?

[enrique] En las lineas 8,7,1 que van del centro emocional superior a los centros instintivo, motriz, emocional me prmiten darme cuenta que al usarlas me mantienen despierto, ¿tengo que estar màs despierto para darme cuenta del centro mental superior?

[jorge] No entendi realmente casi nada pero tratare de ponerme a trabajar en el grupo y asi poder comentar mis dudas de esto. Una clave que creo que perdi , fue el primer dia de la transmision de la enseñanza.

MigueAngel] Renatta’s worse moment was on Wednesday. It helped me to realize that the Work is necessary to be practiced.

[celina] Verónica> muy bien Vero, estoy en Atotonilco visitando a mi mama. Dale besos a Kaly. Te escribo la sem. Prox.

[azavala] bobo> thedog.- GRACIAS RUSS. HE ESTADO LEYENDO EL LIBRO. ENTIENDO LA MAYOR PARTE DE LAS MATEMATICAS. TAMBIÉN ME REUNÍ EN ESTE CHAT CUANDO ESTUVISTE EN LA BODA. LA PERSONA DE INGLATERRA ME RECOMENDÓ QUE LEYERA LA “PSICOLOGÍA DE LA POSIBLE EVOLUCIÓN DEL HOMBRE”, LA CUAL YA HICE. ¿CUÁL PUEDE SER EL…

[azavala] SIGUIENTE PASO?

[thedog] bobo> What other Gurdjieff/Ouspensky works have you read?

[jorge] Porque llegue tarde, me refiero al eneagrama de la cocina.

[MigueAngel] Enrique: in the lines 8, 7 and 1 that go from the higher emotional to the instinctive, moving and emotional, they allow me to realise that using them they keep me awake. Do I need to be more awaken to realize the higher mental?

[bobo] A long while ago, I read the fourth way and remarkabale men

[MigueAngel] jorge> No entendiste casi nada de què?

[jorge] de el eneagrama.

[Yolanda] Hola a todos. Mi mejor momento fue en Vallarta , cuando comprendí un poco más cómo debo trabajar conmigo misma. Y el peor momento fue cuando le mentí a mi mamá sobre el viaje a Vallarta, y luego hice la retroalimentación superior y supe que no era necesario haber mentido y que el hacerlo fue pro

[MigueAngel] jorge> Eso se lo tienes que preguntar a los demas estudiates para ver si lo entendieron y que te compartan. Cuando yo vaya a Mexico lo practicaremos ma`s

[thedog] juanpablo> Four steps. 1 try not to express them (that will weaken some) 2 try not to identify with them. 3 create a different attitude to them when they are not present, so you can diminish them when they come. 4 self-remember.

[gon] Mi forma es tratar de esplicar al gun evento dese el desaroyo de un enagrma.Son muchas palabras para inviarlas ahora Alfonso. Te las puedo enviar por E-mail ?

[azavala] thedog> bobo.- ¿QUÉ OTROS TRABAJOS DE GURDJIEFF Y OUSPENSKY HAS LEIDO?

[juanpablo] gracias russ

[celina] Para todos los de la escuela de Mexico. Pronto estaré enviandoles copias del video de las conferencias y de los cassettes con las preguntas durante los desayunos, así podran repasar cada que lo dessen o necesiten..

[MigueAngel] Yolandas’ best: in Vallarta, understanding a little bit more on how to work on myself. And the worse was lying to my mom about the trip to Vallarta and doing higher feedback I realized it was not necesarry to lie.

[renatta] comparto el sentir de C:Celina despuès de mi 2o. nacimiento el 2 de junio siento y he comprobado que el trabajo se ha reforzado

[Yolanda] ducto de la consideración interna, y eso me sirvió para saber porque me sentìa mal.

[thedog] bobo> great. Those would be good to revisit. Then, if it your aim to awaken, there is a way. That is what we do here.

[jorge] Te lo agradecere mucho Carmen celina para repasar la enseñanza.

[azavala] thedog> MigueAngel.- CUATRO PASO.- 1 TRATAR DE NO EXPRESARLAS (ESO DEBILITARÁ ALGUNAS).- 2.- TRATAR DE DE IDENTIFICARSE CON ELLAS 3.- CREAR UNA ACTITUD DIFERENTE HACIA ELLAS CUANDO NO ESTEN PRESENTES, ASÍ PUEDES DISMINUIRLAS CUANDO VENGAN.- 4.- RECORDARTE A TI MISMO.

[MigueAngel] Renatta shares that her second A.F. in Vallarta also was a re´birthing.

[MigueAngel] Yolanda was feeling bad because of the lying to her mom about her trip to Vallarta.

[enrique] Quien me traduce lo e las 19.27 hrs.?

[azavala] thedog> bobo.- GRANDIOSO, ESO PUEDE SER BUENO PARA REVISAR. ENTONCES, SI TU DESEO ES DESPERTAR, HAY UNA MANERA. ESO ES LO QUE HACEMOS AQUÍ.

[MigueAngel] Enrique: La fusiòn puede ser una buena manera de describirlo. “Todas las fuerzas en el mismo lugar”. Grandioso!

[enrique] Gracias Miguel espero la otra

[Verónica] En el eneagrama de los centros: todo llega hasta LA, entre LA y SI se encuentra la octava desconocida, que es la octava del hombre. Tengo duda cómo llego de LA a SI, y de SI al DO final?

[thedog] Yolanda> I love it when the higher come in like that, with such certainty. Good Job.

[enrique] De las 19:34

[Verónica] Celina> Después me pongo en contacto contigo para lo de los videos, ya que es un material importante para todos en la Cd. de México, así como el video del Juego Consciente. De la misma manera los cassettes de los desayunos. El grupo de la Cd. de México te lo agradece.

[azavala] thedog> Yolanda.- AMO CUANDO EL SUPERIOR VIENE DE ESA MANERA, CON TANTA CERTIDUMBRE. BUEN TRABAJO

[MigueAngel] Veronica: In the Enneagram of centers: everything arrives up to LA, between LA and TI, we find the unknown octave or the man’s octave. I have the doubt about how do I arrive from LA to TI and from TI to DO final?

[juanpablo] lo que tratas de decirme es que cuando no tenga emociones negativas,trate de adelantarme a ellas y asi no llegen tan duro?ok,eso puede ser como impermeabilizarme , y ya lo e echo y cuando lo hago me funciona,pero cuando es derrepente,¿solo trato de recordarme?

[thedog] enrique> With Re, Mi, and Fa kept in view, it will naturally come that Higher Mental Center will make itself known to the Higher Emotional center.

[enrique] Ok.Miguel gracias

[renatta] se comentò en Vallarta que hay que ocupar los lugares vacios, eso ocurre porque me duermo, aquì es donde puedo reforzar la linea que va de SI -SOL

[thedog] Verónica> Arrive to LA and stay there! The octave of man is the octave between LA-TI, there we have to come to that octaves La, to awaken Steward. Then we get into that octaves La-Ti interval, where reason will begin.

[MigueAngel] Juan Pablo is asking agagin: do you try to tell me that when I have negative emotions… I need to try to be ahead them and in that way they don’t come that hard? OK that is like insulating and I have done that and works but what happens when it is suddenly that coming of an emotion: selfremember?

[Yolanda] ¿ Para empezar el eneagrama, debo primero identificar las tres fuerzas, y aquí es donde entra el crear una funciòn, me pueden explicar un poco màs cómo hacerlo, por favor ?

[azavala] thedog> enrique.- CON RE, MI Y FA TOMADOS EN VISTA, VENDRA ESE CENTRO MENTAL SUPERIOR EL CUAL POR SI MISMO HARA CONOCIDO AL CENTRO EMOCIONAL SUPERIOR.

[celina] Sí se los entregaré a Miguel Angel,para que se los envíe,ya hablamos sobre ‘esto en la sesión del jueves pasado.Verónica

[MigueAngel] Renatta: it was commented in Vallarta that we need to ocupy the empty spaces and that happens because I fall asleep and here is where I can re-strenghten the line that goes from Ti to So?

[MigueAngel] Yolanda: to start the Enneagram do I need to indentify first the three forces? and here ir where the creating a function enters? can you explain a little bit more how to do this please?

[enrique] ¿luego entoncesla confianza (linea 4) a traves de la experiencia (linea 3) van “mezclados losdos centros superiores?

[azavala] thedog> Verónica.- LLEGA A LA Y PERMANECE AHÍ!!! LA OCTAVA DEL HOMBRE ES LA OCTAVA ENTRE LA-SI, ALLÍ TENEMOS QUE LLEGAR A ESAS OCTAVAS LA, PARA DESPERTAR AL MAYORDOMO. ENTONCES ENTRAMOS EN LAS OCTAVAS DEL INTERVALO LA-SI, DONDE LA RAZÓN COMENZARÁ.

[thedog] juanpablo> Yes. There are different catagories of negative emotions and a way to combat each. Easy–don’t express. Everyday–don’t idnetify. Difficult but not often–create right attitude before they come. Rare and very difficult–remember yourself.

[MigueAngel] Enrique: then in the line 4 (confidence) through experience (line 3) are mixed or combined the two higher centers?

[juanpablo] gracias

[celina] Tengo el listado de nombres a la derecha te refieres a esos? ..M. Angel?

[thedog] Renatta > Strenghten the line from Mi to Ti. If you keep the destination in view, a force will begin in you to attain it.

[azavala] thedog> juanpablo.- SI. HAY DIFERENTES CATEGORIAS DE EMOCIONES NEGATIVAS Y UNA MANERA DE COMBATIR CADA UNA. FACIL–NO EXPRESARLAS. TODOS LOS DÍAS–NO IDENTIFICARSE. DIFICIL PERO NO FRECUENTE–CREAR LA ACTITUD CORRECTA ANTES DE QUE VENGAN. RARO Y MUY DIFÍCIL–RECORDARTE A SÍ MISMO

[renatta] Les comparto que con Atkins llegue a LA-SOL, desde el lunes comencè de nuevo y empecè el trabajo de transformaciòn.

[azavala] thedog> RENATTA.- FORTALECE LA LINEA DE MI A SI. SI MANTIENES EL DESTINO A LA VISTA, UNA FUERZA EMPEZARÁ EN TI PARA ALCANZARLO.

[thedog] Yolanda> Identify a problem. La-Fa. Look to what you can create or what has already been created, Fa-La, to overcome it. That will show you the function.

[MigueAngel] Renatta is sharing that she just started the So-La with the Atkins diet this Monday.!!!

[renatta] tienes razòn Miguel es SOL-LA, gracias,. eso quise decir

[celina] Besos a todos y Adios tengo un compromiso familiar .Love Russell Bye, Im with my mom and sister brothers big Family….

[azavala] thedog> Yolanda.- IDENTIFICA UN PROBLEMA. LA-FA. MIRA LO QUE PUEDES CREAR O LO QUE YA HA SIDO CREADO, FA-LA, PARA LLEGAR A ESTO. TAL TE MOSTRARA LA FUNCION.

[MigueAngel] joaquin> El lunes te toca el Chat… yo voy a estar probablemente manejando de regreso a Vallarta, de Guadalajara.

[thedog] GONG GONG Time for our chat has expired. Thanks for participating. It is great to have a face and smile to most of the participants. Love you all. See you next week.

[enrique] Gracis The dog

[joaquin] okidoki amigo/TO MigueAngel okidoki amigo

[juanpablo] un abrazo a todos,buenas tardes

[Verónica] I love you, Master.

[MigueAngel] Saludos besos y abrazos a todos desde Guadalajara. Estoy con mi hija Diana Hatziri…

[renatta] gracias Russel y Pamela, un beso a todos

[azavala] thedog> GONG GONG. TIEMPO PARA QUE NUESTRO CHAT TERMINE. GRACIAS POR SU PARTICIPACION. ES GRANDIOSO TENER UNA CARA Y SONREIR A LA MAYORÍA DE LOS PARTICIPANTES. LOS AMO A TODOS. LOS VEO LA PROXIMA SEMANA.

[Verónica] Gracias a MIguel Ángel y a Alfonso por su compartir en la traducción

[joaquin] besos a todos

[MigueAngel] Joaquìn conducirà el Chat del Lunes… a las 6

[enrique] Gracias Miguel saludos

[MigueAngel] espero que todos participen.

[Verónica] Miguel> saludos a tus hijas y a Berthina

[enrique] Saludos Joaquin

[MigueAngel] carlosc> Espero mas reportes de ti ahijado.

[Verónica] el lunes empezaran a participar los nuevos

[jorge] GRACIAS A TODOS .

[MigueAngel] Verónica> Perfecto.

[Verónica] El proximo sábado iniciamos con grupo de principiantes.

[MigueAngel] azavala> Gracias hermano… sin ti esto serìa CAOs

[azavala] THANKS BIG DOG.- !!!!

[enrique] k gracias atodos

[jorge] BAY THE DOG.

[MigueAngel] Bye buena noches. Amor a todos.

[thedog] DOG GONE

[azavala] BUENAS NOCHES HERMANOS.- SEAN MUY FELICES!!!! NADA LO IMPIDE!!!!

[Verónica] Buenas noches a todos.

[carlosc] A todos muchas gracias por compartir, saludos pa te llamo el lunes, gracias padrino en breve me reportare contigo bye

[Verónica] Saludos Pancho, nos vemos el lunes en el chat a las 6 pm, te llevaras una grata sorpresa

[Yolanda] Hasta pronto. Bay

America/England

[thedog] Best Moments

[stevew] BM: Kind of an odd one – finding that there is no part of me that can not leave the vicinity of the school, should my employment take me elsewhere.

[thedog] stevew> Freedom is a whole stick.

[stevew] thedog> Previously, parts had “wriggled” at the idea that I might not be able to attend the weekly sessions. Now they quiet. They know what they need to know.

[thedog] stevew> It is a very good thing to be of all attachments outside of ourselves. Who knows, you may be transferred to Sanger.

[thedog] free

[Tony] B.M. Playing a Diatonic and then Even 7ths on a tone generator and seeing that I resonate with the diatonic version

[stevew] thedog> The company’s headquarters is at Plano, just down the road.

[thedog] The last attachment to escape … is gravity.

[Sarah] BM-Questioning and realising my aim-to be able to maintain emptiness-or perfect balance withour allowing anything to deviate me.

[Sarah] ……..and therefore realising that we do being-and be doing

[thedog] Tony> Fantastic experiment. Where do you get a tone generator? I would like to reproduce your experiment … and others, i.e., the sound of the 19 octaves being created.

[Sarah] ………..to ask a question-we have already arrived at the

[Sarah] answer (oops)

[thedog] Sarah> Great stuff Sarah. Keep becoming it.

[thedog] stevew> Plano, Texas!! That would be a pip. Is such a thing likley or probable or only possible?

[stevew] Not even likely, as things stand, but one never knows.

[thedog] stevew> Whew, my heart rate can return to normal. But it was an exciting thought.

[Sarah] BM-Standing at the bottom of a friends garden-looking over the fence at the open fileds. Warm breeze stroking my face and fluttering my light clothing-sun shining hot on my face-…I closed my eyes and was at the dog. I heard John singing ‘k Sara Sara-whatever shall be shall be-

[thedog] Tony> is that a download of some sorts. or something you do there?

[jperrott] I’m on and old, slow notebook; don’t expect much ;-((

[mauricio] hello everybody from Mexico City!!

[Tony] thedog> Yes, there are lots of other things that you can download like oscilliscopes etc.

[Sarah] …………..the future IS OURS TO C………’ and then Geoffreys words-‘close ur eyes-what do u sense?’I sense the breeze on my face’. ‘Then when you go back to England-when ever you sruggle-close your eyes-and remember this now.-

[scrivs] John apologises for his ( non?0 appearance , but the pc is playing up.

[Sarah] Because you are the rock and all else is the breeze’

[jperrott] Can’t see any prior messages!

[thedog] mauricio> Welcome Double or Nothing (although we can’t talk about that in this forum) Mauricio from Mexico City, who joined us in Vallarta.

[scrivs] Tony> The gadgets are great news.

[mauricio] thank you

[Sarah] ……….and seeing Russ wave one hand and the other alternately like some scales-saying’Sarah-when will you choose-life or the work-life or the work?’

[Sarah] I stood in the garden and smiled warmly inside and out in p[raise of this marvellous organisatiomn and my supremem gratitude that I have the opportunity to understand it.

[mauricio] my best moment was said goobye my brother when i leaved him at the airport

[wooten] Greetings all. sorry about your gadget Mr. P. jonny

[mauricio] my worst moment was had bad thoughts about my brother, and it increased identification in my whole day

[Sarah] …and so many thanks for the angels that have lit my way. Thankyou. I have only mentioned a few-but there isnt one person that hasnt helped me in my endeavours.

[wooten] One of my best was observing Nancy make effort not being captured by the events of her father’s recent illness.

[Sarah] jperrott> Hello Master 😀

[thedog] mauricio> Think of having a triple, worse brother … then he will only provoke (cause) a smile.

[jperrott] O.K. I’m out of here; too great a problem to solve on the fly. Too great problem to solve on the fly! ;-(

[stevew] mauricio> Think, too, about how troubled your brother must be to behave so … and have compassion for him.

[mauricio] thank you Steve.

[Tony] I once went into a Hi-Fi shop and tried out a radio that blasted the sound of an opera singers voice at me and I was in a high state for about half an hour afterwards

[thedog] Mauricio says>i am memorizing your book, i am trying at first page abouy the obligolnian efforts.

[thedog] Any Questions … Observations … Massive Attempts … etc.?

[mauricio] yesterday i achived 45 attempts to raise 10

[thedog] Tony> External influences change our chemistry. Opera changes mine

[scrivs] BM; Doing an ‘I AM’ , which ‘it’ really did not want todo, and feeling real good at the finish.Not letting it win.And a touch of bliss.

[mauricio] when i breath and think” if i am in ten??” and then i felt emotion up down to my chest, end then felt good

[thedog] mauricio> And what did you do the second hour.

[mauricio] this 45 attempts during wholw day.. ups sorry, no capizzco about the “second hour” what does it means?

[mauricio] whole day

[scrivs] BM#2 : my memory work has been a pain to learn. ( But why ? ) This week did a piece nearly exactly.

[thedog] mauricio> Our only competition is ourselves. To be a superstar of awakendness you only have to remember 46 times tomorrow, 47 times the next day, 48 times the next, etc.

[Tony] thedog> If each note contains all other notes then why can’t each colour of the rainbow be split into new rainbows?

[mauricio] ah ok thanks Russ

[thedog] Tony> One note contains the path of seven octaves that meet there. There are six ways to take the wrong path. The path of one of those octaves will be diatonic and reveal the 3-3-2-4-4-5-3 rainbow pattern.

[wooten] Tony> helluva ? there Tony!

[wooten] thedog> helluva answer there Mr. Smith!

[scrivs] Tony> Each note is relative to some defing limits. Tht’s so for sound. But light has definite vibration numbers and can’t be shunted around . E.G withrespect to light’s effect upon say the heating of a piece of material.

[thedog] Tony> Each color of the rainbow is in the interval. And , yes, it can be split into seven colors, and again each, seven more … till there are some 7,000,000 colors.

[mauricio] why memorize is a key to reach succesfully the Higher Mental Centre?

[thedog] mauricio> It is development in the Emotional part of the Intellectual center (Q of Spades). We needed the three Q’s of Instinct, Moving and Emotional to create Higher Emotional center, thus we need the Q of spades to approach the Higher Mental center; consider its parts.

[mauricio] ahh ok i got it.

[Tony] thedog> It can be mixed to produce more colours, but Newton could not refract red light into a new spectrum containing all colours.

[thedog] bobo> Hello Fariborz. Where in the world do you live?

[bobo] I live in New York City

[thedog] Tony> Correct. Only red colors would be in red. From the most purplish red to the most orangest red. Is that right steve?

[stevew] thedog> Yes … only different reds.

[stevew] Tony> Think about inner octaves – they dont’ produce the whole spectrum of scale 0 vibrations in every inner octave but are limited to those vibrations corresponding to their relative position.

[thedog] bobo> How can I assist you in your journey? I believe you called earlier, while I was in Mexico, and asked about the 10 day journey, here in Sanger. I will let those attending here give you theri versions. GUYS

[stevew] Tony> Same for “stopinder” octaves.

[bobo] That is the question that i have wanted to ask. What is the journey like?

[stevew] bobo> Have you looked up at the stars and thought “Here am I, standing on this little ball of rock in a huge galaxy, with other sentient beings doing just as I am doing now”?

[bobo] i ma amazed every time I learn anything about the universe.

[bobo] What are we doing here and why we are here

[scrivs] bobo> We start , having arrived at The Dog, by learning a new language. We do some easy maths. We read some books. We do exercises and ask lots of questions. At the end we do a simple exercise that reveals new things. It’s a sort of holiday !! And great fun ! Enjoy, as they say.

[thedog] bobo> May I ask your age? License to say no!

[wooten] bobo> You may learn here in 10 days everything you can know about the universe without a telescope.

[bobo] And how is life different after that. Are you awaken? If I may ask.

[bobo] My age is 44. You can ask any question.

[stevew] bobo> Waking up is like seeing even the most “ordinary” parts of your normal life for the first time and glimpsing what it might mean to be really human.

[thedog] bobo> That is a great age to be asking Gurdjieff’s question: What is the purpose of life and particularly the aim and purpose of the life of man.

[bobo] I have been asking questions for a while. It is the answers that are hard to come by

[wooten] bobo> I have personally observed many people who have come here to know why they are here. Many have awakened, come in contact with a part of themselves they did not know existed. jonny

[stevew] bobo> You also get to learn that it’s not magic but science … and that it doesn’t come without effort.

[thedog] bobo> I am just an ordinary guy who asked, and got, an objective answer to that question. With right rules and Laws, the journey is not hard at all.

[wooten] stevew> very good steve! See there,bobo, that’s what I mean.

[bobo] I guess the teaching has to be done at Sanger?

[thedog] bobo> My advice. Find ten days and hope they are available…as my schedule is very full.

[stevew] bobo> Ask those “guys” in you who are worried whether you can spare the time, “What is really important in life, if not finding out what life is really all about?”

[wooten] bobo> If one wants to catch fish, is best to put bait in water with fish in it.

[bobo] sounds like that is what I should do. Thanks.

[thedog] OK all. Thanks for extending our chat for a bit. Love to you all. See you next week. THE DOG