S2/EP9: The Law of Seven and the Enneagram of the Justice System

Podcast Series 2, Episode 9: The Law of Seven and the Enneagram of the Justice System

Further talks on Gurdjieff’s Enneagram, with an example of the Enneagram of the Justice System, and how the Law of Seven had to have the greater change.

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Hi, I’m Gary

Welcome to a series of podcasts on achieving a peaceful and mindful state through mental awareness exercises, and further, gaining understanding into the laws of world creation and world maintenance, specifically as described within the works of George Gurdjieff and the Fourth Way

Each episode in this series focuses upon a particular element of this teaching and aims to bring simple understanding to what was frequently hidden in plain sight within the various subject areas of the Fourth Way.


We will now discuss the changing of the Law of Seven, as described by the fellow in Texas…

OK, to understand why it was necessary to make a greater change in the Law of Seven, we need to go back to the Enneagram. However, before we discuss the Enneagram’s mathematics, let’s do another event.

We will call this event, “The Enneagram of the Justice System.”

The Enneagram’s points are numbered 1 thru 9. Now let’s add the notes. At point 1 (where the point meets the circle) put RE, at point 2 put MI, at point 4 put FA, at point 5 put SO, at point 7 put LA, at point 8 put TI, and at point 9 put two DO’s (one to the left of the point and one to the right) as there are two DO’s there. The DO on the right starts the event and the DO on the left ends it. Also, put a 0 inside the circle (below the 9) as the circle actually goes from 0 to 9.

Now, we need to identify the three forces in the Enneagram of the Justice System (this one is a little easier than the Enneagram of Feeding the Community). We have Law enforcers, Law breakers, and Law makers. Or, in simple terms, Cops, Crooks, and Courts.

At points 0/9 are the Cops, the Function. The Function is always Cyclical, the cop equipment is taken out, used, and then put away. You can put Cops, Function, and Cyclical at points 0/9.

At point 3 are the Crooks, the Being. The crooks are going to be transformed irrevocably. You can put Crooks, Being, and Transformed at point 3.

At point 6 are the Courts, the Will. The Courts make the laws and are the Purpose behind the event – they existed before the other two. You can put Courts, Will, and Purpose at point 6.

We have identified the cops, the crooks, and the courts… as the function, being, and will. Remember, if we take any one of those away, there can be no justice system. No cops, and there is no one to enforce the laws. No crooks, and there is no one breaking the laws. No courts, and there is no one making the laws, just anarchy.

Now, we need to label the remaining points (the labels will be very similar to the labels we used on the Enneagram of Feeding the Community).

Point 1 is the Workers, the cops. The cops assemble, and the Sargent stands at the podium and gives out assignments, they call it the muster. Point 2 is the Tools, i.e., uniforms, badges, guns, cars, surveillance equipment, and undercover disguises, etc. Point 4 is the Investigation (this is where the crook is prepared). Point 5 is the Arrest… the point of most tension, “You are under arrest, your goose is cooked!” Point 7 is the Trial, the crook is taken to court, tried, and served to the jury. Point 8 is the Conviction, “We find the defendant guilty!”

The line of time goes clockwise around the circle. You can label the circle, “Time,” and put arrow marks between the points to show its direction. The event starts at 0 and ends at 9.

Memories of The Andy Griffith Show: At point 0, the police station is empty. Then, Sheriff Andy Taylor (Andy Griffith) arrives. Next, at point 1, Deputy Sheriff Barney Fife (Don Knotts) shows up as the Worker.

OK, fast forward to modern times. The cops show up at point 1 as the Workers, they attend the muster and get their assignments. “Officer Adams, you are going undercover on Oak street. Dress as a vagrant. Someone has been robbing vagrants in that area. If someone tries to rob you, make the arrest and slap on the cuffs. Officers Jones and Larsen, you will be on stakeout at 383 Elm: it’s the home of a suspected drug dealer,” etc.

Then, at point 2, they get out the Tools they need. At point 3, the Crook enters and commits a crime. At point 4, the crime is Investigated, hopefully revealing a suspect… who in turn is Investigated. At point 5, is the Arrest “Up against the wall!” “Don’t move!” “Hands behind your head!” At point 6, the crook is taken to Court, arraigned, and a Trial date is set. At point 7, the Trial is finished and handed over to the jury. The jury deliberates and, at point 8, reaches a verdict, “Guilty!” The crook is Convicted. Finally, at point 9, the crook is sentenced and taken away by the Higher Cops – the prison guards. OK. That is the event according to the flow of time.

Now we will look at the Line of Supervision.

The Line of Supervision is the line of the District Attorney. He is the liaison between the courts, the cops, and the crooks. He joins the Workers at RE and looks into the future at FA, to see what crimes need Investigating. Then, he informs the cops, back at MI, what Tools they need.

“We can’t get Al Capone on the Rico Act, or for murder, but maybe we can get him for tax evasion. Let’s get his bank records and look at his assets.”

While the cops are Investigating and gathering evidence, the District Attorney again looks into the future, to TI. He must be able to see a Conviction, or the Judge will not give him an arrest warrant. When enough evidence is gathered and the District Attorney is able to convince the Judge that his case is airtight, “We got him Judge, we have pictures, his fingerprints, DNA evidence, and we even have two eyewitnesses.”

If the judge agrees, he will sign a warrant for his Arrest.

Then, the warrant, the District Attorney, and the police, will all arrive at SO – the point of most tension – and make the Arrest, “You have the right to remain silent….”

The Crook is then arraigned.

Note: The Trial takes place between SO and LA (where the Line of Supervision is in lockstep with the line of time). During the Trial the District Attorney is there every day presenting his case. The District Attorney’s part of the Trial continues until the District Attorney says, “Your Honor, I rest my case.” He will rebut the Defense Attorney’s case and does get to make a closing argument; but, as far as his case is concerned, he is utterly finished. The District Attorney has taken the Enneagram up to LA. From there, he goes back over to RE and initiates the next investigation. The jury will decide the fate of the crook, not the District Attorney.

The highest note that the District Attorney can reach is LA. He can Try the case, but not Convict. The highest note that an Enneagram can attain is LA…. Embed that in your brain. You cannot make oranges; you can only make blossoms. The highest that an Enneagram can shove an event is up to LA! I repeat, the highest that an Enneagram can shove an event is up to LA!

With the aid of an Enneagram we were able to thoroughly define two separate events. The Enneagram of Feeding the Community, which was covered in a previous podcast, and the Enneagram of the Justice System. Using this knowledge, you should be able to place any event on an Enneagram.

OK, back to the changing of the Law of Seven.

Now, let’s explore the mathematics of the forces in an Enneagram.

The Enneagram is a symbol that shows us the correlation between the Law of Seven and the Law of Three. It is a circle numbered 1 through 9, though technically, it is a circle numbered 0 through 9, thus having ten digits – 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, and 9.

In the Enneagram, the circle, which we already discussed, was our Endlessness, God. Everything is contained within the circle, within God. It represented the oneness of the model… God is one.

Next, we found the Trinity, the triangle. God went from being one to becoming three.

Let’s begin with the math of the triangle. In the Enneagram, the triangle is at points 3, 6, and 9. Mathematically, if we take the oneness of God and divide it into three forces, then one force, or one-third of God would be the decimal .333. If we added .333 to itself, it would represent two-thirds of God and would add up to .666. And, if we added .333 to the .666, it would represent three-thirds of God and would add up to .999. Technically, it does not get to one, even though we know that a third, plus a third, plus a third, is one. However, three pure recurring decimals of .333, will never add up to one. They will add up to the pure recurring decimal of .999.

[It is interesting that the first number in the sequence (.333) is what?] – 3

[And the first number in the sequence (.666) is what?] – 6

[And the first number in the sequence (.999) is what?] – 9

Hey, on an Enneagram, those are the same numbers at the points of the triangle: 3, 6, and 9. Wow, the Law of Three is represented on the Enneagram as thirds, via the math of .333, .666, and .999. Thus, we have found the first change in creation… one became three, giving us the math of thirds.         

The next symbol on the Enneagram represents the Law of Seven. The oneness of God is divided by seven, which also produces a pure recurring decimal that goes .142857142857142857142857….

It never ends. It goes on forever. It just keeps repeating, and repeating, and repeating the sequence of .142857…

This decimal represents 1/7 of God.

Now, what if we added .142857 to itself? What would we get?


Which would be 2/7. And, if we added .142857 to that?


Which would be 3/7. Add .142857 to that:


Which would be 4/7. Add .142857 to that:


Which would be 5/7. Add .142857 to that:


Which would be 6/7. Add .142857 to that, and we would again be at .999999…

[Next, we notice that the first number in the sequence .142857 is – 1

[The first number in the sequence (.285714) is – 2

[The first number in the sequence (.428571) is – 4

[The first number in the sequence (.571428) is – 5

[The first number in the sequence (.714285) is – 7

[The first number in the sequence (.857142) is – 8

Hey, on an Enneagram, those are the same numbers at the points of the Line of Supervision: 1, 2, 4, 5, 7 and 8. Wow, the Law of Seven is represented on the Enneagram as sevenths, via the math of .142857…. Thus, we have found the second change in creation, or did we?

We will answer that question in a moment. For now, we will stick with the mathematics of sevenths. One became seven, giving us the math of sevenths. Which, as we said, has the first number in the decimals of 1/7, 2/7, 3/7, 4/7, 5/7, and 6/7 at the points of the Line of Supervision: there is the 1, and there is the 2, and the 4, and the 5, and the 7, and the 8.

Earlier, the numbers that were at the points 3, 6, and 9, referred to the Law of Three. Now we see that the numbers at the points 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, and 8, refer to the Law of Seven. Also notice, that in the decimal .142857 there is no three, six, or nine; and, in the decimals .333, .666, and .999 there are no ones, twos, fours, fives, sevens, or eights. Wow!

The Law of Three contributes three of those 9 numbers… the 3, 6, and 9; and the Law of Seven contributes six… 1, 2, 4, 5, 7, and 8. Put the two Great Laws together, and voilà, we get the Universe.

Next, we will look at the movement of the Line of Supervision. It goes around the Enneagram….

From 1 to – 4

Then, to – 2

Then, to – 8

Then, to – 5

And then to – 7

It then  goes back to 1, and repeats.

Holy Moley, that is the same darn number as the decimal .142857. The movement of the Line of Supervision follows the numbers in the decimal sequence. So, not only does the decimal identify the numbers on the Enneagram… but the flow of the Line of Supervision, itself, is the decimal sequence.

Also notice that if we start at point 2, we go 285714. If we start at point 4, we go 428571. If we start at point 5, we go 571428. If we start at point 7, we go 714285. And, if we start at point 8, we go 857142.

[Oh my God!]

The decimals of 1/7, 2/7, 3/7, 4/7, 5/7, and 6/7 show the order of movement that the Line of Supervision follows from each of those sevenths. That is, begin at any number that matches the first number of one of those decimals, then follow that decimal’s number-sequence around the Enneagram. Wow! The movement of the Line of Supervision enables the Line of Supervision to coordinate the Enneagram from any point.

All right, we have now explored the basic math of the Enneagram. However, as we said earlier, there is something strange about that math. The Enneagram is divided into thirds and sevenths. The Law of Three does depict thirds and reflects the first change in creation. That is, one became three, check.

But the Law of Seven depicts equal sevenths; and equal sevenths are not congruent with the diatonic structure of the Law of Seven. That is, even sevenths do not accurately portray the second change in creation. So, no check.

Let’s see if we can find out why.

In the Universe the Law of Three is at thirds and the Law of Seven is Diatonic. Thirds and Diatonic, not thirds and sevenths. Thirds and Diatonic.

That is how our Universe is at present: Thirds and Diatonic.

Notice that the Diatonic structure of the Law of Seven is in sync with the Law of Three, with the thirds. That is, the Law of Seven has notes at 3/3 (DO); 2/3 (LA); and 1/3 (FA)… and, the Law of Three has forces at 3/3, 2/3, and 1/3. The two great Laws have mutual points of contact.


From this we can surmise that at some point, the Law of Seven and the Law of Three may not have had mutual points of contact. If that is true, one or both of them would have to change in order to achieve mutual points of contact.

[That makes sense]

OK. We previously learned that the Law of Three has to be at thirds. It could not be any other way. Remember the magnets on strings, methane’s tetrahedral shape, and salt’s cubes? Well, if the Law of Three can only be at thirds, then it cannot be changed. So, if we wish to attain mutual points of contact between the Law of Three and the Law of Seven, we will have to make a greater change in the Law of Seven.

To conceptualize the change in the Law of Seven,  let’s go back to the mathematics of the Enneagram. On the Enneagram, the Law of Three was at thirds, and the Law of Seven was at sevenths. However, in the Universe, the Law of Seven it is not that way.  The Law of Seven is diatonic. Wow, I wonder if that means that the Law of Seven was at even sevenths before it became Diatonic.

We postulated that, before the Law of Three was separated into thirds, the three forces were all in the same place. But we have not postulated what the Law of Seven looked like before it became Diatonic. Perhaps that clue was right in front of us all along… hiding in the mathematics of the Enneagram. That is, the Enneagram may represent the transitional state of the Universe. The state between the first change of creation, the separation of the three forces into thirds, and the second change of creation, one that changed the even sevenths to Diatonic; and reveals what the Law of Seven looked like before it was changed.

To find out, let’s calculate an octave in even-sevenths; and place it alongside the separated forces at even thirds… and, see what we get.

When we do, we can see the dilemma.

An octave calculated in sevenths does not have mutual points of contact with all three of the separated forces. Only the top DO and the bottom DO contact Force 1.

In the Diatonic octave of 168, which was introduced earlier, the notes and forces align.  However, if we calculate the octave of 168 at even sevenths, they do not. The notes that are at even-sevenths are at 168, 192, 216, 240, 264, 288, 312, and 336, whereas the forces that are at even-thirds are at 168, 224, 280, and 336.

The intervals between the notes are 24; and, the distances between the forces are 56.

We can see, in Gurdjieff’s writings, that Gurdjieff suggests that our Endlessness achieved common alignment between the separated forces and the structure of the Law of Seven by altering two of the intervals in the Law of Seven, which then caused a third interval to become disharmonized. 

“These changes in the functioning of the sacred Heptaparaparshinokh consisted in this, that in three of its Stopinders HE altered the, what are called ‘subjective actions’ which had been until then in the Stopinders, in this respect, that in one HE lengthened the law conformable successiveness; shortened it in another; and in a third, disharmonized it.

“And, namely, with the purpose of providing the ‘requisite inherency’ for receiving, for its functioning, the automatic affluence of all forces which were near, HE lengthened the Stopinder between its third and fourth deflections. 

“This same Stopinder of the sacred Heptaparaparshinokh is just that one, which is still called the ‘mechano-coinciding-Mdnel-In.’”

The fellow in Texas read and re-read this Gurdjieff passage… trying to make sense of the ideas contained therein, which ultimately led him to uncreate the Universe. Here is how he describes it.

“It was in 1988 that the idea of uncreating the Universe first began to coagulate in the fabric of my thoughts.

“Before I explain the events that followed, perhaps it would be beneficial to back up for a moment. This facet of my quest, to unlock the secrets buried in Gurdjieff’s cosmology, actually began in 1980. I can still remember my first discovery. I was browsing through the dictionary and happened upon the Geologic Time Scale. In it, I saw octaves emerging, I assigned values to those octaves… and calculated my own scale of geologic time. To my surprise my calculations precisely matched more than half of the dictionary’s figures, and the rest were close enough to convince me that indeed, there must be, behind all Life, a definable and verifiable structure, the infrastructure of the Universe!

“From that moment on, I began to calculate octaves of every imaginable size, in hopes that I would recognize other patterns emerging. All the while, I kept reading and re-reading Gurdjieff’s writings in order to learn more about myself and to look for additional clues that might aid me in this quest. With perseverance, I was able to unscramble many other things, which of course, further stimulated my search.

“It seemed as if the complexities of Gurdjieff’s two Fundamental Laws were unfolding before my eyes. I should have been elated but, instead, I was filled with trepidation, for I knew that until I was able to understand their creation and actually verify how and why these two Laws acquired such a “specific structure,” that all of my efforts would remain speculation… a manipulation of facts and figures; that is, results without substance. Then, on that fate filled day in 1988, after eight years of searching; and, after I had calculated enough material to literally fill a small library, the idea finally hit me! If I could unravel the “diatonic” law of octaves… and, then, recreate it, I would have absolute confidence in the structure that was created… and also, unequivocally, substantiate all my previous findings.

“Days passed without sleep. I could not stop the momentum that had begun, nor did I want to. Finally, the vivifying process completed itself and I excitedly constructed the first working model that showed the changing of the Laws; and, demonstrated to several of my students the creation of the diatonic scale… and, ultimately, the actualization of the Universe itself. Needless to say, they became very quiet… “contemplating its possibilities;” and, very active… “applying its realities.” Perhaps, you will, too. So, let’s return to our investigations and discover “together,” the law-conformable results that flowed forth the moment the Diatonic Universe came into being.”


In the next podcast we will discuss HOW to make the same model that the Fellow in Texas used to create the Diatonic Universe, and what it meant. We may finally be able to see what Gurdjieff meant in his discourse, and thus how creation worked diatonically.

Thank you for listening, and, if you’d like to know more about the subjects and exercises we’ve been covering in these podcasts, including the book and guide that underpins all of this, and how we work with it, you can find us at The Dog Publishing, at the website The Dog Pub Dot Com. That’s T H E D O G P U B DOT COM

Hope you find it useful

Goodbye until next time.

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